David Ortiz in a Nutshell

[jacksonianmarch]

The old bastard is 14 for 27 with 2 bombs, 9RBI's and a 1.422OPS through 7 games this yr. Just to show how ridiculous his start is, he already has a 0.6WAR for a guy who plays no defense and WAR is based on an entire season. He is ridiculously on fire and I wonder if they gave him some supplements to get his heels and achilles back to normal. Re-signing him thus far has looked like a pretty smart move. For at least the first month, those who destroyed Cherington should be smoking his pole by now

[Station 13]

His 2012 season would been his top 5 had he not gotten injured.

[jung]

Even given his 2012 performance, achieved having trimmed down to what looked like his best condition in years, what he is doing this year is IMO, unheard off. As I posted elsewhere there is no category for something like this. Nobody keeps records around taking a few paltry AB's (18 of them) at AAA and coming up to face ML pitching at that point. But what Ortiz is doing is just plain ridiculous as he looks laughably comfortable at the plate regardless of what he says about his comfort level.

[User Name]

Yet there were some saying they should get rid of him because he's a "diva". LOL. I'll take a "diva" any day if it swings the stick like this.

[italstallianion]

I just hope that his resurrection gives him a shot at the hall of fame. He's doing his career numbers a huge favor.

 

I think "diva" describes Youkilis (and maybe Crawford) way better than Ortiz. Then there was "straight up *******" which describes Beckett. (And perhaps Lackey/Aceves)

[Spudboy]

It's still a small sample size. But I never bought into his demise a few years back when many people were say that he was done. The Achilles / heel / foot problems worries me. He has not forgotten how to play baseball. I hope that he keeps the weight off.

[jung]

Actually he has already put the weight back on. If you look at photos from last year to this, he is much bigger again this year. However we don't want him trying to scream around the bases thinking he is somehow streamlined with that thinner frame. We don't want that at all!

[a700hitter]

Actually he has already put the weight back on. If you look at photos from last year to this, he is much bigger again this year. However we don't want him trying to scream around the bases thinking he is somehow streamlined with that thinner frame. We don't want that at all!

I have noticed that the weight is back. I guess the inactivity from the leg didn't help. The extra weight can't help the leg problems. Hopefully, he goes back on a diet. I thought he lost the weight initially because his blood sugar was up.

[Youk Of The Nation]

The old bastard is 14 for 27 with 2 bombs, 9RBI's and a 1.422OPS through 7 games this yr. Just to show how ridiculous his start is, he already has a 0.6WAR for a guy who plays no defense and WAR is based on an entire season. He is ridiculously on fire and I wonder if they gave him some supplements to get his heels and achilles back to normal. Re-signing him thus far has looked like a pretty smart move. For at least the first month, those who destroyed Cherington should be smoking his pole by now

 

I am, as always, impressed with your ability to type coherently through tears of impotent rage.

[Thunder]

Ortiz is the most locked in I've seen in a while. He wants one last run into the playoffs before he retires.

[SoxSport]

Can't knock Papi. It's taken too long, but he has come back with a bang--to the relief of the management, who are paying him a fortune the next 2 years just to swing a bat.

[SoxSport]

I just hope that his resurrection gives him a shot at the hall of fame. He's doing his career numbers a huge favor.

 

I think "diva" describes Youkilis (and maybe Crawford) way better than Ortiz. Then there was "straight up *******" which describes Beckett. (And perhaps Lackey/Aceves)

 

A lot of guys in that organization dating back to the Championships felt entitled. From the players right up the line. Henry strikes me as a pretty lax guy--not much of an administrator, and the reins loosened considerably the last 4-5 years with predictable consequences.

[wetcamelfood]

Used to love him but he's a juicer, so don't want him here anymore

[User Name]

Thank God you're not running this franchise then.

[seabeachfred]

A lot of guys in that organization dating back to the Championships felt entitled. From the players right up the line. Henry strikes me as a pretty lax guy--not much of an administrator, and the reins loosened considerably the last 4-5 years with predictable consequences.

 

Somewhere around 2009 I think the Red Sox heirarchy lost its way with its emphasis on "sexy players", declining TV ratings, and "phantom" sellouts that they knew were bogus. If you notice this year Sox Sport, you haven't heard a peep out of Lucchino, Henry or anyone else high in the organization. They seem to have entrusted the power to Cherington and he seems to have found his form. Some of his moves have been terrific and he now has a manager who can work well with, and one who seems to have the affection and respect of the team. We may have finally found our way back.

 

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[SCM33]

The old bastard is 14 for 27 with 2 bombs, 9RBI's and a 1.422OPS through 7 games this yr. Just to show how ridiculous his start is, he already has a 0.6WAR for a guy who plays no defense and WAR is based on an entire season. He is ridiculously on fire and I wonder if they gave him some supplements to get his heels and achilles back to normal. Re-signing him thus far has looked like a pretty smart move. For at least the first month, those who destroyed Cherington should be smoking his pole by now

 

Yeah...."cherries" is such an idiot.

[jung]

We are going to be on pins and needles with the heels all year. I hope David does not get into many situations when he feels like he has to push it. Clearly when the heels really go on him it can put him on the shelf for awhile......and then there is the real career ender...the Achilles if that ever really goes.

 

The issue was never should the Sox sign him. The issues was always could he get two years anywhere else and given the situation with his heels and mostly the Achilles, he probably could not.

 

We have made some noise here about the Rangers possibly being serious about Ortiz. But they were showing no interest in Napoli for a contract he had any interest in signing. Ya' think they knew something? So just based on how they handled Napoli wrongly or rightly, I doubt they would have jumped on Ortiz. In fact, I think the Ryan turmoil makes it less likely the Rangers would have made a serious bid for Ortiz.

[BSN07]

Can't knock Papi. It's taken too long, but he has come back with a bang--to the relief of the management, who are paying him a fortune the next 2 years just to swing a bat.

 

He's paid similar to Lance Berkman Compared to top paid players around the league, he actually doesn't make a ton. He makes in 2 seasons what Hamilton, Pujols, and Arod make in 1 and he's probably out produced the 3 of them combined after he missed a month haha Ortiz deal might be one of the most friendly deals around.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Yeah...."cherries" is such an idiot.

 

dood. his name is ben da boob.

[wyo-sox]

dood. his name is ben da boob.

 

It's a chance that some may owe Ben an apology after this season.

[SCM33]

It's a chance that some may owe Ben an apology after this season.

 

Just a couple of people.

[iortiz]

I'm not sure who would be against Ortiz signing.

 

On the other hand, The context was that we needed money for another SP since we didn't want to go over the cap or seemed so, and we could use Ortiz money for that arm, thats all.

 

Hopefully everybody stays healthy/still performing this way and we do not need that extra arm.

[BSN07]

It's a chance that some may owe Ben an apology after this season.

 

It will never happen. That crowd would probably rather cut their beating heart from their chest's then admit Cherries is anything other then a boob in a 3 piece. It will be luck that gets the credit if the team proves to be a good one. You can bank on it.

[User Name]

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[SoxSport]

He's paid similar to Lance Berkman Compared to top paid players around the league, he actually doesn't make a ton. He makes in 2 seasons what Hamilton, Pujols, and Arod make in 1 and he's probably out produced the 3 of them combined after he missed a month haha Ortiz deal might be one of the most friendly deals around.

 

If that's the case, Lance is overpaid, too. I think he's playing 1B--at least part-time, and it's a 1 year deal. His knees could go at any time.

 

The Angels are stuck with a declining Pujols. Hamilton will probably untracked. They don't care-they have so much Fox TV money they are looking for ways to spend it--like the Dodgers.

 

The Yankees--watch them weasel out of ARod's ridiculous contract--as only the Yankees can do.

[SoxSport]

It will never happen. That crowd would probably rather cut their beating heart from their chest's then admit Cherries is anything other then a boob in a 3 piece. It will be luck that gets the credit if the team proves to be a good one. You can bank on it.

 

He gets credit for wrecking Bard, too. The real credit goes to Farrell and Nieves, who have turned the pitching around--so far. Farrell will be the next GM.

[Dojji]

He gets credit for wrecking Bard, too.

 

I disagree. Bard's first serious sign of decay happened before Cherington was GM.

 

My personal opinion is it doesn't matter if Bard was in the rotation or the bullpen in 2012, the damage was done by September of 2011.

[a700hitter]

But last place and the worst record since 1965 happened on Ben's watch.

[Dojji]

But last place and the worst record since 1965 happened on Ben's watch.

 

Happened in the first year of Ben's watch. A700, you ought to know just as well as I do that the current GM is only barely culpable for what happens in the first year when most of the roster are still guys the last guy picked. and that's when the entire ownership and upper management isn't looming over a rookie GM's shoulder second-guessing every move he makes.

 

I have no problem whatsoever writing Cherington a mulligan for 2012.

[mvp 78]

I disagree. Bard's first serious sign of decay happened before Cherington was GM.

 

My personal opinion is it doesn't matter if Bard was in the rotation or the bullpen in 2012, the damage was done by September of 2011.

 

Yes!