David Ortiz in a Nutshell

[SoxSport]

None of those higher ups ever gets blamed for anything. The manager takes the fall.

[italstallianion]

I remember when Varitek was getting divorced while on the Sox. That lasted a while I think.

[BSN07]

Unfortunately a lot of Baseball wives like to cash out before their meal ticket retires.

[Bellhorn04]

Unfortunately a lot of Baseball wives like to cash out before their meal ticket retires.

 

Wow. That is a cynical take on baseball wives.

[mvp 78]

Wow. That is a cynical take on baseball wives.

 

Cynical, sexist, it's really 6 on one half a dozen on the other.

[SoxSport]

I think 2012 was very clearly more on Epstein than on Cherrington, although one could very easily point to the fact that Cherrington was very influential in the decisions to trade for and sign Gonzalez, sign Crawford, and extend Beckett.

 

Then again, if we're going to put partial blame on Cherrington for those moves, we also have to place blame on Mike Hazen for any problems that you want to blame Cherrington for.

 

The Red Sox FO remains unchanged from the Epstein era. Just the money has been turned off--or closely controlled.Notice Epstein hasn't signed a single expensive FA in Chicago after two seasons--and this is a major TV market, behind NY and LA. Maybe he's learned his lesson--or his owner has.

 

Last year, there was no correlation between wins and payroll in MLB. Pure scatter, if you plotted the data. What it suggests is the salary system in MLB sucks. There is no correlation between reward and performance. I suspect the fault is with guaranteed long term contracts. The owners gave away too much to the players. And the money has escalated out of sight due to cable TV--courtesy of you and me and everybody else who watches cable TV. Sports takes about half our cable bill, and rising.

[SoxSport]

Unfortunately a lot of Baseball wives like to cash out before their meal ticket retires.

 

It's a good life. Similar to political wives. You just have to look the other way while the groupies, pretty staffers and media girls are gold-digging for your hubby--and hope that the kids will hold the family together.

[italstallianion]

It's true though, do you see what Jamie McCourt is doing? She's suing because apparently the $131M she got in divorce wasn't enough and that her husband lied about how much the franchise was worth and now that the big TV deal happened she wants more money.

[Bellhorn04]

It's a good life. Similar to political wives. You just have to look the other way while the groupies, pretty staffers and media girls are gold-digging for your hubby--and hope that the kids will hold the family together.

 

Depends what you call a good life I guess.

[mvp 78]

It's true though, do you see what Jamie McCourt is doing? She's suing because apparently the $131M she got in divorce wasn't enough and that her husband lied about how much the franchise was worth and now that the big TV deal happened she wants more money.

 

Seeing that she was a part owner (all his $$$ came from her side of the family too), she has the right to gripe about it. McCourt is a buffoon and deserves to be penniless.

[a700hitter]

Unfortunately a lot of Baseball wives like to cash out before their meal ticket retires.

Yikes, that is really cynical. I am admittedly cynical about baseball transactions, but this is some huge cynacism about life and male-female relationships.

 

Marriages break up for all sorts of reasons. Who the hell knows. I jsut hope it doesn't negatively affect his hitting.

[italstallianion]

Seeing that she was a part owner (all his $$$ came from her side of the family too), she has the right to gripe about it. McCourt is a buffoon and deserves to be penniless.

 

 

I guess my point is while she was part owner, she never really did any of the work. Even when she was an executive, he still did all the planning and financials I read. I forget the exact article but it was on yahoo.

 

My main point is that under any circumstances $131 million (or whatever the total was) should be enough to live the rest of your life, and if it isn't, then you have some serious problems.

 

I don't think that laying on your back and taking a couple of loads entitles women to that kind of money. I don't think Frank McCourt (or virtually anybody) deserves that much money either, but I especially don't think she deserves it.

 

I think there's an Italian politician that got divorced recently and his wife is getting like a million dollars a month in alimony. I hate the world sometimes.

[mvp 78]

So marriage boils down to just being a lay for the husband? I know it was just a flippant remark, but in the McCourt's case, Frank was dumb enough to pit her name on everything whether she did the work or not. Also, the "financials" of the Dodgers were a laughing stock as money was taken out of the Dodgers and used on their personal expenses. Can't really give him much credit for bilking the team like that.

 

I also know of plenty of cases where husbands s*** on their ex-wives and kids, not pay support and just leave them high and dry.

 

The world sucks. Marriage is harder than people think. I just can't feel sorry for Frank or some Italian who'll make mord money in a year than I will in my lifetime.

[italstallianion]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with your remarks on Frank, he deserves every bit of it and doesn't deserve to have that much money either.

 

The world is a crappy place and divorce tends to suck for both sides. I'm sure for every case of a dead beat dad that doesn't pay child support there's an instance of a woman getting child support money and spending it on herself.

 

Then again, to be perfectly honest, I don't really like how athletes/actors etc make exorbinant amounts of money compared to police officers/fire fighters/teachers/paramedics/soldiers etc but that's another debate.

 

My apologies for being on a soap box y'all. I guess I'm the most cynical of cynical asses.

[a700hitter]

So marriage boils down to just being a lay for the husband? I know it was just a flippant remark, but in the McCourt's case, Frank was dumb enough to pit her name on everything whether she did the work or not. Also, the "financials" of the Dodgers were a laughing stock as money was taken out of the Dodgers and used on their personal expenses. Can't really give him much credit for bilking the team like that.

 

I also know of plenty of cases where husbands s*** on their ex-wives and kids, not pay support and just leave them high and dry.

 

The world sucks. Marriage is harder than people think. I just can't feel sorry for Frank or some Italian who'll make mord money in a year than I will in my lifetime.

Keep your political nonsense out of this you slimy turd.

[mvp 78]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with your remarks on Frank, he deserves every bit of it and doesn't deserve to have that much money either.

 

The world is a crappy place and divorce tends to suck for both sides. I'm sure for every case of a dead beat dad that doesn't pay child support there's an instance of a woman getting child support money and spending it on herself.

 

Then again, to be perfectly honest, I don't really like how athletes/actors etc make exorbinant amounts of money compared to police officers/fire fighters/teachers/paramedics/soldiers etc but that's another debate.

 

My apologies for being on a soap box y'all. I guess I'm the most cynical of cynical asses.

 

There's nothing wrong with a good soapbox!

[BSN07]

Yikes, that is really cynical. I am admittedly cynical about baseball transactions, but this is some huge cynacism about life and male-female relationships.

 

Marriages break up for all sorts of reasons. Who the hell knows. I jsut hope it doesn't negatively affect his hitting.

 

I had no idea everyone was going to take me so seriously, it was meant to be a joke. There a couple big tv shows over here about athlete wives(prime time soaps crap), and it's kind of a running joke here about the awful s*** they do in the show. I probably should have thought about it an realized a lot of you might not get it haha

[VA Sox Fan]

I had no idea everyone was going to take me so seriously, it was meant to be a joke. There a couple big tv shows over here about athlete wives(prime time soaps crap), and it's kind of a running joke here about the awful s*** they do in the show. I probably should have thought about it an realized a lot of you might not get it haha

 

You sexist pig!

[BSN07]

You sexist pig!

 

Get in the kitchen and make me a pie woman!

[seabeachfred]

Keep your political nonsense out of this you slimy turd.

 

You know Ted, the guy may actually have a point. Marriage is hard work. The lady you walked down the aisle with 20, 30, 40 years ago is not the same person she was then, and neither are we. We change, they change and we have to grow with them and them with us. I once was laughed at by a friend when I told him the secret of a happy marriage was LUCK. I still believe a lot of that to be true.

 

In my familes, both my dad and mom had siblings that argued like holy hell as is the case us Dagos. Hell, my brother and I should have both been in divorce court years back, and here we are. My brother and his wife just celebrated their 43rd anniversary while Linda and I will reach that on August 1. Go figure.

 

As for Papi and his wife we don't really know when their marriage started to unravel. Did he cheat? Did she? Did they simply draw apart? All I can say is that the press and fans should butt out and let Papi and his wife worked out their problems without anyone butting in.

[a700hitter]

You know Ted, the guy may actually have a point. Marriage is hard work. The lady you walked down the aisle with 20, 30, 40 years ago is not the same person she was then, and neither are we. We change, they change and we have to grow with them and them with us. I once was laughed at by a friend when I told him the secret of a happy marriage was LUCK. I still believe a lot of that to be true.

 

In my familes, both my dad and mom had siblings that argued like holy hell as is the case us Dagos. Hell, my brother and I should have both been in divorce court years back, and here we are. My brother and his wife just celebrated their 43rd anniversary while Linda and I will reach that on August 1. Go figure.

 

As for Papi and his wife we don't really know when their marriage started to unravel. Did he cheat? Did she? Did they simply draw apart? All I can say is that the press and fans should butt out and let Papi and his wife worked out their problems without anyone butting in.

:lol: Fred, I was jut throwing some of MVP's nonsense back at him. That was the only point of my post.

[RedSoxNC84]

I am, as always, impressed with your ability to type coherently through tears of impotent rage.

 

I haven't laughed so hard in years. Hilarious.

[RedSoxNC84]

I like that Ben stood up and took responsibility. How much he was to blame is debatable. Now, that he is in charge, he is making some savy decisions, but I think we both agree that the Daniel Bard experiment sits at his doorstep.

 

Now we can't forget Melancon, Padilla, James Loney, Nick Punto, Brent Lillibridge, Aaron Cook, Marlon Byrd, etc.

[RedSoxNC84]

But back on topic:

 

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[kapsis21]

But back on topic:

 

:ortiz:

 

I like your avatar photo and mine