Anti-Fantasy League Draft and Discussion Thread

[Dojji]

Career OPS+

 

Butler 101

Upton 103

 

Congratulations, you win.

 

Who's proven what in the majors?

[WhiskeyBreath]

if you wanna make a team out of guys who dominated the minors but havent done s*** in the majors, you might as well make Phil Hughes your ace

 

haha

[BoSox21]

here's the diff...

 

Upton is my leadoff man and he gives me a tremendous OBP with great speed, I'm not even looking for him to slug all that much

 

Butler is one of your middle of the order power bats.....who hasn't shown a ton of power

[Dojji]

This started when I said Cust was a poor pick for a "make a team that will dominate like in 5 years" contest. Which he is, Cust will be 35 in 5 years and has a very good chance of going the way of Richie Sexson. Not sure exactly why you decided to go on the offensive on my Butler pick after that.

[TheKilo]

Sandoval is a tremendous pick.

[TheKilo]

RE: the Upton v. Butler debate - defense has to be taken into account.

[BoSox21]

Really?

 

Cust OPS: .804

Butler OPS .809

 

Not to mention that Butler is what, 23? And Cust at age 30 is going to keep pace with the kid over the next 5 years?

 

Butler is rounding into form nicely and is a big part of the reason KC is over .500 right now. He's going to be a freakin' monster.

 

there.

 

quite frankly, im not sure why you brought Upton in to the discussion.

 

RE: the Upton v. Butler debate - defense has to be taken into account.

 

srsly

[Dojji]

here's the diff...

 

Upton is my leadoff man and he gives me a tremendous OBP with great speed, I'm not even looking for him to slug all that much

 

Butler is one of your middle of the order power bats.....who hasn't shown a ton of power

 

Actually I'm getting no shortage of power from other sources right now between Drew, Granderson, Dukes, Napoli, and potentially from Gordon. I don't really need to bat Butler above 6th unless he shows he's worthy of it. I've got enough power from the premium positions that I don't need a ton from my first baseman.

[Dojji]

RE: the Upton v. Butler debate - defense has to be taken into account.

 

Yeah, which is why Upton was taken several rounds ahead of Butler. Doesn't change the fact that Bosox21 is at least a bit hypocritical here.

[BoSox21]

Doesn't change the fact that Bosox21 is at least a bit hypocritical here.

 

My point of contention is that Butler hasn't proven anything at the major league level and you're trying to point out my hypocrisy by questioning my BJ Upton pick, implying that Upton hasn't proven anything. Upton had a SICK 2007 season and he's been plagued by injuries the past 1 1/4 seasons. And in 2008, he stole 44 bases with a .383 OBP. So explain to me just how I'm being hypocritical.

[WhiskeyBreath]

Feliz is a great pick. Kid is a flame thrower that makes it look extremely easy.

[BoSox21]

considering his rationalization for this draft, I fully expected Imgran to take the Phranchise player

[Dojji]

Went with David Bush, not a flashy guy but a steady innings-eater with very good command who really hasn't quite had the excellent career-defining year but should make quite a solid #4 starter.

[Dojji]

considering his rationalization for this draft' date=' I fully expected Imgran to take the Phranchise player[/quote']

 

Please. I'll take a good high-potential guy without a ton of big league experience, but not someone who's spent their entire big league career proving themselves in the other direction.

[BoSox21]

finally something we agree on

[WhiskeyBreath]

Draft is really moving.

 

YH, thanks for picking early.

[Cocos Disciples]

Like the Feliz pick, he's awesome.

[TheKilo]

It's clear BSN07 is going for "Best rotation in 2013"

[Dojji]

Isn't that kind of the point? The only reason I'm not doing the same thing is philosophical -- I believe a largely veteran, inning-eating rotation is probably the best way to get a stable team.

[WhiskeyBreath]

haha yeah it seems that way.

 

Curious to see how his staff will look for this year.

[TheKilo]

Isn't that kind of the point? The only reason I'm not doing the same thing is philosophical -- I believe a largely veteran' date=' inning-eating rotation is probably the best way to get a stable team.[/quote']

 

The point is to build the best team over the next five years.

 

Good now, good five years from now.

[Dojji]

OKIC.

[WhiskeyBreath]

No idea who I'm taking next.

[BoSox21]

Imgran realizes the point of this whole thing in round 10. Nice.

[Dojji]

Ehh, I'm pretty well set to be competitive now. I've got a lot of innings out of my rotation and a decent lineup. Butler is really my only drastic reach pick.

[Dipre]

Any thoughts on Ludwick?

 

He's always been a good hitter, but he was derailed by injuries, he's not that old, so he'll be in his prime a couple more years.

[Keeper]

Dojji, I think you meant Greinke instead of Kazmir in the other thread.

[BSN07]

Ya my rotation is young and more for the future. But considering what is left out there, I think the younger guys have more value at this point.

[TheKilo]

Ya my rotation is young and more for the future. But considering what is left out there' date=' I think the younger guys have more value at this point.[/quote']

 

When those guys start to win major league games I might agree.

[TheKilo]

For DipreG - hitting McCann 8th is an interesting choice - rationale?