Red Sox Getting Selective On A Potential Franklin Arias Trade

[mvp 78]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

He's also a switch hitter.

I was not very high on him, but he might help just enough.

He's a better hitter than either Wong or Narvaez. He is a plus defender. 

He had 91 wRC+ in a "down" season last year. 

[UtahSox]

2 minutes ago, SoxPhan said:

I would consider Adley for prospects outside our top 5. Retain Narvy and Wong as to not disrupt our pitching. Ease Rutschman back as DH and let him learn the staff over time. Offseason we can trade the odd man out when more teams may be looking for a C. 

Your plan that seems more logical less emotional…….. orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I offer an alternative. Let’s ship Narvaez to the moon….,.. Play Adley now go get George springer DH LFG. I can’t handle the automatic out in the lineup.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, SoxPhan said:

He hits lefties and righties both well, and mashes at Fenway. 

Only a career 697 OPS at Fenway. He had a 721 OPS overall vs the Sox. 

[SoxPhan]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Both Narvaez and Wong have options. Just send one to WOO. Having 3 catchers on the roster doesn't work well. 

That's why I would consider him a DH to start. Ease him into learning the staff. If and when he shows he's ready to take over behind the plate, we can send someone down.

Same if we got Jeffers.  
 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Why is the Rutschman chatter on the Arias thread? I don't approve of them being swapped for each other unless Gunnar is thrown in.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Why is the Rutschman chatter on the Arias thread? I don't approve of them being swapped for each other unless Gunnar is thrown in.

There wasn't a trade deadline thread. When do posts every stay on topic? 

[moonslav59]

CLE gets Adell.

M's get T Ward.

[SoxPhan]

10 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Only a career 697 OPS at Fenway. He had a 721 OPS overall vs the Sox. 

Where are you seeing that? Googling George Springer OPS at Fenway says he has a career .940 OPS. But I don't really trust AI searches, so if you have a more reliable source I'm open to being proven wrong. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

There wasn't a trade deadline thread. When do posts every stay on topic? 

Ok, pivoting.

If Rutschman is really out with a wrist injury, once the trade is consummated the Sox staff who play doctors at Fenway will determine he has a torn thumb ligament from hitching to Boston in the rain.

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, SoxPhan said:

Where are you seeing that? Googling George Springer OPS at Fenway says he has a career .940 OPS. But I don't really trust AI searches, so if you have a more reliable source I'm open to being proven wrong. 

Springer: B-R has .940 career at Fenway (1.054 in 2026)

Rutschman: .697 career at Fenway (.819 in 2026)

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, SoxPhan said:

Where are you seeing that? Googling George Springer OPS at Fenway says he has a career .940 OPS. But I don't really trust AI searches, so if you have a more reliable source I'm open to being proven wrong. 

Sorry, I have Adley on the brain. I gave you Adley's splits. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Just now, mvp 78 said:

Sorry, I have Adley on the brain. I gave you Adley's splits. 

Addled. Eat more walnuts in your oatmeal.

[SoxPhan]

15 minutes ago, UtahSox said:

Your plan that seems more logical less emotional…….. orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I offer an alternative. Let’s ship Narvaez to the moon….,.. Play Adley now go get George springer DH LFG. I can’t handle the automatic out in the lineup.

Yes, Front offices generally tend to make decisions based on logic over emotion. Iol
I can handle an "automatic out" if that player brings a lot to the table outside hitting, and more importantly, we are winning. 

[JoeBrady]

53 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Agreed. DMay as your fall back was lame, although he's doing okay, now.

I'm not sure I agree with the logic.  His performance this year means he was likely a good target last year, even if he under-performed.  He started off with three very good performances.  No way of proving it, but I'd bet trade works out well the majority of the time.

[SoxPhan]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

B-R has .940 career at Fenway (1.054 in 2026)

Thank you for confirming that. Not sure what the other was looking at.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I'm not sure I agree with the logic.  His performance this year means he was likely a good target last year, even if he under-performed.  He started off with three very good performances.  No way of proving it, but I'd bet trade works out well the majority of the time.

I'm not crazy, I'm just a little BagUNwell.

[SoxPhan]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Sorry, I have Adley on the brain. I gave you Adley's splits. 

Ahh, ok, that makes more sense. 

[Hugh2]

39 minutes ago, SoxPhan said:

I would consider Adley for prospects outside our top 5. Retain Narvy and Wong as to not disrupt our pitching. Ease Rutschman back as DH and let him learn the staff over time. Offseason we can trade the odd man out when more teams may be looking for a C. 

You're probably giving up two guys in the 5-10 range. 

[SoxPhan]

5 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

You're probably giving up two guys in the 5-10 range. 

I could live with that. 

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Doubt which part? Do you think he did a great job with the Joe Ryan stuff last deadline? Instead of getting players to help down the stretch, he just ended up with Dustin Maye and found himself getting jerked around by the Twins. He was unable to reach out to other teams because of his inexperience. Maybe he'll do better this year. 

Ryan had a 4.89/5.01 in August & September last year.  So I am really happy we didn't trade top-tier talent to get him.

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Bad defensive team just got worse.

I'm waiting to hear their new defensive alignment.  Rumor has it that that Stott goes to 3B, Bohm goes to 1B, and Harper goes to RF.  4 possible defensive downgrades in one trade.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

If Brez botched the clock, I'm kinda glad he did.

After the off-season, when he botched getting Contreras over Alonso, and Durbin over Bregman, FG says that Breslow is the all time leader in botched trades that were out perfectly.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Maybe Primer/Witherspoon for Adley?

slight overpay, which is what you need for MLB player for prospects. 

I could do that.  I wouldn't disrupt the team chemistry by adding a catcher, but Rutschman has great tools.  He might be the best all-around catcher between him, Goodman, and Langeliers.  Some injury concerns, but I wouldn't be surprised if emerged to be the AS catcher he was projected to be.

[SoxPhan]

11 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I'm waiting to hear their new defensive alignment.  Rumor has it that that Stott goes to 3B, Bohm goes to 1B, and Harper goes to RF.  4 possible defensive downgrades in one trade.

Arraez to 1st, Harper to RF

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I always want my catcher to actually be able to catch (unlike Wong). I'd want them to work out an extension with him too. 

I was going to add that to my post, but the extra 6 words seemed like too much work.  $20M*4 takes him thru age 33.

[JoeBrady]

58 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

There wasn't a trade deadline thread. When do posts every stay on topic? 

I thought this was the Devers thread.

[SoxPhan]

1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

I thought this was the Devers thread.

I thought this was still Lawnboy...



Curious if anyone will get this...

[JoeBrady]

12 minutes ago, SoxPhan said:

Arraez to 1st, Harper to RF

Betterer, but at least some downside risk on Harper's arm.

[notin]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Both Narvaez and Wong have options. Just send one to WOO. Having 3 catchers on the roster doesn't work well. 

I would assume Wong is heading to Baltimore.  Lower trade value increases the returning prospect capital to Baltimore.  And wuth Basallo on the IL, Theyre going to need a catcher to prevent their pitchers from firing everything into the wall behind home plate…

[moonslav59]

2 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

I'm not sure I agree with the logic.  His performance this year means he was likely a good target last year, even if he under-performed.  He started off with three very good performances.  No way of proving it, but I'd bet trade works out well the majority of the time.

Yes, I was making that point about D May maybe not being all that bad- he just whiffed with us over 1-2 months, but seriously, he was a big step below Ryan, and the two packages show that.