Blue Jays (Scherzer) vs Red Sox (Bennett): 6/17/26, 6:45pm

[Tedballgame]

I am not wasting any more time watching these losers thats for sure. Fire Breslow.

[FredLynn]

35 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I like the idea of the Sox being early sellers. Who of the everyday players would you consider untouchable?

I can only think of Rafaela and maybe Abreu.

I’d trade Rafaela now while his stock is high. Crochet, Anthony….that’s pretty much it. Trade the rest for a bag of golf balls. 

[Tedballgame]

3 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I’d trade Rafaela now while his stock is high. Crochet, Anthony….that’s pretty much it. Trade the rest for a bag of golf balls. 

 

3 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I’d trade Rafaela now while his stock is high. Crochet, Anthony….that’s pretty much it. Trade the rest for a bag of golf balls. 

Only players I don't trade from current roster are Crochet, Tolle, Early, Bennett, Ranger, Anthony and Cedanne.

[Tedballgame]

Kristian Campbell down to .216 for Worcester. Whiff on that contract.

[notin]

Chapman, Gray, IKF, Weissert, Coulombe, Kahnle, Kelly, Slaten, Guerrero, and Watson should be the focus.  Open to Duran but he’s not exactly making himself marketable.

But dump the bullpen.  Relievers move easily in July.

[notin]

33 minutes ago, Tedballgame said:

Kristian Campbell down to .216 for Worcester. Whiff on that contract.

Depends.  Is he actively working on things or just playing the game?

[Old Red]

7 hours ago, notin said:

Depends.  Is he actively working on things or just playing the game?

Huh? He’s working on getting K’S. Doing it quite well too. He’s closer to going back to Portland than he his coming back to Boston.🙈

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

8 hours ago, notin said:

Chapman, Gray, IKF, Weissert, Coulombe, Kahnle, Kelly, Slaten, Guerrero, and Watson should be the focus.  Open to Duran but he’s not exactly making himself marketable.

But dump the bullpen.  Relievers move easily in July.

Yep. Said the same thing yesterday The problem is it's doubtful Breslow is getting back what he really needs in a firesale: good wood that keeps the fire burning... 

... unless someone overpays for Chapman, who could be the one guy -- the gem of the deadline -- who may define the fate of Brez. 

All the rest of those names, including Gray and his contract, won't return much more than a similar list of names from the prospect ranks.

[mvp 78]

10 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Trade the rest for a bag of golf balls. 

Now that's a pretty bad trade TBH.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

10 hours ago, FredLynn said:

I’d trade Rafaela now while his stock is high. Crochet, Anthony….that’s pretty much it. Trade the rest for a bag of golf balls. 

Shhhh... a golfer is about to hit a ball that isn't moving on the ground right in front of him ... shhhhhhhhh.

[notin]

4 hours ago, Old Red said:

Huh? He’s working on getting K’S. Doing it quite well too. He’s closer to going back to Portland than he his coming back to Boston.🙈

Thank you for your insider input, even though you clearly didn’t understand the question…

[notin]

1 hour ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Yep. Said the same thing yesterday The problem is it's doubtful Breslow is getting back what he really needs in a firesale: good wood that keeps the fire burning... 

... unless someone overpays for Chapman, who could be the one guy -- the gem of the deadline -- who may define the fate of Brez. 

All the rest of those names, including Gray and his contract, won't return much more than a similar list of names from the prospect ranks.

You think Chapman isn’t going to be dealt for similar names from prospect ranks?

To me thr most interesting Sox reliever is Tyron Guerrero.  He’s been flat out amazing, granted for only 10 IP….

[notin]

11 hours ago, FredLynn said:

I’d trade Rafaela now while his stock is high. Crochet, Anthony….that’s pretty much it. Trade the rest for a bag of golf balls. 

And that is why your not in charge.

The only “sell high” candidate on the Sox is Tyron Guerrero.  Why would someone who has no faith in Breslow making good trades suggest trading away good, controlled players?  It seems you want this team to be bad.  I mean it is obvious since you blatantly cheer for them to lose…

[notin]

11 hours ago, Tedballgame said:

 

Only players I don't trade from current roster are Crochet, Tolle, Early, Bennett, Ranger, Anthony and Cedanne.

Abreu?

[mvp 78]

14 minutes ago, notin said:

You think Chapman isn’t going to be dealt for similar names from prospect ranks?

To me thr most interesting Sox reliever is Tyron Guerrero.  He’s been flat out amazing, granted for only 10 IP….

And you wanted to keep him in AAA...

[notin]

32 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

And you wanted to keep him in AAA...

Honestly, I really didn’t even want him in AAA either..  

So far it’s 10 IP, but I’m glad he’s making me wrong…

[FredLynn]

2 hours ago, notin said:

And that is why your not in charge.

The only “sell high” candidate on the Sox is Tyron Guerrero.  Why would someone who has no faith in Breslow making good trades suggest trading away good, controlled players?  It seems you want this team to be bad.  I mean it is obvious since you blatantly cheer for them to lose…

I ALWAYS want what is best for the team. This year that means losing as many games as possible to improve our draft position. Of course I have no faith in BresLOW. He is incompetent. I could almost certainly do a better job. Maybe you could too. So the first step is showing him the door. THEN doing what is best for the team, and that includes trading Rafaela while his stock is high....because by the end of the year, just like last year, he will get worn down and his value will be far less. This is the best course for the team right now because right now they are full of bums.

[FredLynn]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Now that's a pretty bad trade TBH.

Yeah....I know. The golf balls are probably worth a lot more.

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I ALWAYS want what is best for the team. This year that means losing as many games as possible to improve our draft position. Of course I have no faith in BresLOW. He is incompetent. I could almost certainly do a better job. Maybe you could too. So the first step is showing him the door. THEN doing what is best for the team, and that includes trading Rafaela while his stock is high....because by the end of the year, just like last year, he will get worn down and his value will be far less. This is the best course for the team right now because right now they are full of bums.

The MLB draft is a crapshoot. The only good part about getting a higher position is the additional pool $ that comes with it. 

[FredLynn]

59 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The MLB draft is a crapshoot. The only good part about getting a higher position is the additional pool $ that comes with it. 

So you are claiming that the talent level in the draft is totally unassociated with the position a team has in the draft.

I think you know better than that. While there may not be much difference between #6 and #10 we both know that the #1 or #2 is more likely to be more talented than #20. So lets shoot for getting the worst record in baseball. We are already well on our way at #6.

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

So you are claiming that the talent level in the draft is totally unassociated with the position a team has in the draft.

I think you know better than that. While there may not be much difference between #6 and #10 we both know that the #1 or #2 is more likely to be more talented than #20. So lets shoot for getting the worst record in baseball. We are already well on our way at #6.

Red Sox aren't getting to #20. I'm just saying there aren't many benefits to tanking from where they are to tanking to a higher pick other than the larger draft pool. The picks themselves don't pan out the way NBA and NFL high ranking picks typically do. 

[FredLynn]

4 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Red Sox aren't getting to #20. I'm just saying there aren't many benefits to tanking from where they are to tanking to a higher pick other than the larger draft pool. The picks themselves don't pan out the way NBA and NFL high ranking picks typically do. 

The chances are that the higher the pick the more talented the player will be. Not always, but I would rather take my chances with the #1 pick....or the #2 pick than the #10 pick. This season was lost almost before it began so its time to plan for the future and admit that the team is now too full of bums to do anything for a few years. One thing that would help is losing as many games as possible from now on....you know, TANKING. Thats the best thing for the team right now. So............LOSE BABY LOSE!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

4 hours ago, notin said:

You think Chapman isn’t going to be dealt for similar names from prospect ranks?

Of course he'll net minor leaguers, but he's our best chip to get prospects who don't have "Pitcher" listed next to their names.

If I have any say, I'm holding the Chapman auction until the last possible second for the best available BAT, preferably one that can reach green seats in fair territory.

[FredLynn]

Another loss!

yeah!

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