Boston Red Sox 2026 Win Total

[mvp 78]

16 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

They also signed Durbin and Gasper, both IF-and Contreras. Durbin, Gasper, and IKF aren’t what the team needed. 

They traded for Durbin and grabbed Gasper off waivers. Gasper is probably just going to sit in WOO or get DFA'd. IDK why him getting picked up bothers you in the slightest. It doesn't prevent other moves. They need guys that can catch in ST. He'll be fine hanging out in WOO and is a good clubhouse guy. Gasper was never a solution to any BOS problem. Not sure why you have brought him up multiple times. 

[moonslav59]

20 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I think we might be slightly better, not moderately better. Maybe a game or two better. The Yankees got better because Cole is back. The Jays made a couple of major signings and the O’s are much better, likely better than the FLOPS.

But hey! We are probably better than the low budget Rays! That’s something, right?

The Jays added a questionable Cease and Okamoto. Ponce and Taylor Rodgers were nice complementary moves. I'm not sure this is better than Suarez, Contreras, Gray, Durbin, Kiner-Falefa & Oviedo. Do you?

The Jays lost Bichette & Bassitt- maybe that equals our losses of Gio & Bergman, but we also lost Buehler, who when combined with no 2025 Houck is an addition by subtraction. The Jays had great luck with health in 2025, but are already looking at Bieber and Santander starting the season on the IL.

You mention a "couple gig singings," but do you honestly think they improved?

Yes, a return by Cole could be a big boost to the Yanks, but Rodon, Cole and Schmidt start the season on the IL. The Yanks basically stayed the same as 2025 and need Cole to be a plus. They were old in 2025 and are one year older in 2026. While I'm not trying to equate the return of Crawford, Sandoval & Casas to the Sox as being the same as Cole returning to the Yanks, one can easily see both as being close to the same gains.

The Yanks have a better offense. Their rotation and pen are worse. Our defense might now be better than theirs. IMO, we made more gains than Cole to the Yanks.

The O's are hard to judge. If one thinks they under performed in 2025, then yes, their adds could be enough to pass us. I just look at their pitching and think not.

[FredLynn]

39 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

They traded for Durbin and grabbed Gasper off waivers. Gasper is probably just going to sit in WOO or get DFA'd. IDK why him getting picked up bothers you in the slightest. It doesn't prevent other moves. They need guys that can catch in ST. He'll be fine hanging out in WOO and is a good clubhouse guy. Gasper was never a solution to any BOS problem. Not sure why you have brought him up multiple times. 

Getting the dregs we got doesn’t bother me. Not getting the talent we needed does bother me.

[vegasbob]

The right answer to the poll is 91 wins , better than 2025 but certainly not a dominating team .   

The 2025 team lost a starting pitcher f(Crawford) rom the get go, a second  ( Houck) and its 1Bman /alleged big bat early . Bregman missed a lot of mid season and stretch games Heck, it took Anthony a whole week to start hitting, then Mayer went missing.   

This team will be in great condition and avoid season wrecking injuries .

[moonslav59]

19 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Getting the dregs we got doesn’t bother me. Not getting the talent we needed does bother me.

Suarez, Contreras and Gray are not dregs. The bigger problem was getting 2 pitchers and not 2 infielders with one being better than Durbin + I K-F.

Had it been Alonso + Durbin/ I-K-F, that would be different.

[JoeBrady]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

If they sign Schwarber instead of Suarez and make no other corresponding moves to this roster, it's a very terrible roster (Casas AND Masa AND Schwarber AND Duran all playing DH?). 

I believe that Contreras will be better than Alonso over the next 2 seasons. 

I don't consider it particularly close.  Schwarber + Alonso likely won't be close to the WAR added by Contreras + Durbin + Suarez + Gray.

[mvp 78]

3 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I don't consider it particularly close.  Schwarber + Alonso likely won't be close to the WAR added by Contreras + Durbin + Suarez + Gray.

But what if they added Schwarber, Alonso, Durbin, Suarez and Gray? 🧐

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, notin said:

The issue is you’re believing all the negative hype about the offense and thinking it will be among the worst in MLB.  Barring injuries, it won’t. And the reality of needing superstar talent to carry an offense is not true.  The Brewers scored the third most runs in MLB last year, and they did it without a single starter posting an .800 OPS.

And they did it teams that had Alonso and Schwarber in their star-laden lineups actually scored fewer runs than the Brewers and the Red Sox…

 

I've already provided Fred with the numbers.  They should be an above-average scoring team.  I have them at 102.4 wRC+.

[notin]

16 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

But what if they added Schwarber, Alonso, Durbin, Suarez and Gray? 🧐

And Judge and Trout and Betts and Skubal and  Freeman

 

But cheap ass Breslow went out and got Alex Siegler and Alec Gamboa instead!!!

[mvp 78]

Just now, notin said:

And Judge and Trout and Betts and Skubal and  Freeman

 

But cheap ass Breslow cdwent out and got Alex Siegler and Alec Gamboa instead!!!

Vinny Capra? Matt Thaiss? I know some posters on here can't stop talking about the second coming of Brendan Rodgers!

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Suarez, Contreras and Gray are not dregs. The bigger problem was getting 2 pitchers and not 2 infielders with one being better than Durbin + I K-F.

Had it been Alonso + Durbin/ I-K-F, that would be different.

Bingo

[FredLynn]

38 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

But what if they added Schwarber, Alonso, Durbin, Suarez and Gray? 🧐

Schwarber or Alonso plus Suarez AND Gray was the proper way to create a competitive team. 

[FredLynn]

39 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I've already provided Fred with the numbers.  They should be an above-average scoring team.  I have them at 102.4 wRC+.

Above average isn’t good enough to compete for a ring. Top five is. Think we will be top five? Top 10?

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Schwarber or Alonso plus Suarez AND Gray was the proper way to create a competitive team. 

I'd still prefer a 2B/3Bman over a second SP'er.

[FredLynn]

7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I'd still prefer a 2B/3Bman over a second SP'er.

That works too. Getting a very good 2B without Gray but with Schwarber or Alonso + Suarez would put us in a good position. But Henry wouldn’t pay for a competitive team. Hey-the Henry’s gotta eat too, right?

[JoeBrady]

51 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Above average isn’t good enough to compete for a ring. Top five is. Think we will be top five? Top 10?

12th

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, FredLynn said:

That works too. Getting a very good 2B without Gray but with Schwarber or Alonso + Suarez would put us in a good position. But Henry wouldn’t pay for a competitive team. Hey-the Henry’s gotta eat too, right?

So, basically, if we just swapped Contreras (2.2 projected fWAR)  & Kiner-Falefa (0.1 proj WAR) for Alonso (3.6 projection) we'd go from 4th plays to WS contender. (Keep Suarez, Gray & Durbin)

[harmony]

6 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

That was the old format.

In 2021 the Toronto Blue Jays missed the postseason despite winning 91 games in the regular season.

The 2021 Seattle Mariners, with 90 wins, would have missed the postseason under the current format.

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, harmony said:

In 2021 the Toronto Blue Jays missed the postseason despite winning 91 games in the regular season.

The 2021 Seattle Mariners, with 90 wins, would have missed the postseason under the current format.

We know. I posted every season since they started the WC format.

The format changed starting in 2022. That is the time frame we were talking about whereby no 90 win (or 88 win) team missed the playoffs. None. Nada. Never happened.

The last team in won between 83 and 88 games in the 8 samples. (4 in AL and 4 in NL.)

[harmony]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

We know. I posted every season since they started the WC format.

The format changed starting in 2022. That is the time frame we were talking about whereby no 90 win (or 88 win) team missed the playoffs. None. Nada. Never happened.

The last team in won between 83 and 88 games in the 8 samples. (4 in AL and 4 in NL.)

The 2023 Seattle Mariners missed the postseason despite winning 88 games in the regular season.

[notin]

4 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Getting the dregs we got doesn’t bother me. Not getting the talent we needed does bother me.

Then why were you bringing up Gasper at all?

[notin]

1 minute ago, harmony said:

The 2023 Seattle Mariners missed the postseason despite winning 88 games in the regular season.

Nobody counts the Mariners…

[harmony]

22 minutes ago, notin said:

Nobody counts the Mariners…

Ain't it the truth.

For three straight seasons the Seattle Mariners won more regular season games than the National League champions, meaning the Mariners drafted behind reigning NL champs Atlanta Braves in 2022, Philadelphia Phillies in 2023 and Arizona Diamondbacks in 2024.

[moonslav59]

54 minutes ago, harmony said:

The 2023 Seattle Mariners missed the postseason despite winning 88 games in the regular season.

Okay. Somehow I missed that time. Yes, the last team in won 89.

So, it's not zero teams with 88 wins, it's one out of 8 samples, where an 88 win team lost out on making the playoffs.

[moonslav59]

44 minutes ago, harmony said:

Ain't it the truth.

For three straight seasons the Seattle Mariners won more regular season games than the National League champions, meaning the Mariners drafted behind reigning NL champs Atlanta Braves in 2022, Philadelphia Phillies in 2023 and Arizona Diamondbacks in 2024.

Hey, join the club. The Sox wnet decades without ever being considered serious contenders.

Talk abut hard times: no team ever missed the playoffs ny a half game, except the Sox (the 1972 strike shortened season)

The Sox missed the playoffs while winning...

97 in '77

99 in '78

91 in '79

93 in '02

89 in '10

90 in '11

 

[FredLynn]

2 hours ago, notin said:

Then why were you bringing up Gasper at all?

You missed the point. It’s not who we got that bothers me. It’s that we got dregs instead of talented players. The dregs now occupy a roster spot that a much better player should occupy.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, FredLynn said:

You missed the point. It’s not who we got that bothers me. It’s that we got dregs instead of talented players. The dregs now occupy a roster spot that a much better player should occupy.

We didn't choose Gasper over Alonso. We chose Contreras. Gasper would still be here.

[FredLynn]

24 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

We didn't choose Gasper over Alonso. We chose Contreras. Gasper would still be here.

Contreras was chosen because he was cheaper than Alonso. I have no problem with getting the backup players. I have a problem with not getting front line players ahead of them solely because Henry isn’t committed to winning. It’s the modus operandi for this ownership group-settling for send line players when better players are available who could make us genuine contenders. Henry is a billionaire. He can’t even use a reasonable percentage of team revenue to improve results. It’s disgusting.

[moonslav59]

34 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Contreras was chosen because he was cheaper than Alonso. I have no problem with getting the backup players. I have a problem with not getting front line players ahead of them solely because Henry isn’t committed to winning. It’s the modus operandi for this ownership group-settling for send line players when better players are available who could make us genuine contenders. Henry is a billionaire. He can’t even use a reasonable percentage of team revenue to improve results. It’s disgusting.

Back to square one, again.

You did mention the back up player, Gasper, like he mattered.

You mentioned had we gotten Alonso, you'd be fine, and that it wouldn't have cost any more money, had he just not spent on X, Y or Z. So, then it wasn't the spending amount, it was spending on the wrong guys.

You are all over the map, and end up at the same place- your rock- the spending to revenue ranking from 2 years ago,

You do realize 30 owners could spend nearly every penny of their revenue, and someone would be ranked 30th.

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Back to square one, again.

You did mention the back up player, Gasper, like he mattered.

You mentioned had we gotten Alonso, you'd be fine, and that it wouldn't have cost any more money, had he just not spent on X, Y or Z. So, then it wasn't the spending amount, it was spending on the wrong guys.

You are all over the map, and end up at the same place- your rock- the spending to revenue ranking from 2 years ago,

You do realize 30 owners could spend nearly every penny of their revenue, and someone would be ranked 30th.

Your criticisms have no weight because you have admitted many times that our cheapskate owner should be spending more. 
As in signing talented FAs like Alonso or Schwarber. When was the last time Henry opened his wallet and agreed to sign a high priced FA? You know-top talent. 
Thats my point.