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Boston Red Sox outfielder Jarren Duran is sure to be one of the most discussed players this offseason as beat writers, reporters, and contributors stoke the hot stove.

Despite avoiding arbitration and agreeing to a one-year deal yesterday, Jon Morosi of MLB Network speculated that Boston Duran could be traded to the Detroit Tigers this offseason. On an episode of Hot Stove, Morosi predicted Duran "would be a great fit with the Detroit Tigers … Do not be surprised if Jarren Duran is wearing the old English D by opening day." It's important to re-emphasize that this is just speculation and not anything supported by sources from within either organization.

Duran, who is controllable through 2028, has been a polarizing figure throughout his career. From multiple controversial comments to up-and-down performances, the 29-year-old has been the subject of trade rumors in the past, and those rumors may continue this offseason. In 2025, he carried an OPS of .774 with 16 home runs and 24 stolen bases across 696 plate appearances.

Do you think the Red Sox should move Duran before Opening Day 2025? Join the conversation in the comments!


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Duran for Skubal!! Makes sense for both teams!

Except Detroit.  It really makes very little sense for them…

 

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15 minutes ago, notin said:

Duran for Skubal!! Makes sense for both teams!

Except Detroit.  It really makes very little sense for them…

 

BTV says giving up duran for skubal is an overpay. Not to say imply im saying that.

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7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

BTV says giving up duran for skubal is an overpay. Not to say imply im saying that.

One of the old trade taboos was never give up a regular position player for a pitcher. I don't adhere to the argument that a starting pitcher facing 700 batters equates to a hitter with 700 at bats...

... mainly because the bottom third of most teams' orders are weak from the first pitch of the game; meanwhile, hitters always face the best rotation each club can assemble, plus bullpens where nowadays the majority of relievers throw 100 mph with a change of pace all year (when an arm burns out, they just call up another from the farm).

Skubal is as good as it gets once a week retiring the decent top six batters in every order, but a guy like Duran who posts every game can help him and his rotation mates win all week with the bat, on the bases and in the field.

I'm not arguing with WAR, which is only one measure of value, but it's can't be any closer than in last year's AL MVP voting: Skubal 7th, Duran 8th.

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I wouldn't trade Duran for Skubal without an extension.  We can get other pitchers with Duran, who will be worse, but with more control.

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2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

It's 2 years of Duran for one of Skubal.

Pretty close to fair, but is 2 years of Lodolo or Ryan better?

3 years, no?

Regardless, Detroit wouldnt take it in a million years.

I'd give up a lot for Skubal if we can get an extension with it. If not (and with where our luxury tax is, I don't see it), go grab Ryan instead.

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6 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

It's 2 years of Duran for one of Skubal.

Pretty close to fair, but is 2 years of Lodolo or Ryan better?

Nooooo, I do this trade if I can extend Skubal. 
you'd have to overpay for him so it would take more than Duran.  

if you had Crochet/Skubal at the top of your rotation you could put whoever else 3-5.  That rotation is going to shove and makes you an automatic World Series contender
 

 

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10 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

I wouldn't trade Duran for Skubal without an extension.  We can get other pitchers with Duran, who will be worse, but with more control.

Fairly certain Detroit can’t envision the trade, period.  It makes zero sense for them to trade for Duran to compete while trading away the pitcher that makes them competitive…

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20 minutes ago, notin said:

Fairly certain Detroit can’t envision the trade, period.  It makes zero sense for them to trade for Duran to compete while trading away the pitcher that makes them competitive…

And what happens to Detroit in 2027  once the Mets sign skubal to a 650 million dollar contract after the 2026 season??  
 

or do you try to get the best package for skubal now or at the July 2026 trade deadline????

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3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

Nooooo, I do this trade if I can extend Skubal. 
you'd have to overpay for him so it would take more than Duran.  

if you had Crochet/Skubal at the top of your rotation you could put whoever else 3-5.  That rotation is going to shove and makes you an automatic World Series contender

Not if you can't hit home runs. Because that's the main way successful teams win close pitchers' duels in the postseason.

We know the Red Sox can't play small ball, because they don't even have enough contact bats that can put the ball in play and hit behind baserunners. And we know they can't bunt, either.

If they're just going to keep swinging for the fences, then we need a few more guys that can reach them...

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53 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

And what happens to Detroit in 2027  once the Mets sign skubal to a 650 million dollar contract after the 2026 season??  
 

or do you try to get the best package for skubal now or at the July 2026 trade deadline????

Absolutely an option.  But why would that package be built  Duran, 3 years from free agency himself?

 

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32 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Not if you can't hit home runs. Because that's the main way successful teams win close pitchers' duels in the postseason.

We know the Red Sox can't play small ball, because they don't even have enough contact bats that can put the ball in play and hit behind baserunners. And we know they can't bunt, either.

If they're just going to keep swinging for the fences, then we need a few more guys that can reach them...

Ok….but roster building isn’t always a zero sum game.  Trading and signing Skubal doesn’t exclude you from getting better elsewhere.

If you have a legit chance at getting the best pitcher in baseball you take a swing.  

 

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I don’t care what BTV says it’s going to take more than Duran to get Skubal.  
 

perhaps Duran/Early/Arias gets it done.

high price, and not one I do without knowing we can extend him.  But if you can, you do that.

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10 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I don’t care what BTV says it’s going to take more than Duran to get Skubal.  
 

perhaps Duran/Early/Arias gets it done.

high price, and not one I do without knowing we can extend him.  But if you can, you do that.

I doubt JH cares what BTV says either, but how wide he has to open his checkbook. No matter what happens to Skubal this year, which most likely he will remain in Detroit, and after that he will wade into the FA pool where he will come out a very rich man from one of the big spenders, which the Red Sox are not. To think Skubal has any kind of chance to end up in a Red Sox uniform.🙈

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21 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I don’t care what BTV says it’s going to take more than Duran to get Skubal.  
 

perhaps Duran/Early/Arias gets it done.

high price, and not one I do without knowing we can extend him.  But if you can, you do that.

What BTV doesn’t say is DURAN WILL NOT BE IN THAT DEAL AT ALL.  Why would Detroit want him if they are running up the white flag by dealing Skubal?  Campbell makes more sense than Duran at that point, and we don’t even know if Detroit likes Campbell.

Skubal has one year left. That is a huge factor. Especially since he has reportedly been reluctant with extension talks….

 

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52 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

I don’t care what BTV says it’s going to take more than Duran to get Skubal.  
 

perhaps Duran/Early/Arias gets it done.

high price, and not one I do without knowing we can extend him.  But if you can, you do that.

BTV does say it would take more than Duran to get Skubal.

With Skubal’s value at $60.6mill ( higher than Duran’s $49.5mill), a BTV Fair package is more like Early, Campbell and Sandlin or Early, Arias and Romero. Both of those do seem fair as well, although who knows what Detroit wants.

Now a deal sending Duran to Detroit that makes sense is going to get the Sox prospects only - possibly 2 from Rainer, Jobe and Liranzo.  And probably not Jobe…

Posted
9 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Just sign Skubal next winter.

You make it sound so simple, which it would not be. Even if someone stole JH checkbook the Red Sox wouldn’t outbid any of the Big boys that would go after him once he became a FA.🙈🤭

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28 minutes ago, Old Red said:

You make it sound so simple, which it would not be. Even if someone stole JH checkbook the Red Sox wouldn’t outbid any of the Big boys that would go after him once he became a FA.🙈🤭

This point was made as a response to those who say trade only if we can extend. Well, extending him will cost what it takes to sign him in 2027, anyway, so why not just wait a year and keep Duran or the other packages suggested.

I agree, JH will not pay Skubal the money Yamamoto made, and he might get more... AAV for sure.

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3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

I don’t care what BTV says it’s going to take more than Duran to get Skubal.  
 

perhaps Duran/Early/Arias gets it done.

high price, and not one I do without knowing we can extend him.  But if you can, you do that.

Although will take us over the first tax line with several holes still to fill. I mean, I'd do it. 100%. But I don't think JH, will.

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1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

This point was made as a response to those who say trade only if we can extend. Well, extending him will cost what it takes to sign him in 2027, anyway, so why not just wait a year and keep Duran or the other packages suggested.

I agree, JH will not pay Skubal the money Yamamoto made, and he might get more... AAV for sure.

The number will always get higher than predicted in FA. Especially with the Mets in town. You put $400m in front of him when he's yours, he's probably saying yes. You put $400m in front of him on the open market, the Mets will put $550m.

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15 minutes ago, Hitch said:

The number will always get higher than predicted in FA. Especially with the Mets in town. You put $400m in front of him when he's yours, he's probably saying yes. You put $400m in front of him on the open market, the Mets will put $550m.

The Mets are that bad at making counteroffers?

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4 minutes ago, notin said:

The Mets are that bad at making counteroffers?

$450m that was meant to say...

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We can't be certain who the Mets and Dodgers will target and keep upping their bids.

I agree, they will get who the want most, but there are 5-6 players we could target. I'd love to see us get two, and I think the Mets and Dodgers will leave 2-3 for us to outbid all the others on. My guess is Philly outbid us for Schwarber, so we may have just 2 left for us.

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6 hours ago, notin said:

What BTV doesn’t say is DURAN WILL NOT BE IN THAT DEAL AT ALL.  Why would Detroit want him if they are running up the white flag by dealing Skubal?  Campbell makes more sense than Duran at that point, and we don’t even know if Detroit likes Campbell.

Skubal has one year left. That is a huge factor. Especially since he has reportedly been reluctant with extension talks….

 

Well then….not Duran

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