A Realistic Look at the 2026 Red Sox: Part I

[moonslav59]

31 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Time to deal!

More than just Duran.

[moonslav59]

Last control year (not counting club options)...

2026

Gray, Whitlock, Sandoval, Coulombe & IKF

2027

Chapman, Yoshida, Story, Houck & Oviedo (Contreras has a 2028 option)

2028

Duran, Romy, Crawford, Casas & Wong

I'd think anybody listed above, except maybe Contreras and Romy can/should/will be shopped.

[mvp 78]

9 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Last control year (not counting club options)...

2026

Gray, Whitlock, Sandoval, Coulombe & IKF

2027

Chapman, Yoshida, Story, Houck & Oviedo (Contreras has a 2028 option)

2028

Duran, Romy, Crawford, Casas & Wong

I'd think anybody listed above, except maybe Contreras and Romy can/should/will be shopped.

Why wouldn't you count club options? 

[JoeBrady]

13 hours ago, Duran Is The Man said:

Devers is now Durbin and Monostereo. LOLOL....what a f***ing joke of a trade.

If you want to pay full freight for Devers and his -0.1 bWAR, I'm guessing that SF would send him back tomorrow.  I'd actually like to trade for Devers, but there is no chance I'd pay the full remaining $240M+ contract.

Would anyone in here do so?

[moonslav59]

39 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Why wouldn't you count club options? 

I listed Contreras, because I think we'd take his option and not pay the $7.5M buyout.

I don't think we give Story his option, so he's gone after 2027.

Gray can opt out after 2026, so in a sense, we don't have 100% "control" of his after '26.

I listed Chapman as 2027 despite a mutual option after 2026.

I mistakenly forgot Whitlock has team options after 2026 and 2027 at somewhat reasonable rates, assuming he is healthy and pitching well.  One could argue about not trading him.

Those are my reasons.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

If you want to pay full freight for Devers and his -0.1 bWAR, I'm guessing that SF would send him back tomorrow.  I'd actually like to trade for Devers, but there is no chance I'd pay the full remaining $240M+ contract.

Would anyone in here do so?

Brez and JH never would, so talk of it seems pointless.

Too much water under the bridge. I'd say no, even if they took Story, Yoshida and Bello. Once their contracts are up, his contract will be an an issue.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, JoeBrady said:

If you want to pay full freight for Devers and his -0.1 bWAR, I'm guessing that SF would send him back tomorrow.  I'd actually like to trade for Devers, but there is no chance I'd pay the full remaining $240M+ contract.

Would anyone in here do so?

897 OPS in May. He'll be fine if he keeps hitting. 

Mar/Apr is historically his worst OPS month. Dude doesn't take his offseason seriously. Then he mashes in May - end of Summer. 

[JoeBrady]

13 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Yup, and guys like IKF, who play way less than Duran can jump hundreds of points in a matter of a few games.

IKF has the same bWAR as Mayer, Story and Durban combined.  Does the crowd still want to DFA him?

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

897 OPS in May. He'll be fine if he keeps hitting. 

Mar/Apr is historically his worst OPS month. Dude doesn't take his offseason seriously. Then he mashes in May - end of Summer. 

Is that a yes?

How much would SFG have to pay for that "yes?"

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

IKF has the same bWAR as Mayer, Story and Durban combined.  Does the crowd still want to DFA him?

Some probably still do.

With Story out and Durbin and Mayer underperforming, I don't see the reason to trade or DFA him.

[mvp 78]

5 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Is that a yes?

How much would SFG have to pay for that "yes?"

How much would they eat? IDK. I think they should keep Devers and deal Adames and Chapman who are much older. 

[mvp 78]

5 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Some probably still do.

With Story out and Durbin and Mayer underperforming, I don't see the reason to trade or DFA him.

If they traded him, the return isn't that great to begin with. You are only dealing him if you're making room for a guy you want to see on the team. With Story on the IL and Durbin/Mayer struggles, there's enough room to bring other guys up to see how they are anyway.