Red Sox 2025 Season Review/Offseason Preview Thread

[mvp 78]

From MLB:

The younger brother of pitcher Andre Jackson, who last pitched in the big leagues in 2023 and is currently throwing in Japan, Isaiah Jackson was a solid, albeit raw, high school outfield prospect who landed on MLB Pipeline’s Top 250 in 2022. The Astros took him late that July but he headed to Arizona State for college ball. He showed inconsistent glimpses of his potential over his first two seasons, but put it together in 2025 to earn All-Big 12 Conference first-team honors to help him land with the Angels as their eighth-round selection.

A left-handed hitter, the 6-foot-3 Jackson has long had tremendous raw power and he started tapping into it consistently for the first time this past spring. A lot of that had to do with making better swing decisions and being shorter to the ball compared to his first two years in school. After striking out 26.7 percent of the time as a freshman and sophomore combined, he cut that down to 17.1 percent this year while upping his walk rate from 8.8 percent (2023 and '24) to 11.2 percent.

While Jackson is an average runner, he’s very athletic, especially for his size. He knows how to steal a base, and while at one point it was thought he’d have to move to a corner, he’s become an outstanding defender in center field, one who made the Pac-12 All-Defensive team two years in a row. It likely will always be a power-over-hit profile at the plate, but his overall profile is helped by the fact he can stay up the middle at the next level.

[Hugh2]

People appear to be upset, I guess Grissom was really popular around here

[Old Red]

8 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

People appear to be upset, I guess Grissom was really popular around here

I would say more infamous.

[moonslav59]

Word is the NYM won't go past 3 years for Alonso.

4 years for the 31 year old crappy defensive 1Bman who has played 162 games for 2 straight seasons?

OPS+ 144 and 130 last 3 years

40 HRs per 162 since '22

4-5 years for a good defensive 3Bman who turns 32 in March?

OPS+ 128 and 121 last 3 years

27 HRs per 162 since '22

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Since Mayer can play 3B or 2B, it's really about replacing Casas with Alonso or Romy/DHam at 2B over Mayer/Romy with Bregman.

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I'd go with Alonso for 4 years over Bregman for 4-5 years. Close call.

 

[Old Red]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

Word is the NYM won't go past 3 years for Alonso.

4 years for the 31 year old crappy defensive 1Bman who has played 162 games for 2 straight seasons?

OPS+ 144 and 130 last 3 years

40 HRs per 162 since '22

4-5 years for a good defensive 3Bman who turns 32 in March?

OPS+ 128 and 121 last 3 years

27 HRs per 162 since '22

__________________

Since Mayer can play 3B or 2B, it's really about replacing Casas with Alonso or Romy/DHam at 2B over Mayer/Romy with Bregman.

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I'd go with Alonso for 4 years over Bregman for 4-5 years. Close call.

 

I agree on Alonso over Bregman.

[Larry Cook]

31 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Better than a DFA. Clears a roster spot for a FA acquisition or Rule 5 pick tomorrow.

Cohen the Yankees reliever has really good stuff!!! Weissert could be hearing footsteps 

[Larry Cook]

13 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Word is the NYM won't go past 3 years for Alonso.

4 years for the 31 year old crappy defensive 1Bman who has played 162 games for 2 straight seasons?

OPS+ 144 and 130 last 3 years

40 HRs per 162 since '22

4-5 years for a good defensive 3Bman who turns 32 in March?

OPS+ 128 and 121 last 3 years

27 HRs per 162 since '22

__________________

Since Mayer can play 3B or 2B, it's really about replacing Casas with Alonso or Romy/DHam at 2B over Mayer/Romy with Bregman.

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I'd go with Alonso for 4 years over Bregman for 4-5 years. Close call.

 

Rumor has it, we have a 4 year offer to Alonso already on the table! 
 

[Old Red]

4 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Rumor has it, we have a 4 year offer to Alonso already on the table! 
 

4yrs/$120M?

[moonslav59]

13 minutes ago, Old Red said:

4yrs/$120M?

Maybe the 4th year brings it to $112-116M/4.

That's a $28-29M AAV.

Would he take $125-130M/5? ($25-26M AAV)

[Larry Cook]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe the 4th year brings it to $112-116M/4.

That's a $28-29M AAV.

Would he take $125-130M/5? ($25-26M AAV)

If baltimore puts a 4 year deal on the table for similar money, I wonder what he decides???

Did the cubs really offer 5 years with Bregman?? 

[Old Red]

5 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

If baltimore puts a 4 year deal on the table for similar money, I wonder what he decides???

Did the cubs really offer 5 years with Bregman?? 

There is a report out there that the O’s offered Schwarber the same deal he got from Philly, so they now may turn their attention to Alonso.

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

If baltimore puts a 4 year deal on the table for similar money, I wonder what he decides???

Did the cubs really offer 5 years with Bregman?? 

I'd guess Alonso would prefer BOS> BAL.

If the Cubs outbid us for Breggie, I'm fine, as long as we get Alonso, KMarte or two from Suarez, Polanco & Lodolo.

[Hugh2]

58 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I would say more infamous.

Well maybe now that he's gone we can all move on and stop talking about it

[Old Red]

11 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Well maybe now that he's gone we can all move on and stop talking about it

I doubt it. Grissom for Sale, and $17M is a stain of Brez’s resume, and will be under the BB column.

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

From MLB:

The younger brother of pitcher Andre Jackson, who last pitched in the big leagues in 2023 and is currently throwing in Japan, Isaiah Jackson was a solid, albeit raw, high school outfield prospect who landed on MLB Pipeline’s Top 250 in 2022. The Astros took him late that July but he headed to Arizona State for college ball. He showed inconsistent glimpses of his potential over his first two seasons, but put it together in 2025 to earn All-Big 12 Conference first-team honors to help him land with the Angels as their eighth-round selection.

A left-handed hitter, the 6-foot-3 Jackson has long had tremendous raw power and he started tapping into it consistently for the first time this past spring. A lot of that had to do with making better swing decisions and being shorter to the ball compared to his first two years in school. After striking out 26.7 percent of the time as a freshman and sophomore combined, he cut that down to 17.1 percent this year while upping his walk rate from 8.8 percent (2023 and '24) to 11.2 percent.

While Jackson is an average runner, he’s very athletic, especially for his size. He knows how to steal a base, and while at one point it was thought he’d have to move to a corner, he’s become an outstanding defender in center field, one who made the Pac-12 All-Defensive team two years in a row. It likely will always be a power-over-hit profile at the plate, but his overall profile is helped by the fact he can stay up the middle at the next level.

Im going to chalk this up to good to be true.  Like remember those football documentaries on ESPN in the nineties, where they would give like a deep dive on like the raiders team from 2 years prior and they make the team sound like a juggernaut and then you find out the team went 7-9 that year.

They can dress up (or dress down). And I just cant get myself to believe that this post isnt a dress up.  I mean, CF'er who can stick in center , superbly athletic, ton of power, just figured out how to tap into it....I mean, Id trade Sale for that guy , so I have to assume this is an optimistic write up of Jackson.

Otherwise, bye cedanne.

[drewski6]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Word is the NYM won't go past 3 years for Alonso.

4 years for the 31 year old crappy defensive 1Bman who has played 162 games for 2 straight seasons?

OPS+ 144 and 130 last 3 years

40 HRs per 162 since '22

4-5 years for a good defensive 3Bman who turns 32 in March?

OPS+ 128 and 121 last 3 years

27 HRs per 162 since '22

__________________

Since Mayer can play 3B or 2B, it's really about replacing Casas with Alonso or Romy/DHam at 2B over Mayer/Romy with Bregman.

__________________

I'd go with Alonso for 4 years over Bregman for 4-5 years. Close call.

 

And theyll both get 6

[drewski6]

28 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

If baltimore puts a 4 year deal on the table for similar money, I wonder what he decides???

Did the cubs really offer 5 years with Bregman?? 

Schwarber is a 33 yr old DH and just got 5 years. Why cant Bregman?

[drewski6]

33 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Maybe the 4th year brings it to $112-116M/4.

That's a $28-29M AAV.

Would he take $125-130M/5? ($25-26M AAV)

Holy crap.  Bro, everyone who just missed out on Schwarber is now in on Alonso.  Pitt was going to offer Schwarber 4 @ 120.  

No, Alonso is not taking this.

Alonso and Bregman will both get 170m at minimum unless its a similar situation to bregmans last contract (full of opt outs)

[drewski6]

My prediction:

Alonso gets 7 yrs  - 220m
Bregman gets 6 yrs - 185m

[drewski6]

Shoulda kept raffy

[Old Red]

2 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

My prediction:

Alonso gets 7 yrs  - 220m
Bregman gets 6 yrs - 185m

No!
NO!

[drewski6]

Just now, Old Red said:

No!
NO!

Inflation, bruh

[Old Red]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

Inflation, bruh

Not for JH though IMO.

[moonslav59]

14 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Schwarber is a 33 yr old DH and just got 5 years. Why cant Bregman?

He didn't last year.

[drewski6]

3 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Not for JH though IMO.

Well if JH doesnt want to keep up with inflation, then we can expect to make the playoffs 20% of the time, and be true contenders 5% of the time

But sure, perhaps hes a line in the sand, no top 6 payroll, we are a mid-market team bahumbug scrooge mcduck.  Maybe, thats what hes become but Im not convinced at this exact moment in time.  It wont bother me as much as the bootlickers celebrating it though.

Finish first, finish fourth, whatever.  I just dont like red sox fans high-fiving when other teams sign stars because yay, we didnt overpay.  We look pathetic when we do this.  Cheering when people opt out becaus you think they were overpaid and you have a better handle on the market than their agent is pure buffoonery (not implying you are, I understand you are saying what you think JH will do)

[moonslav59]

12 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

My prediction:

Alonso gets 7 yrs  - 220m
Bregman gets 6 yrs - 185m

Schwarber's better than those two.

If they get more years, they get less AAV.

Alonso $29M x 5, $27M x 6 or $25M x 7

Bregman $30M x 5 or $27.5M x 6

Maybe...

[drewski6]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

He didn't last year.

Some weird stuff happened to Bregman last year, and despite his injury he did rebuild some value vs where he was last year. But remember, he could have signed 5 yrs for like 170 with Houtson, he just turned it down becuase he thought he could get 200m, they moved on - and it was deep in FA and his options were limited.

[drewski6]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

Schwarber's better than those two.

If they get more years, they get less AAV.

Alonso $29M x 5, $27M x 6 or $25M x 7

Bregman $30M x 5 or $27.5M x 6

Maybe...

Hes older than those 2, and age matters a lot.

[moonslav59]

Just now, drewski6 said:

Some weird stuff happened to Bregman last year, and despite his injury he did rebuild some value vs where he was last year. But remember, he could have signed 5 yrs for like 170 with Houtson, he just turned it down becuase he thought he could get 200m, they moved on - and it was deep in FA and his options were limited.

I disagree, fully. Bregman's 128 OPS+ in just 114 games this year was only the second time he's been over a 122 OPS+ since 2020. 3 times in the last 6 years his OPS+ was 116 or 117. He was showing decline on offense until his half season of hitting well for BOS.

.941 in 81 games from 4/3 to 8/26

(.490 in first 6 games and .571 in last 26 games.)

Of course, I'd rather have Bregman than not, but we'll be lucky to get near that production for 2-3 more years, let alone 4-5 or even 6.

[moonslav59]

7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Hes older than those 2, and age matters a lot.

And you are giving them 1-2 more years, so they'll be just as old- and worse.