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2 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

I get it.  You never played so you have no idea what I'm talking about and how often it happens.

Once again, you have absolutely no idea what level anyone posting here played to.   In turn, none of us actually knows what level you played to.  We know you claim to have played at a reasonably high level, but we have nothing more than your words to go by.

I could say I played high school, American Legion and was a second round draft choice.  Do you know any of it to be true or false?

Posted
13 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

Once again, you have absolutely no idea what level anyone posting here played to.   In turn, none of us actually knows what level you played to.  We know you claim to have played at a reasonably high level, but we have nothing more than your words to go by.

I could say I played high school, American Legion and was a second-round draft choice.  Do you know any of it to be true or false?

I'm not interested in your career.  I'm sure it was outstanding.  When I read a comment like yours, I know what level you DIDN'T play at.  That's all.  Someone who played in college would know the pecking order of players.  They would also know what being red-shirted means and why red-shirting happens.   To think a player that got picked up on scholarship after the scholarship deadline due to a phenomenal summer season has a chance of beating out a multi-year starter and captain shows you didn't experience the hierarchy of college sports.

So, no I have no idea what levels you played at, I only know what level you didn't play at based on your very naive comment on how things work in college.  Heck, you could be in grade school for all I know, and I simply don't care.  When you comment to me about things you clearly don't know anything about then it becomes clearer who I'm dealing with, and I need to consider the source.   Feel free to be sarcastic and annoying as often you like because I'm really not interested in your opinions on topics you know nothing about.

I am serious that I hope you had a great baseball career because you seem to enjoy the sport.  I spent decades playing and promoting the sport and I frankly don't care if you believe me or not.  

Posted

On People stating that others don’t know the nature of things.  I learned a long time ago that no one goes online and argues with the “I used to do this I know what I’m doing you’ve obviously not”

it makes someone, anyone who would hypothetically do this sound arrogant, and it comes off as being very condescending.

And to say such things that go against the fabric of what we hear from everyone else on planet earth who has played at the top level is just hysterically ironic.  
 

I think anyone who makes a habit of insulting everyone who disagrees with their minority opinion as never achieving anything in a condescending way is teetering on the edge of being a troll.

those are the facts….and the facts are indisputable 

Posted
10 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

I'm not interested in your career.  I'm sure it was outstanding.  When I read a comment like yours, I know what level you DIDN'T play at.  That's all.  Someone who played in college would know the pecking order of players.  They would also know what being red-shirted means and why red-shirting happens.   To think a player that got picked up on scholarship after the scholarship deadline due to a phenomenal summer season has a chance of beating out a multi-year starter and captain shows you didn't experience the hierarchy of college sports.

So, no I have no idea what levels you played at, I only know what level you didn't play at based on your very naive comment on how things work in college.  Heck, you could be in grade school for all I know, and I simply don't care.  When you comment to me about things you clearly don't know anything about then it becomes clearer who I'm dealing with, and I need to consider the source.   Feel free to be sarcastic and annoying as often you like because I'm really not interested in your opinions on topics you know nothing about.

I am serious that I hope you had a great baseball career because you seem to enjoy the sport.  I spent decades playing and promoting the sport and I frankly don't care if you believe me or not.  

Two comments before I close interaction with you:

1) I’m glad to know that you don’t care about my career; I’d be worried if you did.  

2) The idea that one must have been a college athlete to understand the concept of redshirting is so unbelievable as to defy description.  What that part had to do with what I posted isn’t clear, but I’m sure it was somehow connected in your mind.

The obvious last question of you I should ask is if you are so knowledgeable and great in your baseball observations, why are you posting here instead of running or working for a major league club? I don’t think I’ll ask it.  The answer is self-evident.

TTFE.

Posted
21 hours ago, TedYazPapiMookie said:

I understand.  You like speed and I like sure hands.  Sometimes you get both.

Measuring the times a ball gets hit to you has a lot more to do with the pitcher vs the hitter than the range of a defender.  Also, each is a one-time event so extrapolation isn't valid.  Every play will always be unique throwing each one into a bucket completely depends on the bucket and the person deciding which bucket.  That's call "being arbitrary".  That's why defensive metrics have varied by the source and to validate the metric concept of false information the individual sources add prefixes like r and others to distinguish why the same metric can't be calculated uniformly across the industry. 

The range of a fielder is very significant and varies greatly from the best to the worst. Of course, the pitcher matters and how many balls are hit towards the player or near enough to him, where it could be fielded. The difficulty of the play matters, both in how hard it was hit and how far away from the defender it was hit. Bad hops matter, too. We all try to measure that when watching some defenders make far -ranged plays, while others never seem to make any.

I guess you assume every fielder gets to the exact same type of plays, or the difference is so minimal, it hardly counts. To me, that is so wrong, it blows my mind someone can watch baseball and not see the variances in every game.

Yes, metrics are not perfect in measuring the variances or plays made and not made, and neither is the eye test, but I've never met a single baseball fan that use the eye test and say, the variances in range is so minimal, it should not be considered, let alone that a .995 Fldg % vs a .985 Flg%, which is the range of almost every defender in MLB is somehow more important. We are talking about a handful (maybe 2) of plays made out of a thousand, which is maybe 2-5 years worth of plays, is what you use to say player A is better than player B.

Posted
3 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

On People stating that others don’t know the nature of things.  I learned a long time ago that no one goes online and argues with the “I used to do this I know what I’m doing you’ve obviously not”

it makes someone, anyone who would hypothetically do this sound arrogant, and it comes off as being very condescending.

And to say such things that go against the fabric of what we hear from everyone else on planet earth who has played at the top level is just hysterically ironic.  
 

I think anyone who makes a habit of insulting everyone who disagrees with their minority opinion as never achieving anything in a condescending way is teetering on the edge of being a troll.

those are the facts….and the facts are indisputable 

Look I wrote you a long response pointing out all the times you have instigated a negative response from me by insulting me and then I documented all your inaccurate comments that you called facts and I documented that they were not.  I was going to send it but I knew it would just trigger more insults from you so I re-wrote my response to be short and to the point and it doesn't need a response.

PLEASE DON"T RESPOND TO MY COMMENTS AT ALL.  I guarantee like all the other original threads that I have created they won't include you.  Unsolicited comments from you always begin with an insult.  If you avoid responding I will have no reason to address you again and that would be wonderful.  Thanks

Posted
1 hour ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Is Toro gonna Wally Pipp Casas out of a job?

A few people could dislodge Casas from his role as the worst defensive China doll, 1Bman in MLB

Posted
6 hours ago, illinoisredsox said:

Two comments before I close interaction with you:

1) I’m glad to know that you don’t care about my career; I’d be worried if you did.  

2) The idea that one must have been a college athlete to understand the concept of redshirting so unbelievable as to defy description.  What that part had to do with what I posted isn’t clear, but I’m sure it was somehow connected in your mind.

The obvious last question of you I should ask is if you are so knowledgeable and great in your baseball observations, why are you posting here instead of running or working for a major league club? I don’t think I’ll ask it.  The answer is self-evident.

TTFE.

I did and I am retired.

Posted

Mayer has a 1.000% fielding percentage in the majors.  He’s obviously the greatest 3B of all time.  Maybe we should move him to SS
 

can’t argue against that 

Posted
1 minute ago, Hugh2 said:

Mayer has a 1.000% fielding percentage in the majors.  He’s obviously the greatest 3B of all time.  Maybe we should move him to SS
 

can’t argue against that 

But his vehicle has zero range -- even if it's a Range Rover -- cuz he lost his keys.

Posted
5 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

But his vehicle has zero range -- even if it's a Range Rover -- cuz he lost his keys.

Of course it has range, that’s why it’s called the “range rover”

Posted
1 hour ago, Hugh2 said:

Mayer has a 1.000% fielding percentage in the majors.  He’s obviously the greatest 3B of all time.  Maybe we should move him to SS
 

can’t argue against that 

Nope can’t argue about his fielding %, and couldn’t argue about his batting average either if he had one.🤫

Posted
59 minutes ago, Old Red said:

Nope can’t argue about his fielding %, and couldn’t argue about his batting average either if he had one.🤫

75% k rate.  Can you say bust?

Posted
30 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

75% k rate.  Can you say bust?

It sounds pretty Suspect to me, but we’ll give him a few more games to figure things out.

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