Red Sox Spring Training

[dgalehouse]

The " Say Hey Kid ", once hit a Spaldeen four sewers with a taped up broomstick. You won't see that again. 

[notin]

15 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

The home run that went farther than any was hit by Jim Rice over the Green Monster, Lansdowne Street, and the Cask N Flagon. It supposedly landed in the bed of a truck in the westbound lane of the Mass. Turnpike and was found at a loading dock somewhere in New Jersey. 

At least that's how I remembered Hawk Harrelson describing it in the mid-1970s.

I remember ESPN showing a Jack Clark bomb that “hit the Citgo sign.”  It did kknd of look like it did because something flew into the path of the ball.

But hit the Citgo sign?  That sign is a good 400 yards behind the monster and some 35 floors up…

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

20 minutes ago, notin said:

I remember ESPN showing a Jack Clark bomb that “hit the Citgo sign.”  It did kknd of look like it did because something flew into the path of the ball.

But hit the Citgo sign?  That sign is a good 400 yards behind the monster and some 35 floors up…

Clark couldn't hit the Citgo sign if he was hang-gliding past it with a 36-inch Old Hickory. He'd wait for an earthquake tremor to shake the sign down to the ground, then swing over it and miss completely.

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Clark couldn't hit the Citgo sign if he was hang-gliding past it with a 36-inch Old Hickory. He'd wait for an earthquake tremor to shake the sign down to the ground, then swing over it and miss completely.

Clark was a great player and is more deserving of the HOF than Baines. However, he was a shell of what he once was when he got to BOS. 

Nick Esasky hits the ball OVER the Citgo sign in '89 if he feels like it though.

[moonslav59]

Gio to get MRI on hammy.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Gio to get MRI on hammy.

Pulled his hammy on the first pitch of his first game in a year. No, seriously.

Workhorse could be looking at glue factory.

But there is a contract clause: if he's ok, he can go to pasture and stare at mares.

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Pulled his hammy on the first pitch of his first game in a year. No, seriously.

Workhorse could be looking at glue factory.

But there is a contract clause: if he's ok, he can go to pasture and stare at mares.

Why are we so attracted to these guys, even when they were not known for glue factory material when we sign them?

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

Pulled his hammy on the first pitch of his first game in a year. No, seriously.

Workhorse could be looking at glue factory.

But there is a contract clause: if he's ok, he can go to pasture and stare at mares.

The contract states that if he puts up less than 140 innings this year, the Sox have a club option on him for next season. Come on down 2026 Giolito!

[Bellhorn04]

20 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Why are we so attracted to these guys, even when they were not known for glue factory material when we sign them?

Which group of "these guys" is Giolito part of?

[Bellhorn04]

19 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

The contract states that if he puts up less than 140 innings this year, the Sox have a club option on him for next season. Come on down 2026 Giolito!

Man, the Sale trade and the Giolito signing were cursed transactions.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

5 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Man, the Sale trade and the Giolito signing were cursed transactions.

Story's offended you left him out, and says there's still time to curse him, too, before the regular season opens.

[mvp 78]

49 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Man, the Sale trade and the Giolito signing were cursed transactions.

Bres' first offseason had a significant whiff rate.

[Larry Cook]

1.) crochet 

2.) houck 

3.) beuhler 

4.) Fitts 

5.) preister 

 

[moonslav59]

11 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

Which group of "these guys" is Giolito part of?

The "not known" beforehand group.

[mvp 78]

From FanGraphs today:

One way to tell the difference between a baseball fan who has a life and a true sicko is whether they have strong opinions on players who sign minor league contracts and attend spring training on a non-roster invite. 

So congratulations to all of us sickos who have opinions on Michael Fulmer, Robert Stock, et al. 

[moonslav59]

10 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Bres' first offseason had a significant whiff rate.

The O"Neall and Slaten trades were golden. Fitts & Weissert for Dugo looks like a good one. The Criswell signing was nice. The I Campbell & Sandlin trades are still TBD.

The two bad ones weigh heavier, of course.

[mvp 78]

24 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

The O"Neall and Slaten trades were golden. Fitts & Weissert for Dugo looks like a good one. The Criswell signing was nice. The I Campbell & Sandlin trades are still TBD.

The two bad ones weigh heavier, of course.

I chose the word "significant" intentionally. I opted to not use "high." 

[mvp 78]

 

[moonslav59]

31 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I chose the word "significant" intentionally. I opted to not use "high." 

Agreed. In terms of good deals vs bad deals, not counting scrub signings, I think he might be near 50%. It's just the bad were really bad and more hurtful.

Bad: Sale & Gio

Good: O"Neal & Slaten (Criswell & Romy could be viewed as a scrub signings that worked- maybe 2 out of 10 or 15.)

TBD: Fitts & Weissert, Sandlin, I Campbell.

[mvp 78]

 

[vegasbob]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

 

Attendance is a little down .     Devers finally gets to hit off Sox pitching .   And Raffy ran out 3 bases, so all looks good .

[Jasonbay44]

Marcelo and Campbell went back to back earlier, and later Roman Anthony hit an absolute BOMB. Homer for all of the big 3 tonight 

[Jasonbay44]

 

[moonslav59]

The Kids Are Allright.

[vjcsmoke]

All three of our big prospects hit a Homerun in the same game. This is the future we are looking forward to. Hope they are ready to help the big club soon!

Article: https://www.mlb.com/news/kristian-campbell-marcelo-mayer-go-back-to-back-in-spring-breakout

[vjcsmoke]

BTW Do we trade Vaughn Grissom because Marcelo Mayer could be ready soon or what's his story? He hit poorly last year, nor did he light it up in the minors.

Article in favor of trading him: https://www.si.com/mlb/red-sox/boston-red-sox-news/red-sox-urged-to-trade-24-year-old-change-of-scenery-candidate-amid-roster-crunch-jackson3

[moonslav59]

19 minutes ago, vjcsmoke said:

BTW Do we trade Vaughn Grissom because Marcelo Mayer could be ready soon or what's his story? He hit poorly last year, nor did he light it up in the minors.

Article in favor of trading him: https://www.si.com/mlb/red-sox/boston-red-sox-news/red-sox-urged-to-trade-24-year-old-change-of-scenery-candidate-amid-roster-crunch-jackson3

We won't get anything very good for Grissom, so I think maybe waiting, in hope he can build up his stock may be the best call. He may have to do it at AAA.

Even with Bregman playing 3B FT, I have Grissom 5th on the 2B depth chart:

Campbell

Mayer or Story (whoever is not at SS)

DHam-Romy platoon

Grissom

(Maybe he can beat our Romy for a platoon role with DHam, but Romy plays better D and can play SS, 1B and 3B.)

If we come up to a 40 man roster crunch, maybe we'll need to trade Grissom.

[notin]

7 hours ago, vjcsmoke said:

BTW Do we trade Vaughn Grissom because Marcelo Mayer could be ready soon or what's his story? He hit poorly last year, nor did he light it up in the minors.

Article in favor of trading him: https://www.si.com/mlb/red-sox/boston-red-sox-news/red-sox-urged-to-trade-24-year-old-change-of-scenery-candidate-amid-roster-crunch-jackson3

What a stupid article. Clearly the assignment was “Jackson, post something about the Red Sox by Thursday.  And nothing about Devers.  Make it something new.l

Essentially it boils down to “The Red Sox were stupid and impatient for giving up on Sale after 4 years of no production that was preceded by his worst season ever.  But they should learn a valuable lesson from that impatience and give up on Grissom NOW because he has had over 100 PA with the big club and didn’t set the world on fire and now there’s a ‘roster crunch’ among the utility infielders, all of whom have options.”

A roster crunch?  Like the Sox have Paul Molitor and Ryne Sandberg battling it out for second base. 

[Bellhorn04]

23 minutes ago, notin said:

What a stupid article. Clearly the assignment was “Jackson, post something about the Red Sox by Thursday.  And nothing about Devers.  Make it something new.l

Essentially it boils down to “The Red Sox were stupid and impatient for giving up on Sale after 4 years of no production that was preceded by his worst season ever.  But they should learn a valuable lesson from that impatience and give up on Grissom NOW because he has had over 100 PA with the big club and didn’t set the world on fire and now there’s a ‘roster crunch’ among the utility infielders, all of whom have options.”

Well, it's not much of an article, but to be fair to Jackson, it was mostly a recap of what another blogger said, and Jackson said this:

If there's one thing that's for certain, it's that the Red Sox have to ignore the Sale piece of all this. Looking back, there's no guarantee the lefty would have stayed healthy and been a Cy Young contender last year if he'd stayed in Boston, and at any rate, the Red Sox should only be looking forward.

[notin]

8 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

We won't get anything very good for Grissom, so I think maybe waiting, in hope he can build up his stock may be the best call. He may have to do it at AAA.

Even with Bregman playing 3B FT, I have Grissom 5th on the 2B depth chart:

Campbell

Mayer or Story (whoever is not at SS)

DHam-Romy platoon

Grissom

(Maybe he can beat our Romy for a platoon role with DHam, but Romy plays better D and can play SS, 1B and 3B.)

If we come up to a 40 man roster crunch, maybe we'll need to trade Grissom.

Campbell and Mayer are not options yet, which leaves Grissom third on your depth chart behind a platoon and …. leaving a gaping hole on the right side of the infield?!?

The first two are not on the 40 man roster, and the one banging his way doesn’t play 2b, and the one who does play 2b isnt banging his way on to the roster.

Hamilton and Romy are last year’s story.  Campbell isnt likely.  That really just leaves Marcelo Mayer or the 2021 version of Marcelo Mayer based catapulted through the Braves farm system aka Vaughn Grissom…