2024 Prospects

[mvp 78]

From Dave to Craig none of these guys have any active involvement in the signing of 16 year old players from Venezuela/Dominican Republic. That’s almost solely on the international scouting department. I also highly doubt anyone can number how many pitchers/RHB we’ve taken over the last 5 years either.

 

But I’d bet some would be surprised if they looked it up.

 

Not in the player, but maybe in the direction of the types of players they are looking to sign.

[Hugh2]

Not in the player, but maybe in the direction of the types of players they are looking to sign.

 

 

 

Maybe, even with that I'm not so sure. If you look at the signing grouped together as years, they're not signing a shortage of RHB, or Pitchers out of the Dominican. Those guys just aren't trickling up to the top.

 

I could keep buying lotto tickets and complain that they aren't hitting, I suppose the solution would be to just start buying lotto tickets that are winners.

 

From what I've been reading lately, it seems like more money spent on pitching yields better results in the Rule 5 draft than the IFA arena anyways. But still, numbers isn't the problem, they take pitchers, most just don't pan out.

[Larry Cook]

Sogard continues to impress me! He is making solid contact.

[moonslav59]

Opening Days in the minors...

 

MAR 29

Worcester @ Lehigh Valley

 

APR 5

Hartford @ Portland

Greenville @ Greensboro

Carolina @ Salem

[moonslav59]

soxprospects.com now projects Criswell to be on the 26 man roster as the 6th SP'er.

 

Here are their projected rotations at the minor league levels (many have 6 listed)

 

AAA: Murphy, Walter, Fitts, Gambrell, Van Belle

AA: Wikelman, Dobbins, Bastardo, I Coffey, Penrod, Song

A+: Perales, Sandlin, Monegro, E R-C, Rogers, Duffy

A-: Early, Judice, Soto, Cohen, F Hernandez, Mullins

FCL: Polanco, Batista, Balderas, Lee, Yonfi Rodriguez

 

 

 

[moonslav59]

Starting 9 in AAA (soxprospects.com)

C Heineman

1B Dalbec

2B Yorke

3B Meidroth

SS Hamilton

LF Guthrie

CF Rafaela

RF Contreras

DH R Gonzalez.

Bench: C Kolozsvary, C/1B Scott, IF Dunand, IF Sogard, UT Westbrook

 

AA (an interesting team)

C Teel

1B Jordan, Kavadas

2B McDonough, Koss

3B Paulino, Binelas

SS Mayer, Lugo

LF Rosier

CF Anthony

RF Sikes

DH/C Hickey

 

A+

C Rosario, Lira

1B Sierra

2B Ravelo, Ferguson

3B C Coffey

SS Romero

LF Jimenez

CF Castro

RF Chacon

DH K Campbell

 

Edited March 16, 2024 by moonslav59

[notin]

soxprospects.com now projects Criswell to be on the 26 man roster as the 6th SP'er.

 

Here are their projected rotations at the minor league levels (many have 6 listed)

 

AAA: Murphy, Walter, Fitts, Gambrell, Van Belle

AA: Wikelman, Dobbins, Bastardo, I Coffey, Penrod, Song

A+: Perales, Sandlin, Monegro, E R-C, Rogers, Duffy

A-: Early, Judice, Soto, Cohen, F Hernandez, Mullins

FCL: Polanco, Batista, Balderas, Lee, Yonfi Rodriguez

 

 

 

 

They now have Criswell in the bullpen and - just to further their credibility - have put Tyler O’Neill on the bench…

[Larry Cook]

Didn’t O’Neil get another soft tissue injury???

 

Duran - left field.

Rafeala - center field

Abreau - right field.

Yoshida - DH

O’Neil - trainers table

Refsyder - IR (replaced by dalbec?)

[moonslav59]

They now have Criswell in the bullpen and - just to further their credibility - have put Tyler O’Neill on the bench…

 

I'm thinking maybe Criswell deserves a slot on the 26 and may do well.

 

(I thought that about Andriese, too.)

[mvp 78]

They now have Criswell in the bullpen and - just to further their credibility - have put Tyler O’Neill on the bench…

 

Platoon of O'Neilll/Abreu and O'Neilll is the weakside of the platoon so gets less AB's? Maybe that's how it's forecasted? IDK.

[moonslav59]

Platoon of O'Neilll/Abreu and O'Neilll is the weakside of the platoon so gets less AB's? Maybe that's how it's forecasted? IDK.

 

I think it's more like a 4-way time share:

 

LF: O'Neill/Duran

CF: Duran/Rafaela

RF: Abreu/O'Neill

 

Duran & Abreu can sit vs most LH'd SP'ers.

Rafaela may sit vs many RH'd SP'ers.

O'Neill has pretty even splits, but may sit vs more RH'd SPers.

 

We had over 2100 PAs in the OF, last year. Certainly, we will go more than 4 deep, but assuming 100% health, we could divide the PAs as such:

 

600 O'Neill (sits vs some RHPs)

550 Duran (sits vs some LHPs)

475 Abreu (sits vs LHPs)

475 Rafaela (sits vs some RHPs)

 

[mvp 78]

@tylermilliken_

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@CarlosACollazo of @BaseballAmerica

has released his first mock draft of 2024 and he has the Red Sox taking Duke LHP Jonathan Santucci with the 12th pick.

 

Local kid from Leominster. He’s made 4 starts this spring with a 2.29 ERA, 16.0 K/9, and 4.6 BB/9.

[moonslav59]

@tylermilliken_

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@CarlosACollazo of @BaseballAmerica

has released his first mock draft of 2024 and he has the Red Sox taking Duke LHP Jonathan Santucci with the 12th pick.

 

Local kid from Leominster. He’s made 4 starts this spring with a 2.29 ERA, 16.0 K/9, and 4.6 BB/9.

 

This would make a few posters here happy.

[Larry Cook]

@tylermilliken_

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@CarlosACollazo of @BaseballAmerica

has released his first mock draft of 2024 and he has the Red Sox taking Duke LHP Jonathan Santucci with the 12th pick.

 

Local kid from Leominster. He’s made 4 starts this spring with a 2.29 ERA, 16.0 K/9, and 4.6 BB/9.

 

My mock has Tommy white of LSU in round one and Aaron siebert in round two

[moonslav59]

The Spx AAA roster might be squeezed, this year as numerous top prospects are slated to start the year in AA:

 

1. Anthony 19 years old

2. Mayer 21

3. Teel 22

9. Wikelman 21

17. Hickey 24 (make or break time?)

18. Paulino 21

20. Jordan 21

24. Dobbins 24

28. Bastardo 22

30. Hoppe 25

Also: Rosier, Troye, Penrod, I Coffey, Olivares, Sykes, McDonough, Zeferjahn & Lugo may knock on AAA's door with a strong start to 2024.)

 

Some AAA players that may be moved:

 

Dalbec, especially if we keep Cron, may be traded or DFA'd.

Criswell, Fitts (not on 40), Walter or some other pitcher may be promoted to MLB.

DHam, Sogard (not on 40), Yorke or a catcher like Heineman may be promoted, if needed.

AAA trade material : Yorke or Meidroth

AAA DFA possibilities: Jacques, Dalbec

Might move on: R Gonzalez, M Contreras, D Guthrie, J Westbrook, S Scott or M Kolozsvary, E Alvarez, Cam Bosser, Shugart, Politi, Adon.

 

 

[mvp 78]

Meidroth seems like he'll have a chance to stick around for a while. His glove has been really sharp whenever I've seen him. He's got an early 00's A's body though. Not a jeans guy.

 

I could see them trading Yorke at some point. It really depends on the development of his bat. If he's really not able to hit above 800 in AAA, what's the use in keeping him around. He's still young though being a HS draft pick. There may be meat left on the bone.

 

Contreras is a journeyman OFer that will stick around for the year and is good to have in case of emergency.

 

It's more likely that they keep guys like Kolzsvary around than Stephen Scott. I'd rather have good fielding Catchers with no upside than bad fielding Catchers with a little upside.

 

All the relief pitchers are whatever. Just the normal churn.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Meidroth seems like he'll have a chance to stick around for a while. His glove has been really sharp whenever I've seen him. He's got an early 00's A's body though. Not a jeans guy.

 

I could see them trading Yorke at some point. It really depends on the development of his bat. If he's really not able to hit above 800 in AAA, what's the use in keeping him around. He's still young though being a HS draft pick. There may be meat left on the bone.

 

Contreras is a journeyman OFer that will stick around for the year and is good to have in case of emergency.

 

It's more likely that they keep guys like Kolzsvary around than Stephen Scott. I'd rather have good fielding Catchers with no upside than bad fielding Catchers with a little upside.

 

All the relief pitchers are whatever. Just the normal churn.

 

Maybe all the names on this post don't fit on an actual Prospects thread.

 

May have to start a new one for Minor Leaguers Kept Around To Fill Out A Team So Real Prospects Can Play Lower Level Games And Develop

[mvp 78]

Maybe all the names on this post don't fit on an actual Prospects thread.

 

May have to start a new one for Minor Leaguers Kept Around To Fill Out A Team So Real Prospects Can Play Lower Level Games And Develop

 

Nah, we'll stop talking about guys like Contreras and Kolsvary after the next few weeks when the games start. It will all be posts about Anthony hitting bombs and updates on Mayer's health.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Nah, we'll stop talking about guys like Contreras and Kolsvary after the next few weeks when the games start. It will all be posts about Anthony hitting bombs and updates on Mayer's health.

 

Why does the media call him Mire?

 

noun

1. a stretch of swampy or boggy ground.

"acres of land had been reduced to a mire"

 

2. a situation or state of difficulty, distress, or embarrassment from which it is hard to extricate oneself.

"he has been left to squirm in a mire of new allegations"

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Good feature on Kyle Teel by Tara Sullivan in today's Globe.

 

His brother, Aiden, now a two-way player at Virginia, said: “He has the best personality, he’s always bringing energy, and I know that will continue. He’ll bring it all to Fenway Park.”

 

Wait til we're done waiting!

[mvp 78]

Good feature on Kyle Teel by Tara Sullivan in today's Globe.

 

His brother, Aiden, now a two-way player at Virginia, said: “He has the best personality, he’s always bringing energy, and I know that will continue. He’ll bring it all to Fenway Park.”

 

Wait til we're done waiting!

 

He's apparently the clubhouse DJ and everyone likes him. Varitek with a good personality?

[mvp 78]

@SamDykstraMiLB

Top 20 overall prospect news this afternoon:

 

1. Jackson Holliday: 2022 first overall pick, beginning season in MiLB

 

6. Wyatt Langford: 2023 fourth overall pick, making World Series champs' Opening Day roster

 

18. Brooks Lee: 2022 eighth overall pick, beginning season in MiLB

 

2021 4th overall pick sitting in AA like a bitch.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

@SamDykstraMiLB

Top 20 overall prospect news this afternoon:

 

1. Jackson Holliday: 2022 first overall pick, beginning season in MiLB

 

6. Wyatt Langford: 2023 fourth overall pick, making World Series champs' Opening Day roster

 

18. Brooks Lee: 2022 eighth overall pick, beginning season in MiLB

 

2021 4th overall pick sitting in AA like a bitch.

 

Mayer as in MAYOR -- there's no i in Mayer, Tom Carrion.

[notin]

@SamDykstraMiLB

Top 20 overall prospect news this afternoon:

 

1. Jackson Holliday: 2022 first overall pick, beginning season in MiLB

 

6. Wyatt Langford: 2023 fourth overall pick, making World Series champs' Opening Day roster

 

18. Brooks Lee: 2022 eighth overall pick, beginning season in MiLB

 

2021 4th overall pick sitting in AA like a bitch.

 

Is he really doing that much worse than the 2021 second and third overall picks?

[notin]

Mayer as in MAYOR -- there's no i in Mayer, Tom Carrion.

 

Some folks seem to be getting impatient with Mayer, but only one high school player taken in the 2021 first round has touched MLB. Jordan Lawlor has 35 career plate appearances, but that .335 OPS isn’t making it look like it worked to rush him there…

[moonslav59]

Some folks seem to be getting impatient with Mayer, but only one high school player taken in the 2021 first round has touched MLB. Jordan Lawlor has 35 career plate appearances, but that .335 OPS isn’t making it look like it worked to rush him there…

 

Bloom was really taking the long look approach, and it might have been a contributing factor in his short stay with the Sox.

 

2020: first 2 picks from HS

 

2021: 1st and 4th pick (2nd from college did not sign)

 

2022: first 3 picks

 

2023: 2nd and 3rd picks

 

[Larry Cook]

Bloom was really taking the long look approach, and it might have been a contributing factor in his short stay with the Sox.

 

2020: first 2 picks from HS

 

2021: 1st and 4th pick (2nd from college did not sign)

 

2022: first 3 picks

 

2023: 2nd and 3rd picks

 

 

And yet hardly any draft capital spent on pitching early in the draft

[Dipre]

And yet hardly any draft capital spent on pitching early in the draft

 

And?

[notin]

Bloom was really taking the long look approach, and it might have been a contributing factor in his short stay with the Sox.

 

2020: first 2 picks from HS

 

2021: 1st and 4th pick (2nd from college did not sign)

 

2022: first 3 picks

 

2023: 2nd and 3rd picks

 

 

High schoolers are typically the higher ceiling picks. Think about it - we’re talking about a pool of players already identified as having potential MLB talent before age 18. Of course they’re also usually tougher to sign, since they have the option of going to college. And many use that in their negotiations.

 

College players often took longer to get noticed. Doesn’t mean they’re going to be better or worse. But it does often mean they’re older. Wyatt Langford was mentioned earlier as making MLB before Mayer. Langford played college ball at University of Florida, and is actually 13 months older than Mayer, despite being drafted 2 years later…

[moonslav59]

And yet hardly any draft capital spent on pitching early in the draft

 

Yes, something that has been happening since the latter Theo years.

 

I'm fine with the strategy of taking the best player in your slot, but we stopped adding quality and healthy pitchers in other ways.