Red Sox: Off Season '23-'24

[Bellhorn04]

So the Mets, Giants and Yankees have met with Moto.

 

Is there are any news about the Sox meeting with him?

 

Maybe they've thrown in the towel already.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

So the Mets, Giants and Yankees have met with Moto.

 

Is there are any news about the Sox meeting with him?

 

Maybe they've thrown in the towel already.

 

Feinsand on X: "will meet with the Red Sox in the coming days, per source."

[mvp 78]

It reduces the AAV to about $46 million a year.

 

The deferral will presumably also be helpful to Ohtani, because his off-field income is so high right now.

 

The accountants for the two sides probably had an orgy after this deal was made.

 

By orgy, you just mean pizza party, right?

[mvp 78]

I wonder if MLB has a problem with that amount of money being deferred .

 

They'll have to work that out in the next CBA.

[Old Red]

As it stands right now:

-We passed on 2 reasonable deals with Gray and E-Rod.

-Now, supposedly, we're in the Moto auction, against all the other high rollers, which may not be settled until early January.

-Snell and Montgomery might wait until after Moto signs, hoping their price goes up.

 

I have a very uneasy feeling that we don't have a very good plan at all.

 

E-Rod would have been the reasonable deal after the 2021 season when he was two years younger. I hope Bres isn’t looking for that third option in the fork in the road too. It could be a Yale thing.

[moonslav59]

As it stands right now:

-We passed on 2 reasonable deals with Gray and E-Rod.

-Now, supposedly, we're in the Moto auction, against all the other high rollers, which may not be settled until early January.

-Snell and Montgomery might wait until after Moto signs, hoping their price goes up.

 

I have a very uneasy feeling that we don't have a very good plan at all.

 

I'm with you. While I am holding out hope, I refuse to accept things have changed, until I see it happen.

 

I thought Gray was a good idea due to the shorter deal.

 

I think ERod probably wanted to avoid BOS, but I could be wrong.

 

I'd prefer Monty, Imanaga, and of course Yamo to ERod, anyway, so until they are off the boards (and trades are done), a final grade cannot be given.

[moonslav59]

Feinsand on X: "will meet with the Red Sox in the coming days, per source."

 

He is saving the one he thinks he wants to sign with for last.

 

Makes sense.

[mvp 78]

Sonny Gray was too rich for our blood at a whopping $75 million. Much better waiting around. Following the Bloom template.

 

Career tOPS+ split vs AL East:

Sox - 147

Rays - 141

Jays - 111

O's - 110

Yanks - 97

 

Maybe he shouldn't be pitching in this division?

[Old Red]

Career tOPS+ split vs AL East:

Sox - 147

Rays - 141

Jays - 111

O's - 110

Yanks - 97

 

Maybe he shouldn't be pitching in this division?

 

He wasn’t that impressive when he was in a Yankee uniform either.

[mvp 78]

As it stands right now:

-We passed on 2 reasonable deals with Gray and E-Rod.

-Now, supposedly, we're in the Moto auction, against all the other high rollers, which may not be settled until early January.

-Snell and Montgomery might wait until after Moto signs, hoping their price goes up.

 

I have a very uneasy feeling that we don't have a very good plan at all.

 

The plan is to sign Yamamoto. How has it changed the past few weeks?

[mvp 78]

He wasn’t that impressive when he was in a Yankee uniform either.

 

I won't hold that against him. The overall picture isn't ideal though. He dominates bad teams. IDK. I guess I'm not a Gray guy?

[Old Red]

The plan is to sign Yamamoto. How has it changed the past few weeks?

 

How has it changed the last two weeks? His asking price has gone up, and more than just a little.🙈

[mvp 78]

When Crag misses out on a guy I want, then I'll get pissy too.

[mvp 78]

How has it changed the last two weeks? His asking price has gone up, and more than just a little.

 

We knew it'd be 300ish?

[Bellhorn04]

Feinsand on X: "will meet with the Red Sox in the coming days, per source."

 

Will the Sox entourage be wearing Underdog shirts?

[Bellhorn04]

The plan is to sign Yamamoto. How has it changed the past few weeks?

 

It's looking more and more like a losing plan. All the high rollers are in.

 

Why would Moto choose the Sox? You really think Henry is going to out-Cohen Cohen on this one?

 

Anything's possible, but Moto in a Sox uniform doesn't really feel probable.

[Old Red]

We knew it'd be 300ish?

 

So out of the Dodgers, Mets, and Yankees, which one of those teams are the Red Sox going to outbid?

[Dipre]

It's looking more and more like a losing plan. All the high rollers are in.

 

Why would Moto choose the Sox? You really think Henry is going to out-Cohen Cohen on this one?

 

Anything's possible, but Moto in a Sox uniform doesn't really feel probable.

 

The Red Sox have outbid the field when they're really interested in a player, multiple times. The problem isn't whether if they can outbid the field, because they're in a great position to do so. It's whether they want to.

[Old Red]

The Red Sox have outbid the field when they're really interested in a player, multiple times. The problem isn't whether if they can outbid the field, because they're in a great position to do so. It's whether they want to.

 

The field has gotten a lot bigger, and the price has gotten a lot higher now than Anything the Red Sox have done in the past. The past has no revelation of what’s going on today.

[mvp 78]

It's looking more and more like a losing plan. All the high rollers are in.

 

Why would Moto choose the Sox? You really think Henry is going to out-Cohen Cohen on this one?

 

Anything's possible, but Moto in a Sox uniform doesn't really feel probable.

 

Why can't they Sox spend? They've spent in the past? They used to be at the top of the mountain? What has changed?

[Bellhorn04]

The Red Sox have outbid the field when they're really interested in a player, multiple times. The problem isn't whether if they can outbid the field, because they're in a great position to do so. It's whether they want to.

 

I humbly submit that the Red Sox have never been in an auction like this one. It's unprecedented to have all the richest teams in on the same guy at once.

 

Plus Moto probably has some ideas on where he'd like to play. California, the Big Apple, or Boston? Think Boston wins as the most appealing destination?

[mvp 78]

So out of the Dodgers, Mets, and Yankees, which one of those teams are the Red Sox going to outbid?

 

Why are the Sox NOT in that picture?

[Bellhorn04]

Why can't they Sox spend? They've spent in the past? They used to be at the top of the mountain? What has changed?

 

Henry changed, it seems, in 2019.

[mvp 78]

The field has gotten a lot bigger, and the price has gotten a lot higher now than Anything the Red Sox have done in the past. The past has no revelation of what’s going on today.

 

The field was always the same. I don't know who thought only one or two teams would want the best pitcher on the market, especially when they are only 25. That guy should be sought after by 6-7 teams.

[Old Red]

Why can't they Sox spend? They've spent in the past? They used to be at the top of the mountain? What has changed?

 

It’s amazing that you guys keep talking about spending in the past. What has changed is that the mountain has gotten a lot higher, and there are more people on it.

[Bellhorn04]

If Henry wasn't interested in paying Mookie Betts, what makes us think he's going to do whatever it takes to sign Moto?

[Old Red]

Why are the Sox NOT in that picture?

 

Because they won’t compete money wise.The Red Sox got their prize in Yoshida where they outbid everyone else by a large margin so much so that Boris shut things down the first day, which had never been done before. The Red Sox will not outbid any of the big spenders for the Yam Man no matter how much you wish it come true.

[Dipre]

The field has gotten a lot bigger, and the price has gotten a lot higher now than Anything the Red Sox have done in the past. The past has no revelation of what’s going on today.

 

So what? They have enough money and payroll space to sign Yamamoto if they want to. Are you implying Henry doesn't have the money to sign whoever the hell he wants? Because that's silly.

[Dipre]

If Henry wasn't interested in paying Mookie Betts, what makes us think he's going to do whatever it takes to sign Moto?

 

Because if he doesn't spend on the product, it will hurt his bottom line. The fanbase is restless and the team is sucking. He will feel it in his pockets,

[Dipre]

Because they won’t compete money wise.The Red Sox got their prize in Yoshida where they outbid everyone else by a large margin so much so that Boris shut things down the first day, which had never been done before. The Red Sox will not outbid any of the big spenders for the Yam Man no matter how much you wish it come true.

 

How in the hell do you know?