Red Sox: Off Season '23-'24

[mvp 78]

But there's no qualifying offer attached to her...

 

Sox can't sign her. She already signed with Vandy.

[Dipre]

Snell and Montgomery are known commodities. You pretty much know what you are getting. Yamamoto is more of a gamble. He might be better than either of those guys or he could be a colossal bust. Is Breslow a gambler ?

 

Unliklely unless health related.

[Dipre]

But if this statement isn't too ridiculous -- "Their inability to develop pitching isn't the problem" -- on a Red Sox forum where the majority of posters say it is...

 

... then the majority of talksox just must be ridiculous, instead.

 

That's my opinion. Everyone here is welcome to disagree.

[Old Red]

Unliklely unless health related.

 

Not probably unlikely, but it’s far from a sure thing that he’ll be as good as all the hype either, and either way it will be a big risk with all the money that will be involved.

[mvp 78]

Unliklely unless health related.

 

Health looms over every pitching contract though.

[Dipre]

Not probably unlikely, but it’s far from a sure thing that he’ll be as good as all the hype either, and either way it will be a big risk with all the money that will be involved.

 

The way market rate is going, 225/7 is not going to be a big deal for an above average starter (which is his floor) as soon as 2025.

[Dipre]

Health looms over every pitching contract though.

 

Which is why I made the caveat. You have to assume any and all pitchers will lose at least 1.5 years of any contract.

[mvp 78]

Senga

MLB: 3.52 ERA, 3.63 FIP, 166 Inn, 202 K, 77 BB

Japan '22: 1.89 ERA, 148 Inn, 156 k, 50 BB

 

Yamamoto

Japan '23: 1.16 ERA, 171 Inn, 176 K, 28 BB

Projection?: 3.20 ERA, 185 Inn, 185 K, 40 BB

 

If he does that projection, he's an ace.

[moonslav59]

You vastly underrate Clevinger and overrate Lugo…

 

Agreed on Clevinger.

 

I'd be fine changing my 3rd tier to...

 

7. Clevinger

8. Lugo

9. Wacha

 

I knoe I'm putting a lot of faith into the one good season Lugo had in 2023, as a starter, but I think you overvalue Stroman. (I almost put him in the third tier.

[moonslav59]

A lot of projections have ERod coming back home to BOS. Fine?

 

I'd love ERod as the second best SP'er we acquire, this winter.

[moonslav59]

Senga

MLB: 3.52 ERA, 3.63 FIP, 166 Inn, 202 K, 77 BB

Japan '22: 1.89 ERA, 148 Inn, 156 k, 50 BB

 

Yamamoto

Japan '23: 1.16 ERA, 171 Inn, 176 K, 28 BB

Projection?: 3.20 ERA, 185 Inn, 185 K, 40 BB

 

If he does that projection, he's an ace.

 

Sign him.

[Old Red]

Senga

MLB: 3.52 ERA, 3.63 FIP, 166 Inn, 202 K, 77 BB

Japan '22: 1.89 ERA, 148 Inn, 156 k, 50 BB

 

Yamamoto

Japan '23: 1.16 ERA, 171 Inn, 176 K, 28 BB

Projection?: 3.20 ERA, 185 Inn, 185 K, 40 BB

 

If he does that projection, he's an ace.

 

If, if, if.

[mvp 78]

If, if, if.

 

I agree. I was just looking at how Senga adjusted and projected there. The same way Suzuki and Matsui's rookie OPS's look a lot like Masa's rookie season. Both of those guys bounced back in year 2. We'll see if Masa can as well.

[moonslav59]

If, if, if.

 

Every big signing is an "if." Of course, some look less risky than other, especially those one year contracts Bloom fell in love with.

 

IMO, we need to bite the bullet and take a chance on someone. We have the budget space. If we don't go for quality signings, we'll end up taking the Bloom path, again. Sign 5 guys for $10M/1, instead of one guy for $50M/5 or $200M/7.

[mvp 78]

@mikedeportes

Sources: Boston, Toronto, Houston and a mysterious team are very interested in the services of right-handed pitcher Domingo Germán.

 

FULL THROTTLE

[Bellhorn04]

@mikedeportes

Sources: Boston, Toronto, Houston and a mysterious team are very interested in the services of right-handed pitcher Domingo Germán.

 

FULL THROTTLE

 

So much for "staying away from the bad news guys".

 

Maybe we're a player for Bauer, after all...

[mvp 78]

So much for "staying away from the bad news guys".

 

Maybe we're a player for Bauer, after all...

 

Bauer, Clevinger, German... Maybe Urbina can be part a MiLB pitching coordinator.

 

BUY LOW!

[moonslav59]

Bauer, Clevinger, German... Maybe Urbina can be part a MiLB pitching coordinator.

 

BUY LOW!

 

Forget the Rays North label, let's go "Raiders East!"

[mvp 78]

@mike_petriello

Dave Roberts just said on MLB Network that Mookie Betts will be "the everyday second baseman."

 

Red Sox need a RHB at 2B too!

 

FULL THROTTLE!

[mvp 78]

BTV accepts:

 

Mookie

 

for

 

Mayer

Duran

Winckowski

 

FULL THROTTLE

[dgalehouse]

Blue Jays sign German: Talk Sox: " Toronto is desperate , signing a drunken domestic abuser". Red Sox sign German: Talk Sox: " Everyone deserves a second chance. He could be a good # 4 starter " .

[notin]

Blue Jays sign German: Talk Sox: " Toronto is desperate , signing a drunken domestic abuser". Red Sox sign German: Talk Sox: " Everyone deserves a second chance. He could be a good # 4 starter " .

 

Given the consensus surrounding Clevinger and Bauer, safe bet we’d be more judgmental.

[mvp 78]

Blue Jays sign German: Talk Sox: " Toronto is desperate , signing a drunken domestic abuser". Red Sox sign German: Talk Sox: " Everyone deserves a second chance. He could be a good # 4 starter " .

 

Ignoring the alcohol issues, does anyone think he's a good pitcher?

[moonslav59]

Ignoring the alcohol issues, does anyone think he's a good pitcher?

 

Not me.

 

Not bad- but not good, either:

 

102 ERA+ since 2019 is not bad

4.56 FIP Meh

4.22 ERA Meh

1.14 WHIP is not bad

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

BTV accepts:

 

Mookie

 

for

 

Mayer

Duran

Winckowski

 

FULL THROTTLE

 

All three for nine years of Mookie?!?!

 

"Freidman's doing alright," typed posters on leavedodgerstadiumearly.com

[notin]

Bauer, Clevinger, German... Maybe Urbina can be part a MiLB pitching coordinator.

 

BUY LOW!

 

No Wander Franco for 2b?

[Bellhorn04]

No Wander Franco for 2b?

 

We don't want guys who are actually on their way to jail. Have to draw the line somewhere...

[moonslav59]

We don't want guys who are actually on their way to jail. Have to draw the line somewhere...

 

Is Bauer on his way?

[Bellhorn04]

Is Bauer on his way?

 

No, Bauer is free as a bird.

[notin]

Ignoring the alcohol issues, does anyone think he's a good pitcher?

 

Fairly certain the alcohol issues were his sacrificial lamb to get out of any domestic abuse program…