2023 Free Agents

[Bellhorn04]

The Atlanta Braves made $526M solely in baseball revenue in 2021 (the only team that publicly discloses). The Mets will not lose money in 2023.

 

According to Forbes, the Mets gross revenue for 2021 was $302 million.

 

https://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/#tab:overall

 

So it depends where you get the numbers from.

[Bellhorn04]

I would. Then maybe Henry will wake the f*** up and write big checks

 

Richest guy wins!

[moonslav59]

I mean the Red Sox ownership could be doing the same thing, it’s on them. All these owners are rich and with the money they want to charge fans at the stadium, the team they are fielding should be illegal.

 

Again, we could say the same about 25 teams, right now, and if the all spent like Cohen or even way more than they do now, the free-for-all would not make much of a difference for the Sox. It would for the players.

 

In isolation, only the Sox increasing their spending massively would make us Sox fans happier, but shouldn't every owner follow suit. Many team's rosters look more "illegal" than ours.

[moonslav59]

Richest guy wins!

 

And why is this something we should rejoice about and wish our owner climbs over all others?

 

Is the desire to win by outspending everyone else any better than the desire and greed to make as much money as possible?

 

Both are all about these rich guys' vanity or placement in the Forbes top 500.

[Bellhorn04]

And why is this something we should rejoice about and wish our owner climbs over all others?

 

Is the desire to win by outspending everyone else any better than the desire and greed to make as much money as possible?

 

Both are all about these rich guys' vanity or placement in the Forbes top 500.

 

Richest guy wins might seem like fun for a year or two, but will lose its charm soon enough.

 

Especially because Henry ain't the richest guy.

[mvp 78]

And why is this something we should rejoice about and wish our owner climbs over all others?

 

Is the desire to win by outspending everyone else any better than the desire and greed to make as much money as possible?

 

Both are all about these rich guys' vanity or placement in the Forbes top 500.

 

This is great for baseball.

 

1. It sets up the Mets as the new Evil Empire if they do win a few WS. (Haven't won in 35+ years)

2. It forces other owners to spend.

3. It makes the teams at the bottom look even worse than before.

4. It gets people talking about MLB again.

[moonslav59]

Richest guy wins might seem like fun for a year or two, but will lose its charm soon enough.

 

Especially because Henry ain't the richest guy.

 

I get that this may be the new reality of MLB, at least until the next CBA, but I find it hard to not see some hypocrisy here. For years, Sox fans railed against King George and the Yankees for "buying championships after championships," and no matter how hard we tried to spend more and more, it was never enough, until 2004.

 

Now, it looks like the only way to win is become the next King George among a sea of kings that is growing in numbers and magnitude.

 

I guess, in some ways, being the king of kings and winning rings would be "fun" for a while, as you pointed out, but do we really wish we become the old Yankees?

 

Again, I'm not here to defend JH's reluctance to spend when he can and probably should spend more, but where does it stop? Why should the Sox be the one to spend the most or 5th most or 8th most and not every team?

 

Is it some sense of today's "entitlement culture" or a philosophy of Sox exceptionalism that drives these beliefs?

[moonslav59]

This is great for baseball.

 

1. It sets up the Mets as the new Evil Empire if they do win a few WS. (Haven't won in 35+ years)

2. It forces other owners to spend.

3. It makes the teams at the bottom look even worse than before.

4. It gets people talking about MLB again.

 

Most of "the talk" is not flattering.

 

The bottom teams don't care how they look or if they look worse.

 

Forcing other owners to spend more does what for the game?

 

Do I care what the name of the next evil empire is, or that 3-4 teams are all vying for that title or that the Sox should or should not going that group?

[d-money]

NY teams don’t have a budget. The Sox don’t want to spend like drunken sailors. It’s gonna be interesting to see this upcoming season and see if they win more games than they did last year. All i will say is that they better have a blank check for devers. I am sick of losing our star players.

[mvp 78]

Most of "the talk" is not flattering.

 

The bottom teams don't care how they look or if they look worse.

 

Forcing other owners to spend more does what for the game?

 

Do I care what the name of the next evil empire is, or that 3-4 teams are all vying for that title or that the Sox should or should not going that group?

 

Who is complaining about the Mets exactly?

 

Yes, you should care if there are 3 or 4 teams vying to be the biggest team in baseball. That'd be amazing for this stale game.

[moonslav59]

Who is complaining about the Mets exactly?

 

Yes, you should care if there are 3 or 4 teams vying to be the biggest team in baseball. That'd be amazing for this stale game.

 

You think the vast majority of MLB fans are happy with what the Mets are doing? I just said most of the talk about the heavy spending by a handful of teams is not flattering. Do you disagree?

 

No, I don't see 4 teams spending like maniacs' as a good thing for MLB. My guess is the fans of 25-26 teams feel the same way.

[Bellhorn04]

Who is complaining about the Mets exactly?

 

I predict we start seeing some articles being penned about how this could be bad for the game.

[mvp 78]

You think the vast majority of MLB fans are happy with what the Mets are doing? I just said most of the talk about the heavy spending by a handful of teams is not flattering. Do you disagree?

 

No, I don't see 4 teams spending like maniacs' as a good thing for MLB. My guess is the fans of 25-26 teams feel the same way.

 

I'm a fan of a team that isn't giving out big contracts and I think it's good for the game. The only people I see complaining about Steve Cohen are old has-beens like David Axelrod. No real person listens to what someone like that has to say.

[mvp 78]

I predict we start seeing some articles being penned about how this could be bad for the game.

 

George Will on line 2.

 

The Fun Police.

 

Fans don't give a s***.

[StephenCurry30]

I personally don’t give a golden retrievers ass what the Mets do. If the MLB doesn’t want a salary floor and cap, this is what happens. One team can spend $500 million while Pirates are being morons in last place

[Old Red]

I personally don’t give a golden retrievers ass what the Mets do. If the MLB doesn’t want a salary floor and cap, this is what happens. One team can spend $500 million while Pirates are being morons in last place

 

A floor, and a ceiling would be nice, but at least a floor.

[mvp 78]

A floor, and a ceiling would be nice, but at least a floor.

 

If Tampa can afford $75M, EVERY team can afford $75M.

[moonslav59]

I'm a fan of a team that isn't giving out big contracts and I think it's good for the game. The only people I see complaining about Steve Cohen are old has-beens like David Axelrod. No real person listens to what someone like that has to say.

 

If you listened to talk radio from every MLB city, like I do 24/7, you'd hear the complaining.

[mvp 78]

If you listened to talk radio from every MLB city, like I do 24/7, you'd hear the complaining.

 

Sports Radio takes? That's what we believe the average fan thinks now, moon? You fight Old Red about that incessantly...

 

C'mon, man...

[moonslav59]

Sports Radio takes? That's what we believe the average fan thinks now, moon? You fight Old Red about that incessantly...

 

C'mon, man...

 

Sarcasm on sarcasm will likely be missed by most posters.

[Old Red]

Sports Radio takes? That's what we believe the average fan thinks now, moon? You fight Old Red about that incessantly...

 

C'mon, man...

 

To me it’s about do you want to live in a small town, or a big town? Do you want a small sample size, or a big sample size? Could be quite different. For myself I like to get as many different opinions I can get. Others not so much.

[Bellhorn04]

To me it’s about do you want to live in a small town, or a big town? Do you want a small sample size, or a big sample size? Could be quite different. For myself I like to get as many different opinions I can get. Others not so much.

 

Personally, I don't have time to get everyone's opinion. Plus I think you get a pretty good range of opinions here.

[Old Red]

Personally, I don't have time to get everyone's opinion. Plus I think you get a pretty good range of opinions here.

If range is what you want yes. More topics are discussed on here than other places.

Edited December 21, 2022 by Old Red

[moonslav59]

Guess who signed Wil Myers to $7.5M/1 with incentives and a mutual option?

[mvp 78]

Guess who signed Wil Myers to $7.5M/1 with incentives and a mutual option?

 

You have no idea.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Personally, I don't have time to get everyone's opinion. Plus I think you get a pretty good range of opinions here.

 

And even Bloom would tell you that range can offset anyone trying to strong-arm you.

[moonslav59]

Bauer suspension reduce to time served.

 

Since we are the new Oakland Raiders: Devers for Bauer.

[Bellhorn04]

Bauer suspension reduce to time served.

 

Since we are the new Oakland Raiders: Devers for Bauer.

 

No, even the Raiders have to draw the line somewhere...

[redsoxrules]

Dodgers will probably release Bauer

[notin]

Dodgers will probably release Bauer

 

Hopefully they release him … into the Alaskan wilderness while wearing salmon-scented cologne and a suit made of bacon…