8/4 at Kansas City

[Thunder]

RHP Nick Pivetta (8-8, 4.47) vs LHP Kris Bubic (2-6, 5.45)

 

You guys do realize we still have a lot to play for, right?

[a700hitter]

RHP Nick Pivetta (8-8, 4.47) vs LHP Kris Bubic (2-6, 5.45)

 

You guys do realize we still have a lot to play for, right?

Pride?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

RHP Nick Pivetta (8-8, 4.47) vs LHP Kris Bubic (2-6, 5.45)

 

You guys do realize we still have a lot to play for, right?

 

Did you mean 'play' or 'pray?'

[Thunder]

Pride?

 

3 games out of a playoff spot and we just got our best player back. Just saying

[Bellhorn04]

Pride?

 

Don't forget fun.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 games out of a playoff spot and we just got our best player back. Just saying

 

I remember a cliche regarding bowling: If you can do it with a pencil, you can do it with a bowling ball. So what you've posted is possible.

[Thunder]

I will lose interest in baseball on September 11, week 1 of the NFL season, just like I do every year (including last year - although I obviously came back to baseball for the playoffs)

 

But, I'm simply pointing out that it really isn't as bad as some of the people on here might have us believe. If we can start winning division games, we will make the playoffs (largely because doing so will mean beating the teams ahead of us in the WC standings)

[JDavis76]

I will lose interest in baseball on September 11, week 1 of the NFL season, just like I do every year (including last year - although I obviously came back to baseball for the playoffs)

 

But, I'm simply pointing out that it really isn't as bad as some of the people on here might have us believe. If we can start winning division games, we will make the playoffs (largely because doing so will mean beating the teams ahead of us in the WC standings)

 

Well I do play Powerball so hard to argue with that.....

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I will lose interest in baseball on September 11, week 1 of the NFL season, just like I do every year (including last year - although I obviously came back to baseball for the playoffs)

 

But, I'm simply pointing out that it really isn't as bad as some of the people on here might have us believe. If we can start winning division games, we will make the playoffs (largely because doing so will mean beating the teams ahead of us in the WC standings)

 

Going forward, the Red Sox should have a better starting line-up with Hosmer, Pham and McGuire than Franchy, JBJ and Vazquez. And a better bullpen without Diekman...

 

Who disagrees?

[Thunder]

Going forward, the Red Sox should have a better starting line-up with Hosmer, Pham and McGuire than Franchy, JBJ and Vazquez. And a better bullpen without Diekman...

 

Who disagrees?

 

Franchy hit a walk off grand slam that I witnessed in person so I can't give an unbiased opinion on this... But I do agree with you

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Franchy hit a walk off grand slam that I witnessed in person so I can't give an unbiased opinion on this... But I do agree with you

 

I witnessed Shaw do that last summer! Maybe the only better walk-off would be an inside-the-park salami -- Roberto Clemente supposedly did that once. That would be a run-off...

[jung]

RHP Nick Pivetta (8-8, 4.47) vs LHP Kris Bubic (2-6, 5.45)

 

You guys do realize we still have a lot to play for, right?

 

Tell that to the guy that just traded away the team's front line catcher at the deadline.

[jung]

Going forward, the Red Sox should have a better starting line-up with Hosmer, Pham and McGuire than Franchy, JBJ and Vazquez. And a better bullpen without Diekman...

 

Who disagrees?

 

 

A better lineup...possibly, a better shot at going anywhere? NOPE.....you don't trade away your front line catcher if you think you are going anywhere. That guy has your pitching staff in his hands. Who has that now......Dollar Store Stroker with the sticky steering wheel?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

A better lineup...possibly, a better shot at going anywhere? NOPE.....you don't trade away your front line catcher if you think you are going anywhere. That guy has your pitching staff in his hands. Who has that now......Dollar Store Stroker with the sticky steering wheel?

 

All we are saying... is give Reese a chance.

[jung]

All we are saying... is give Reese a chance.

 

To do what exactly. Its not like McGuire is an unknown quantity. Plus he has to learn this pitching staff and the staff has to get used to him.

[vegasbob]

Going forward, the Red Sox should have a better starting line-up with Hosmer, Pham and McGuire than Franchy, JBJ and Vazquez. And a better bullpen without Diekman...

 

Who disagrees?

 

Addition by subtraction. A mentor once told me that poor performers will drag you down more by hanging around than if they are just gone . I do not think Vaz was a poor performer and actually helped this team stay at .500 .

[oldtimer]

Going forward, the Red Sox should have a better starting line-up with Hosmer, Pham and McGuire than Franchy, JBJ and Vazquez. And a better bullpen without Diekman...

 

Who disagrees?

I'd rather have Vazquez in the lineup than McGuire. I notice Duran is starting tonight instead of Dugo. Is Dugo being rested?

[jung]

Addition by subtraction. A mentor once told me that poor performers will drag you down more by hanging around than if they are just gone . I do not think Vaz was a poor performer and actually helped this team stay at .500 .

 

Best move Bloom made this year: DFA for JBJ

 

Worst move Bloom made this year: trading Renfro for JBJ

 

For all his faults Renfro is at least a MLB player. JBJ is a late innings replacement at best and apparently, the Sox no longer think he is even that.

[moonslav59]

Best move Bloom made this year: DFA for JBJ

 

Worst move Bloom made this year: trading Renfro for JBJ

 

For all his faults Renfro is at least a MLB player. JBJ is a late innings replacement at best and apparently, the Sox no longer think he is even that.

 

Best move:

Getting Schreiber off waivers

 

Second best:

Signing Refsynder to a minor league deal

 

Third best:

Signing Wacha and Strahm, both of whom have already earned their pay.

 

Fourth best:

Finding someone to take Diekman's contract and amazingly give us a catcher with 2+ years of team control.

 

5th, 6th, and 7th are so minor and bunched, I'm not sure it matters where we rank them:

 

Getting Hosmer for min wage.

Getting two rising prospects for 2 months of Vaz.

DFA'ing JBJ, Robles & Shaw.

Signing Danish to peanuts.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Best move:

Getting Schreiber off waivers

 

Second best:

Signing Refsynder to a minor league deal

 

Third best:

Signing Wacha and Strahm, both of whom have already earned their pay.

 

Fourth best:

Finding someone to take Diekman's contract and amazingly give us a catcher with 2+ years of team control.

 

5th, 6th, and 7th are so minor and bunched, I'm not sure it matters where we rank them:

 

Getting Hosmer for min wage.

Getting two rising prospects for 2 months of Vaz.

DFA'ing JBJ, Robles & Shaw.

Signing Danish to peanuts.

 

Wacha? Who's he?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Wacha? Who's he?

 

 

I just looked him up on Google. I'd forgotten he's a SOX pitcher. Thank goodness for the internet.

[jung]

Best move:

Getting Schreiber off waivers

 

Second best:

Signing Refsynder to a minor league deal

 

Third best:

Signing Wacha and Strahm, both of whom have already earned their pay.

 

Fourth best:

Finding someone to take Diekman's contract and amazingly give us a catcher with 2+ years of team control.

 

5th, 6th, and 7th are so minor and bunched, I'm not sure it matters where we rank them:

 

Getting Hosmer for min wage.

Getting two rising prospects for 2 months of Vaz.

DFA'ing JBJ, Robles & Shaw.

Signing Danish to peanuts.

 

Thats Kyle Schwarber. I don't know who Schreiber is.

 

Frankly I am less impressed with moves at the deadline than actual trades before the deadline or in the off season. Trades at the deadline can often simply represent a MLB wide understanding of a massive weakness on one team that is recognized by the entirety of MLB including somebody that absolutely positively has to move a player....like Hosmer from SD to Boston.

 

 

Wacha and Strahm....not bad.

 

Problem with the McGuire deal is that McGuire is not going to amaze anybody.

 

Two rising prospects for Vaz. Great...not sure they are rising very far and trading away your front line catcher means you have given up on the year....no matter what blather comes out of Bloom's mouth.

 

Blooms model is an efficiency model. Beane's mode is also an efficiency model. Neither are WS ring models. Has Beane won one of these things for all of his years of spread sheeting? Did Bloom win one in Tampa? I do think Bloom's model favors pitching which I think is a good thing. Beane's model appears to just value players without a bias toward pitching. That said both are efficiency models which I simply don't think match the assets and championship capabilities of a big market team like the Boston Red Sox. I think we are just setting ourselves up for years of eating Yankee exhaust, years of Red Sox mediocrity. Somewhere along the way, if enough of Bloom's bevy of flotsam and jetsam of prospects "bloom" we might make a real run....if not....not.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Hosmer begins his short career with the SOX at the place where his ML baseball career started. How ironic.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The Royals have Boob Itch and the SOX have Bra Man. How ironic.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

DEVERS DEliVERS!

[bmattioli]

With Bloom at the helm JBJ will be in Spring Training you watch..

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Pivettaboutit!

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

An opposing team can run all day against CERA king Plawecki.

[vegasbob]

Sometimes I'd like to Fuggedabout Pivettabout. Why is Plawecki catching ? I thought we bought ourselves a shiny new player.?

[iortiz]

Thats Kyle Schwarber. I don't know who Schreiber is.

 

Frankly I am less impressed with moves at the deadline than actual trades before the deadline or in the off season. Trades at the deadline can often simply represent a MLB wide understanding of a massive weakness on one team that is recognized by the entirety of MLB including somebody that absolutely positively has to move a player....like Hosmer from SD to Boston.

 

 

Wacha and Strahm....not bad.

 

Problem with the McGuire deal is that McGuire is not going to amaze anybody.

 

Two rising prospects for Vaz. Great...not sure they are rising very far and trading away your front line catcher means you have given up on the year....no matter what blather comes out of Bloom's mouth.

 

Blooms model is an efficiency model. Beane's mode is also an efficiency model. Neither are WS ring models. Has Beane won one of these things for all of his years of spread sheeting? Did Bloom win one in Tampa? I do think Bloom's model favors pitching which I think is a good thing. Beane's model appears to just value players without a bias toward pitching. That said both are efficiency models which I simply don't think match the assets and championship capabilities of a big market team like the Boston Red Sox. I think we are just setting ourselves up for years of eating Yankee exhaust, years of Red Sox mediocrity. Somewhere along the way, if enough of Bloom's bevy of flotsam and jetsam of prospects "bloom" we might make a real run....if not....not.

I always enjoy reading your assessments jung, regardless I agree or not. Thank you. Heck of a poster here.