Fire Bloom .

[jacksonianmarch]

Reading that Bloom doesn't regret regarding the moves before the trade line.

 

Not sure how to take this since this team was not going to go anywhere anyways.

 

He can't regret his moves from 3 weeks back. It would cause him to get killed even more. But his moves (or lack thereof) are indefensible IMO. You either sell or you add. You dont take a team that's out of the POs and sinking fast and stall. You either reinforce or take apart, especially with so many rentals

[Red Foreman]

Funny thing is that he isn't even our GM.

[JDavis76]

Not only is hang 'em chaim a terrible baseball executive, he's also a cheap bastard!

 

https://www.outkick.com/red-sox-cbo-chaim-bloom-pledges-100-for-every-win-and-gets-roasted/

[Old Red]

5 games under 500. 6 games back of the O’s in the L column for last place in the Div, and 10 games back in the L column for the Last Wild Card spot. ENOUGH SAID!

[notin]

Not only is hang 'em chaim a terrible baseball executive, he's also a cheap bastard!

 

https://www.outkick.com/red-sox-cbo-chaim-bloom-pledges-100-for-every-win-and-gets-roasted/

 

Did you pledge more?

[JDavis76]

Did you pledge more?

 

Not one of the charities that I donate to, but I do donate more than that annually.

 

But that doesn't change the fact that he's cheap.....

[moonslav59]

Just repeating something I read. Since it is so important to you. You really should write that author I am sure he will give your letter the attention it deserves.

 

For one who preaches accountability and responsibility, you're pretty good at passing the buck.

[moonslav59]

He can't regret his moves from 3 weeks back. It would cause him to get killed even more. But his moves (or lack thereof) are indefensible IMO. You either sell or you add. You dont take a team that's out of the POs and sinking fast and stall. You either reinforce or take apart, especially with so many rentals

 

That's how I felt, but I guess criticizing Bloom for the opposite reasons is somehow translated into carrying his jock.

[JDavis76]

That's how I felt, but I guess criticizing Bloom for the opposite reasons is somehow translated into carrying his jock.

 

Liar

[Elktonnick]

For one who preaches accountability and responsibility, you're pretty good at passing the buck.

 

What are you prattling about now? Even when you keep it short you make no sense.

[Bellhorn04]

For the record I am a Bloom agnostic. I am neither for nor against him.

 

In retrospect this is one of the funniest posts on the thread. (Posted on August 4.)

[moonslav59]

In retrospect this is one of the funniest posts on the thread. (Posted on August 4.)

 

Yes, as a joke.

[Elktonnick]

In retrospect this is one of the funniest posts on the thread. (Posted on August 4.)

It was true at the time. But soon evidence of Bloom"s utter incompetence became too obvious except for the most obtuse to ignore.

Take last night's game for example. A man on third no outs two innings in a row and they fail to score. Only an incompetent executive constructs a team as impotent as that. And Bloom still insists he has no regrets about his moves at the trade deadline.

[notin]

It was true at the time. But soon evidence of Bloom"s utter incompetence became too obvious except for the most obtuse to ignore.

Take last night's game for example. A man on third no outs two innings in a row and they fail to score. Only an incompetent executive constructs a team as impotent as that. And Bloom still insists he has no regrets about his moves at the trade deadline.

 

Right. No team in history has ever done that before.

 

Didn’t Epstein’s Red Sox have similar frustrations back in the 2005 ALDS against the White Sox?

[Elktonnick]

Right. No team in history has ever done that before.

 

Didn’t Epstein’s Red Sox have similar frustrations back in the 2005 ALDS against the White Sox?

ALDS!!! The closest any from this Bloom.team will get to the ALDS is on their television set unless Bloom DFAs someone.

[notin]

ALDS!!! The closest any from this Bloom.team will get to the ALDS is on their television set unless Bloom DFAs someone.

 

You missed the point.

 

Yes last night was frustrating. But that kind of thing does happen. Blaming it on the GM as being “poorly constructed” when this team had injury replacements at 1b, 2b, cf and RF speaks more about the frustration and desire to blame this about the team..

[Bellhorn04]

You missed the point.

 

He didn't miss the point, he deflected.

[Elktonnick]

You missed the point.

 

Yes last night was frustrating. But that kind of thing does happen. Blaming it on the GM as being “poorly constructed” when this team had injury replacements at 1b, 2b, cf and RF speaks more about the frustration and desire to blame this about the team..

I did.not miss the point at all. Bloom deconstructed s contending team in the off season. He made the team worse at the trade deadline. They have losing record since then.

 

To blame their current state on injuries is denying the obvious. Bloom has made a mess of this season, creating a team of.mismatched socks (pardon the pun) with a questionable future without major acquisitions next off season.

[Bellhorn04]

I did.not miss the point at all. Bloom deconstructed s contending team in the off season. He made the team worse at the trade deadline. They have losing record since then.

 

To blame their current state on injuries is denying the obvious. Bloom has made a mess of this season, creating a team of.mismatched socks (pardon the pun) with a questionable future without major acquisitions next off season.

 

This season is a mess, without a doubt, and much of it does fall on Bloom.

 

There will be major acquisitions, book it.

[moonslav59]

You missed the point.

 

Yes last night was frustrating. But that kind of thing does happen. Blaming it on the GM as being “poorly constructed” when this team had injury replacements at 1b, 2b, cf and RF speaks more about the frustration and desire to blame this about the team..

 

So, I suppose one of Bloom's biggest mistakes was not to trade away almost all of DD's players right before they declines, and he should have foreseen the exact moment of decline and gotten the best he could for all of them, yet when he traded Vaz 2 months before he becomes a FA, he is roundly bashed for doing so and ruining team morale.

[moonslav59]

This season is a mess, without a doubt, and much of it does fall on Bloom.

 

There will be major acquisitions, book it.

 

Henry is not dumb. IMO, he probably demands big moves and maybe at least one purposely flashy move will be made.

[Bellhorn04]

So, I suppose one of Bloom's biggest mistakes was not to trade away almost all of DD's players right before they declines, and he should have foreseen the exact moment of decline and gotten the best he could for all of them, yet when he traded Vaz 2 months before he becomes a FA, he is roundly bashed for doing so and ruining team morale.

 

He was in a classic no-win situation at the deadline.

 

According to Alex Speier, Bloom did put JD and Eovaldi on the market, but he was asking for a big return, and he didn't get any bites.

[Bellhorn04]

Henry is not dumb. IMO, he probably demands big moves and maybe at least one purposely flashy move will be made.

 

Step One to get the fans back a little is to announce an extension with Devers.

[JDavis76]

So, I suppose one of Bloom's biggest mistakes was not to trade away almost all of DD's players right before they declines, and he should have foreseen the exact moment of decline and gotten the best he could for all of them, yet when he traded Vaz 2 months before he becomes a FA, he is roundly bashed for doing so and ruining team morale.

 

I think it has more to do with his halfway approach than it does with trading vaz.

 

If orlando had traded vaz, eo and jd (and xbo if he's not going to be re-signed), then I think people would be less upset because it would at least look like there is a plan in place.

 

The half sell, half buy approach just added fuel to the fire that orlando doesn't know what he is doing.

[Elktonnick]

He was in a classic no-win situation at the deadline.

 

According to Alex Speier, Bloom did put JD and Eovaldi on the market, but he was asking for a big return, and he didn't get any bites.

It was a no win situation because Bloom boxed himself in by not making moves in the off season. Hence the criticism of having no sense of urgency and grumbling in the clubhouse about his not improving the team enough when he had s chance to do so.. Face it this was a situation of Blooms own making.

[JDavis76]

He was in a classic no-win situation at the deadline.

 

According to Alex Speier, Bloom did put JD and Eovaldi on the market, but he was asking for a big return, and he didn't get any bites.

 

And that's on orlando for failing to gauge the market correctly......

[Bellhorn04]

It was a no win situation because Bloom boxed himself in by not making moves in the off season. Hence the criticism of having no sense of urgency and grumbling in the clubhouse about his not improving the team enough when he had s chance to do so.. Face it this was a situation of Blooms own making.

 

And what if he did make moves at the deadline and we still miss the playoffs? Then we're even worse off.

 

The people who say he should have had a fire sale are undoubtedly correct. I wasn't for it, because I thought we still had an outside shot. At the deadline we still thought Sale would be back and Paxton would also be coming. The best laid plans of mice and men and so on.

[JDavis76]

And what if he did make moves at the deadline and we still miss the playoffs? Then we're even worse off.

 

The people who say he should have had a fire sale are undoubtedly correct. I wasn't for it, because I thought we still had an outside shot. At the deadline we still thought Sale would be back and Paxton would also be coming. The best laid plans of mice and men and so on.

 

Well, at least he would have had what could be viewed as a clearly defined plan - to go for it (not that I would agree that this team was in any position to go for it).

 

His half-buy, half-sell approach makes him look lost and indecisive.

[moonslav59]

Step One to get the fans back a little is to announce an extension with Devers.

 

Agreed.

 

Let's make "Devers Forevers" a reality!

[Elktonnick]

And what if he did make moves at the deadline and we still miss the playoffs? Then we're even worse off.

 

The people who say he should have had a fire sale are undoubtedly correct. I wasn't for it, because I thought we still had an outside shot. At the deadline we still thought Sale would be back and Paxton would also be coming. The best laid plans of mice and men and so on.

What you are saying is implicate recognition of Bloom incompetnce. Bloom failed at virtually every stage of the 2022 season. Moreover I do not think he has placed the Red Sox in the best place to make the moves needed to be a contender in 23 despite all the money coming off the books.