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Broadcast today said 3-13-1 in their last 17 home series. That’s all kinds of troubling. Cora 2.0 has his work cut out for him it seems. I remain optimistic they can turn it around. But a somewhat unsettling start to the season to be sure.
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Does anyone seriously think this team is good enough to make the playoffs..........in the ACC ?

 

ACC? Maybe.

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Broadcast today said 3-13-1 in their last 17 home series. That’s all kinds of troubling. Cora 2.0 has his work cut out for him it seems. I remain optimistic they can turn it around. But a somewhat unsettling start to the season to be sure.

 

Alex Speier

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In the wild card era, 18 percent of teams that got off to an 0-3 start reached the playoffs. The Red Sox are not among them- they’ve never made the playoffs after an 0-3 star

 

The law of averages is on our side!

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Alex Speier

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In the wild card era, 18 percent of teams that got off to an 0-3 start reached the playoffs. The Red Sox are not among them- they’ve never made the playoffs after an 0-3 star

 

The law of averages is on our side!

Law of averages is that the Sox are unlikely to make the playoffs since only 18% do.

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Alex Speier

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In the wild card era, 18 percent of teams that got off to an 0-3 start reached the playoffs. The Red Sox are not among them- they’ve never made the playoffs after an 0-3 star

 

The law of averages is on our side!

 

So you’re saying there’s a chance....lol

 

I still believe. But this was not the ideal start. Long season though and lots of time.

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So you’re saying there’s a chance....lol

 

I still believe. But this was not the ideal start. Long season though and lots of time.

 

What makes this start all the more disconcerting is that they went 0-3 not against the Yankees but purportedly the worst team in the division, the Orioles.

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What makes this start all the more disconcerting is that they went 0-3 not against the Yankees but purportedly the worst team in the division, the Orioles.

 

No denying it. Hopefully a “playing to your competition” blip. And sometimes the underdogs come out pissed when everyone writes them off.

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Broadcast today said 3-13-1 in their last 17 home series. That’s all kinds of troubling. Cora 2.0 has his work cut out for him it seems. I remain optimistic they can turn it around. But a somewhat unsettling start to the season to be sure.

 

Cora is too busy preaching peace and unity. Someone should tell him he was hired to coach.

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Cora is too busy preaching peace and unity. Someone should tell him he was hired to coach.

 

When the only tool Cora has is a hammer...

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What makes this start all the more disconcerting is that they went 0-3 not against the Yankees but purportedly the worst team in the division, the Orioles.

 

Beat me to it.

 

The Sox made the Orioles look really, really good.

 

Chris Sale could return and lose 3-0 just like everybody else in the rotation.

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Not to be outdone, the Oakland Athletics, who were a solid 36-24 last season, have opened the 2021 season losing four straight at home with a negative 26 run differential.

 

The Red Sox are 0-3 at home with a negative 13 run differential.

 

It's early.

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Not to be outdone, the Oakland Athletics, who were a solid 36-24 last season, have opened the 2021 season losing four straight at home with a negative 26 run differential.

 

The Red Sox are 0-3 at home with a negative 13 run differential.

 

It's early.

Harmony do you think the west is nearly as difficult as The AL east ? I guess I’m not of the same opinion .

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What makes this start all the more disconcerting is that they went 0-3 not against the Yankees but purportedly the worst team in the division, the Orioles.

 

What’s disconcerting is in the losses, they stuggled hitting. We knew pitching would be rough. We knew fielding could be. But we hoped hitting was going to work.

 

It didn’t. They probably pitched better than they hit...

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Every club has players who have hot starts and cold starts. So a major concern shouldn't be that, besides JD's good weekend, Cedric Mullins has as many hits after three games as the rest of the Red Sox TEAM. The concern shouldn't even be Dalbec, Renfroe and Cordero going 0-for-22 with 11 strikeouts -- because that's who they are. The concern should be that these are the guys management decided would be your 2021 Sox.

 

Utility men like Kike and Marwin are great assets on a contending team, but it's unfair to expect them to be top players in a lineup with very few quality regulars. This ballclub is bereft of all-around talent. The point of keeping a superstar like Mookie isn't that he alone would make Boston a playoff team last year or any year; but the Sox would have had a better chance to win every single game he played in, now and going forward... and fans would have a better shot at being entertained.

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Cold weather hitting is always tough. I wish the northern clubs could all start their seasons on a 2 week warm weather road trip. I think the biggest surprise from me on the Sox putrid start was the competition. The O’s are gonna be historically bad and the Sox got swept by them. If the Sox get swept vs the Jays or Rays, no biggie. Vs the O’s at home, that’s bad
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Not to be outdone, the Oakland Athletics, who were a solid 36-24 last season, have opened the 2021 season losing four straight at home with a negative 26 run differential.

 

The Red Sox are 0-3 at home with a negative 13 run differential.

 

It's early.

 

The Braves scored a total of 3 runs in their first 3 games. One would hope ST would prepare hitters better.

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Cold weather hitting is always tough. I wish the northern clubs could all start their seasons on a 2 week warm weather road trip. I think the biggest surprise from me on the Sox putrid start was the competition. The O’s are gonna be historically bad and the Sox got swept by them. If the Sox get swept vs the Jays or Rays, no biggie. Vs the O’s at home, that’s bad

 

Thanks for the update! So... not sure I'm following your incredible insight? You're telling us it's 'bad' to lose to what most mlb observers think is a poor O's team?

 

IDK??? I was leaning toward it being a good thing? A bonding situation where a ragtag group of barely has been 2nd & 3rd tier players slapped together by Bloom would have the opportunity to bond over adversity early, thus developing a team that loses gracefully and build thick skin to weather a losing season in Boston.

 

ok... I think I hear where you are coming from? Definitely not a good thing to lose to s*** teams. In fact, I'm pretty much sold on your assessment of it being bad.

 

Well thought out! Well stated!

 

How are the Yankees doing with respect to this brilliant and insightful mlb assessment?

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It's 3 games.

3 games.

Just 3 games.

3.

Games.

Three!

 

So it's too early to do web searches on "worst start ever"?

 

Because this is fun reading:

 

The 1988 Baltimore Orioles had the worst start to a season in modern American baseball history. The Orioles finished 7th in the American League East, reduced to a record of 54 wins and 107 losses just five seasons after winning the World Series. The season is most notable for the 0–21 start that lasted from April 4th to April 28th.[1] Manager Cal Ripken, Sr. was fired after an 0–6 start and replaced by Hall of Famer Frank Robinson. The Orioles won their first game of the year against the Chicago White Sox at Comiskey Park on April 29.[2] The most runs allowed during the season was 15 in a game on June 19 while the most runs scored was 12 in a game on May 31.[1] Orioles owner Edward Bennett Williams died in August of that year.

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So it's too early to do web searches on "worst start ever"?

 

Because this is fun reading:

 

The 1988 Baltimore Orioles had the worst start to a season in modern American baseball history. The Orioles finished 7th in the American League East, reduced to a record of 54 wins and 107 losses just five seasons after winning the World Series. The season is most notable for the 0–21 start that lasted from April 4th to April 28th.[1] Manager Cal Ripken, Sr. was fired after an 0–6 start and replaced by Hall of Famer Frank Robinson. The Orioles won their first game of the year against the Chicago White Sox at Comiskey Park on April 29.[2] The most runs allowed during the season was 15 in a game on June 19 while the most runs scored was 12 in a game on May 31.[1] Orioles owner Edward Bennett Williams died in August of that year.

 

That was a team that was decent offensively (Ripken, Murray, Lynn, Tettleton, Orsulak), but that rotation was horrible aside from Boddicker.

 

Wade Rowdon had a -43 OPS+ in 30 AB's. I'm not sure I've noticed an OPS+ lower than that.

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That was a team that was decent offensively (Ripken, Murray, Lynn, Tettleton, Orsulak), but that rotation was horrible aside from Boddicker.

 

Wade Rowdon had a -43 OPS+ in 30 AB's. I'm not sure I've noticed an OPS+ lower than that.

 

Soft-tossing lefty Jeff Ballard went 18-8 3.43 the following season. Harmony will eventually tell is Ballard was part of a rotation at Stanford than included Jack McDowell and Mike Mussina... ;)

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this is simply a poorly constructed team. versatility is nice, but this is ridiculous. If Kike was an asset he would still be in la. How many yrs of devers defense is gonna take? taking flyers on half the pitchers. this is really dire and understood its only 3 games but its painfully obvious
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this is simply a poorly constructed team. versatility is nice, but this is ridiculous. If Kike was an asset he would still be in la. How many yrs of devers defense is gonna take? taking flyers on half the pitchers. this is really dire and understood its only 3 games but its painfully obvious

 

He was absolutely an asset in LA. But they have a budget, too, and spent their allowance on Betts and will have to deal with a Bellinger contract situation shortly. And figure out what to do about Corey Seager. No way they were going to spend that kind of cash on Hernandez...

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I'm willing to bet money that we will start better than the 3-9 start we had in 2019

 

The Sox would have to go 4-5 in their next 9 games for this to happen. I think you can find a taker...

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