2021 Prospects

[moonslav59]

I don't think guys should be pushed, that's not very nice and violence is never the answer.

 

Ok,but, I think it's more of a function of guys showing you they're ready. The Sox never pushed Mookie, he just started mashing and they really had no choice but to push him. Guys will tell you when they're ready and it's not all stats, there's other things they're looking at too but if a guy is putting up video game stats for a long duration it's hard to imagine what else they could ever learn at a level.

 

I don't think Yorke gets to the majors before Downs. He's in low, not high A. He still has to get to Greenville, Portland, and Worcester before reaching Boston while Downs just has to get up to the next level. Even if Downs is a bust I could still see him getting the majors sooner if a guy gets injured or they need the depth option on a bench role. Downs will likely be added to the 40 man by year's end so, you probably see him in some capacity next season. York, if he mashes, I don't think you see him in 2022. The earliest we see Yorke is mid-2023 I think. But I could be wrong.

 

Downs will not be called up, if he remains near .600.

[mvp 78]

Devers hit 773 in Low A in 2015. He was up in Boston in 2017.

 

If Yorke is promoted this year and continues to rake, I could see him start next year in Portland. If he hits well there, he could be called up to Boston at any point.

 

Right now, Downs is struggling. It's not unreasonable to believe he could struggle next year too.

[Hugh2]

Downs will not be called up, if he remains near .600.

 

Not likley but he will be on the 40 man next year, so if they need a guy for a day or two who can man a position he's likely to get a call. They won't be calling him up to stay with the team but will he get a call up for depth? absolutely.

 

You also have to consider that's highly plausible he's hitting much better next year.

 

Yorke might end up having a better career than Downs, but I think Downs sniffs the majors first in some capacity.

[Hugh2]

Devers hit 773 in Low A in 2015. He was up in Boston in 2017.

 

If Yorke is promoted this year and continues to rake, I could see him start next year in Portland. If he hits well there, he could be called up to Boston at any point.

 

Right now, Downs is struggling. It's not unreasonable to believe he could struggle next year too.

 

 

I get what you're saying. But if your example is one of the best offensive players in all of the baseball then let's realize that's the exception and not the norm. There is a much larger list of guys who smashed the baseball in Low A and didn't fly up to the majors in two years. Even with that timeline, I think you see Downs next year. Maybe he doesn't become good enough to be an everyday staple in the Sox lineup but I think you see him in Boston in some capactiy. Even if it's just as a depth option.

[mvp 78]

I get what you're saying. But if your example is one of the best offensive players in all of the baseball then let's realize that's the exception and not the norm. There is a much larger list of guys who smashed the baseball in Low A and didn't fly up to the majors in two years. Even with that timeline, I think you see Downs next year. Maybe he doesn't become good enough to be an everyday staple in the Sox lineup but I think you see him in Boston in some capactiy. Even if it's just as a depth option.

 

I'm not saying it's a sure thing, I'm just saying it's a possiblity.

 

Benintendi was drafted in 2015 and playing Boston in 2016. It can happen quickly.

[mvp 78]

@SoxProspects

Blaze Jordan went 3-for-3 with two doubles (6), a home run (3), and three RBI (18) in the FCL Red Sox's 6-1 win today. The 18-year-old third baseman is now slashing .322/.359/.610 over 64 plate appearances.

 

Does Blaze get to Salem this year?

[moonslav59]

Not likley but he will be on the 40 man next year, so if they need a guy for a day or two who can man a position he's likely to get a call. They won't be calling him up to stay with the team but will he get a call up for depth? absolutely.

 

You also have to consider that's highly plausible he's hitting much better next year.

 

Yorke might end up having a better career than Downs, but I think Downs sniffs the majors first in some capacity.

 

Of course he may hit better or much better than .600. I expect him to.

 

I only said Jeter will not be called up if he keeps hitting .600.

 

He will be added to the 40 man, this winter.

Edited July 27, 2021 by moonslav59

[Fan_since_Boggs]

@SoxProspects

Blaze Jordan went 3-for-3 with two doubles (6), a home run (3), and three RBI (18) in the FCL Red Sox's 6-1 win today. The 18-year-old third baseman is now slashing .322/.359/.610 over 64 plate appearances.

 

Does Blaze get to Salem this year?

 

Nice! I don't know what the plan is with Blaze but he has such a high ceiling and it is nice to see him start hitting. He could be a top prospect in a couple of years. Yorke, Blaze, and Mayer -- an awesome group of young infielders.

[Hugh2]

I wonder when they're going to get Groome back out on the Mound? I know he's had a very good reason for missing a few starts but I hope to see him continue his great season.

[moonslav59]

40+ IP

 

.517 Wu-Yelland (Sal)

.571 Blalock (Sal)

.571 Cobb (Sal)

.609 Crawford (Por)

.621 DiValerio (Salem)

.628 Walter (Gre>Sal)

.635 Bello (Gre>Por)

.646 Reyes (Por)

.658 Winckowski (Por-leads pitchers in IP with 69)

.685 Kwiatkowski (Salem)

.688 Espinal (Wor)

.690 Spacke (Gre)

.698 Groome (Gre)

 

Other notables (under 40 IP, unless noted)

.568 Scherff

.650 Bryant

.694 Ort

.755 Drohan (48)

.760 Feltman

.775 German (54)

.781 Walden

.784 Gonsalves (58)

.786 Murphy (63)

.807 Politi (59)

.831 Wallace

 

[mvp 78]

Peter Gammons:

 

Agency for Boston’s 2d round draft choice Florida CF Jud Fabian isn’t signing. Two teams behind Bostonntalked $3m before draft, Sox not going to 3

[a700hitter]

Peter Gammons:

 

Agency for Boston’s 2d round draft choice Florida CF Jud Fabian isn’t signing. Two teams behind Bostonntalked $3m before draft, Sox not going to 3

I thought Bloom's strength was building the farm.

[Hugh2]

I thought Bloom's strength was building the farm.

 

You do realize the deadline has not passed yet, or rather, are you suggesting the validity of PGammo Tweets are highly accurate and have absolutely zero grammatical errors ever?

[a700hitter]

You do realize the deadline has not passed yet, or rather, are you suggesting the validity of PGammo Tweets are highly accurate and have absolutely zero grammatical errors ever?

You are reading my post the wrong way.

[Hugh2]

You are reading my post the wrong way.

 

I interpreted your post to imply Bloom took a blow to his "building the farm" persona by suggesting they will not sign Fabian.

 

If I read it wrong please clarify this for me.

 

I'm merely suggesting we wait until after the signing deadline. This is coming from Fabians camp and can easily be tactic to try and up Bostons offer.

 

 

 

If the Sox are sitting at 2.3 million and won't budge I will blame them, but if they up the offer to 2.67 max and he blinks then I blame Fabian. If he's turning down anything at 2.5 million or more then that means the Sox opting to sign Hickey/Kavadas and take their chances with the 41st pick in next year's draft. If Fabian comes back as a senior and even only marginally improves his numbers he's going to make a lot less money. The kid is taking a huge risk turning down the money and the Sox are opting to spread the money to other players and walk away with 41 next year.

 

I don't think it's more probable than not he signs but I don't think it's 100% done deal he doesn't sign yet. Not until August 1st.

[moonslav59]

If we do not sign Fabian, we will get a comp pick next year.

 

It would suck, but it does not mean Bloom messed up or that all is lost.

[mvp 78]

If we do not sign Fabian, we will get a comp pick next year.

 

It would suck, but it does not mean Bloom messed up or that all is lost.

 

How does it impact the slot money for this draft if he remains unsigned?

[Hugh2]

How does it impact the slot money for this draft if he remains unsigned?

 

We lose the slot value + 5% overage which equates to 1,949,535 dollars. Which means we have about 1.15 million left to spend. Hickey is reportedly looking for above slot and knows he can get it if Fabian isn’t signing which means that money probably goes to him and Kavadas.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

If we do not sign Fabian, we will get a comp pick next year.

 

Missing out on Fabian might end up being a positive development. Who knows....

[a700hitter]

I interpreted your post to imply Bloom took a blow to his "building the farm" persona by suggesting they will not sign Fabian.

 

If I read it wrong please clarify this for me.

 

I'm merely suggesting we wait until after the signing deadline. This is coming from Fabians camp and can easily be tactic to try and up Bostons offer.

 

 

 

If the Sox are sitting at 2.3 million and won't budge I will blame them, but if they up the offer to 2.67 max and he blinks then I blame Fabian. If he's turning down anything at 2.5 million or more then that means the Sox opting to sign Hickey/Kavadas and take their chances with the 41st pick in next year's draft. If Fabian comes back as a senior and even only marginally improves his numbers he's going to make a lot less money. The kid is taking a huge risk turning down the money and the Sox are opting to spread the money to other players and walk away with 41 next year.

 

I don't think it's more probable than not he signs but I don't think it's 100% done deal he doesn't sign yet. Not until August 1st.

I just stated what Bloom’s strength is thought to be. You put your own spin on that statement.

[Hugh2]

I just stated what Bloom’s strength is thought to be. You put your own spin on that statement.

 

So you don't think Blooms strength is bringing young talent into the organization?

[Hugh2]

I just stated what Bloom’s strength is thought to be. You put your own spin on that statement.

 

"I thought Bloom's strength was building the farm."

 

That was your statement. One would infer that you're suggesting the gaffe of not signing a guy would imply that's not his strength. Or, perhaps you still do believe that and were just making a joke. I'm not really sure what spin I put on anything other than the facts of the situation.

[a700hitter]

"I thought Bloom's strength was building the farm."

 

That was your statement. One would infer that you're suggesting the gaffe of not signing a guy would imply that's not his strength. Or, perhaps you still do believe that and were just making a joke. I'm not really sure what spin I put on anything other than the facts of the situation.

Your inference was incorrect.

[Hugh2]

Your inference was incorrect.

 

So then you think Bloom has shown strength at building the farm. Ok, I was wrong, my bad.

[a700hitter]

So then you think Bloom has shown strength at building the farm. Ok, I was wrong, my bad.

Okay. NP

 

But I also didn’t say that I thought he has shown strength at building the farm. Again, your spin.

[mvp 78]

@SoxProspects

Miguel Bleis went 1-for-2 with a stolen base in his debut with the DSL Red Sox Red before being lifted for a pinch runner. The 17-year-old Bleis signed for $1,500,000 as an International free agent in January, and is currently 35th on the #SP60.

[moonslav59]

All upper levels rained out.

 

Salem:

 

Drohan went 5 IP

 

0 H

 

0 BB

 

4 Ks

[mvp 78]

@SoxProspects

Kutter Crawford left his Worcester debut with a line of 6 IP, 9 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 5 K.

@WooSox trail 3-0 in the top of the eighth inning. Crawford is currently 52nd on the #SP60.

[mvp 78]

Jeter Down's OPS is now at 584.

[mvp 78]

Yairo Munoz has a 20 game hit streak. Yorke has reached base in 29 straight.

 

Player of the Day: The SoxProspects.com June Pitcher of the Month, Brandon Walter struggled in his first three outings after a promotion to High-A Greenville. Despite those struggles, Walter's strong peripherals indicated that he'd gotten a little unlucky thus far. The six-foot-two lefthander left little up to luck on Wednesday, striking out 12 of the 22 batters he faced on his way to giving up just one hit in six innings. Walter has struck out 33 batters and walked only three in his 18 innings with Greenville, giving him a ratio of 79 to nine across both levels.

 

Not sure I've mentioned Brandon Walter before.