2020-2021 Offseason Thread

[Bellhorn04]

Moreland looks like he will be back.

 

Sweet.

[moonslav59]

When are the Jays going to realize they need starting pitchers? Edited January 27, 2021 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

Totonto:

Plus

Springer OF

Semien SS

Yates Closer

Chatwood RP

Minus

T Shaw

C Anderson

 

NYY

Plus

Kluber

Taillon

Minus

Tanaka

Paxton

Happ

Ottavino

 

TBR

Plus

Wacha

F Mejia

Minus

Snell

Morton

Lowe

Alvarado

 

Boston

Plus

G Richards

Ottavino

E Hernandez

Renfroe

Andriese

Whitlock

Minus

JBJ

 

Baltimore

Plus

Mac Sceroler

Tyler Wells

A Goudeau

C Shaw

Minus

 

Let me know who I left out.

[notin]

Totonto:

Plus

Springer OF

Semien SS

Yates Closer

Chatwood RP

Minus

T Shaw

C Anderson

 

NYY

Plus

Kluber

Taillon

Minus

Tanaka

Paxton

Happ

Ottavino

 

TBR

Plus

Wacha

F Mejia

Minus

Snell

Morton

Lowe

Alvarado

 

Boston

Plus

G Richards

Ottavino

E Hernandez

Renfroe

Andriese

Whitlock

Minus

JBJ

 

Baltimore

Plus

Mac Sceroler

Tyler Wells

A Goudeau

C Shaw

Minus

 

Let me know who I left out.

 

The Orioles signed Freddy Galvis and DFA'd Shaw.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/01/orioles-sign-freddy-galvis.html

 

They also traded Jose Iglesias to Anaheim..

[notin]

Sox signed someone named Matt Carsiti.

 

Blake Swihart is apparently nearing a deal with the Nationals...

[a700hitter]

Sox signed someone named Matt Carsiti.

 

Blake Swihart is apparently nearing a deal with the Nationals...

[h=1]Red Sox, Matt Carasiti Agree To Minors Deal[/h]

Season ticket sales and NESN subscriptions just spiked.

[Bellhorn04]

[h=1]Red Sox, Matt Carasiti Agree To Minors Deal[/h]

Season ticket sales and NESN subscriptions just spiked.

 

Your DNA will not let you not say these things every time we make some minor acquisition LOL

[mvp 78]

[h=1]Red Sox, Matt Carasiti Agree To Minors Deal[/h]

Season ticket sales and NESN subscriptions just spiked.

 

I love original comments like this.

[a700hitter]

I love original comments like this.

And who doesn’t love pointless snark.

[mvp 78]

Moreland looks like he will be back.

 

Good.

[mvp 78]

And who doesn’t love pointless snark.

 

Nobody.

[moonslav59]

Nats sign Lester to $5M/1.

[Kimmi]

Sox are reportedly talking to Mitch Moreland.

 

Notin approves...

 

!!!

[mvp 78]

Nats sign Lester to $5M/1.

 

Sox should have paid that.

[moonslav59]

Sox should have paid that.

 

Agreed.

 

[harmony]

Sox should have paid that.

Maybe the Red Sox did ... or even offered Jon Lester more.

 

Or not.

[moonslav59]

Dominoes left standing...

 

Trevor Bauer (NYM made recent offer)

Marcell Ozuna

Didi Gregorius

Jake Odorizzi

Justin Turner

Joc Pederson

Jackie Bradley

Nelson Cruz

James Paxton

Taijuan Walker

Kolten Wong

Trevor Rosenthal

Yadier Molina

Adam Wainwright

Alex Colome

Rick Porcello

Cole Hamels

Mark Melancon

Chris Archer

 

Shane Green, Jake McGee, Matt Moore, Jonathan Schoop, Kevin Pillar, Brett Gardner, Jonathan Villar, Brad Miller, Joakim Soria, Brandon Kintzler, Mitch Moreland

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by moonslav59

[Noles_1335]

Dominoes left standing...

 

Trevor Bauer (NYM made recent offer)

Marcell Ozuna

Didi Gregorius

Jake Odorizzi

Justin Turner

Joc Pederson

Jackie Bradley

Nelson Cruz

James Paxton

Taijuan Walker

Kolten Wong

Trevor Rosenthal

Yadier Molina

Adam Wainwright

Alex Colome

Rick Porcello

Cole Hamels

Mark Melancon

Chris Archer

 

Shane Green, Jake McGee, Matt Moore, Jonathan Schoop, Kevin Pillar, Brett Gardner, Jonathan Villar, Brad Miller, Joakim Soria, Brandon Kintzler, Mitch Moreland

 

 

Which of these pieces is realistic and a move to made on? I think Wong and Walker would be pieces to def take a look at.

[notin]

The Jays finally added a pitcher in Steve Matz.

 

Bloom was probably wise to not go all in after him, as he cost the Jays three MiLB pitchers the Sox probably don't have equals for, and he has only 1 season of control. And frankly, never really lived up to his hype as a former consensus top 20 prospect, although he is not a bad pitcher. He's just not a real difference maker, and certainly not an innings eater. More of a warm body who can pitch without being a complete embarrassment...

Edited January 28, 2021 by notin

[a700hitter]

The Jays finally added a pitcher in Steve Matz.

 

Bloom was probably wise to not go all in after him, as he cost the Jays three MiLB pitchers the Sox probably don't have equals for, and he has only 1 season of control. And frankly, never really lived up to his hype as a former consensus top 20 prospect, although he is not a bad pitcher. He's just not a real difference maker, and certainly not an innings eater. More of a warm body who can pitch without being a complete embarrassment...

It was a straight out salary dump so Alderson can put the full court press on to get Bauer. I know a lot of people get moist over prospects, but I wouldn’t be waiting to buy the rookie cards of any of these prospects.

[moonslav59]

Which of these pieces is realistic and a move to made on? I think Wong and Walker would be pieces to def take a look at.

 

Realistic, at this point?

 

Lux line an issue: Schoop and/or Colome (maybe have to trade some salary to make it work?)

 

Lux tax a minor concern: Miller/Schoop, Porcello AND Colome.

 

Lux tax not a big concern: Odorizzi, Colome and/or Wong.

[a700hitter]

Realistic, at this point?

 

Lux line an issue: Schoop and/or Colome (maybe have to trade some salary to make it work?)

 

Lux tax a minor concern: Miller/Schoop, Porcello AND Colome.

 

Lux tax not a big concern: Odorizzi, Colome and/or Wong.

Why are you so intent on Schoop when we have plenty of options to mix and match with Kike? How much do you want to invest in 2B for 2 part time players? I think there are other needs that have to be addressed.

[harmony]

Which of these pieces is realistic and a move to made on? I think Wong and Walker would be pieces to def take a look at.

Back in November free agents Kolten Wong and Taijuan Walker were part of one poster's offseason plan for the Seattle Mariners:

 

https://www.lookoutlanding.com/2020/11/15/21566234/harmonys-offseason-plan

 

Targeted free agents Chris Archer, Keone Kela, Jake McGee and Jake Lamb also remain available.

[moonslav59]

It was a straight out salary dump so Alderson can put the full court press on to get Bauer. I know a lot of people get moist over prospects, but I wouldn’t be waiting to buy the rookie cards of any of these prospects.

 

Agreed, and not many Sox fans who value prospects got all moist over losing the Basabes and Beeks of the system, although one could argue Logan Allen and Dubon kinda fit that bill.

 

Moncada

Kopech

Margot

Espinoza

 

Not many were for trying to keep everyone of our top prospects, either. It was the fact that we traded away all the best, except Devers.

 

[a700hitter]

The Jays finally added a pitcher in Steve Matz.

 

Bloom was probably wise to not go all in after him, as he cost the Jays three MiLB pitchers the Sox probably don't have equals for, and he has only 1 season of control. And frankly, never really lived up to his hype as a former consensus top 20 prospect, although he is not a bad pitcher. He's just not a real difference maker, and certainly not an innings eater. More of a warm body who can pitch without being a complete embarrassment...

Here is some information about the prospects received by the Mets in return for Matz. Warm bodies with heartbeats.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/01/28/meet-the-three-pitching-prospects-mets-got-back-for-steven-matz/

[moonslav59]

Would TB accept this trade offer? (accepted on BTV)

 

Beni & Pivetta for Kiermaier & Yarbrough

 

How about one of these?

 

Chavis & A Ramirez for Adam Frazier (2B)

Groome, Murphy, Arauz & Zeferjahn for Frazier & Brault

Beni, Groome & Pivetta for Patrick Sandoval-P (liked to disliked 8-4)

Beni & Pivetta for Cal Quantrill-P (6-6)

 

This one was liked 16 to disliked 5:

Beni to ATL for Inciarte (CF) +$4M and Kyle Wright (SP)

 

I like this 3-way:

to BOS: Bader (OF), Stallings ©, Frazier (2B) & Brault (P)

to PHI: Vaz, Beni & Duran

to PIT: Herrera & Arauz

[mvp 78]

Agreed, and not many Sox fans who value prospects got all moist over losing the Basabes and Beeks of the system, although one could argue Logan Allen and Dubon kinda fit that bill.

 

Moncada

Kopech

Margot

Espinoza

 

Not many were for trying to keep everyone of our top prospects, either. It was the fact that we traded away all the best, except Devers.

 

 

Logan Allen hasn't shown much in the past 3 years. Dubon seems to be a UTIL guy, not an everyday starter.

[moonslav59]

Logan Allen hasn't shown much in the past 3 years. Dubon seems to be a UTIL guy, not an everyday starter.

 

I was saying that those were the only two non top prospects anyone seemed to "shed a tear" over.

 

Dubon has earned his way into a FT role, now.

 

He started 46 games, last year (33 in CF).

[notin]

Would TB accept this trade offer? (accepted on BTV)

 

Beni & Pivetta for Kiermaier & Yarbrough

 

How about one of these?

 

Chavis & A Ramirez for Adam Frazier (2B)

Groome, Murphy, Arauz & Zeferjahn for Frazier & Brault

Beni, Groome & Pivetta for Patrick Sandoval-P (liked to disliked 8-4)

Beni & Pivetta for Cal Quantrill-P (6-6)

 

This one was liked 16 to disliked 5:

Beni to ATL for Inciarte (CF) +$4M and Kyle Wright (SP)

 

I like this 3-way:

to BOS: Bader (OF), Stallings ©, Frazier (2B) & Brault (P)

to PHI: Vaz, Beni & Duran

to PIT: Herrera & Arauz

 

Why Would Philly want Vaz when they just spent a fortune to bring back Realmuto?

[moonslav59]

Why Would Philly want Vaz when they just spent a fortune to bring back Realmuto?

 

That was an old trade. I meant to pull the 3 way with STL, where they get Vaz & Beni and we get Bader and Stallings.