2020 Trade Deadline

[mvp 78]

True in a sense that the other 3 are all controlled for next season. If 2021 goes South by the deadline, all can be dealt then.

 

However, if the Sox want better prospects back, those are the worst two trading chips.

 

There are pros and cons everywhere...

 

Pillar is a better trading chip than Brasier.

[notin]

Pillar is a better trading chip than Brasier.

 

I didn't list Braiser among my candidates, probably becuase I am not a fan and cannot see any team thuiking he is a missing piece.

 

It is worth noting that historically, relievers are better trade chips at the deadline because they bring back better returns than position players.

 

The additional control and lower salary do help Brasier's cause, but Pillar is rocking this year. Tough call...

[Bellhorn04]

I didn't list Braiser among my candidates, probably becuase I am not a fan and cannot see any team thuiking he is a missing piece.

 

It is worth noting that historically, relievers are better trade chips at the deadline because they bring back better returns than position players.

 

The additional control and lower salary do help Brasier's cause, but Pillar is rocking this year. Tough call...

 

Brasier has actually been on a run of good pitching.

[notin]

Brasier has actually been on a run of good pitching.

 

Maybe I should not have left him off my list.

 

His last 6 appearances have brought his ERA down from 10.50 to 4.97. There are a couple ways to value that...

[mvp 78]

I would argue he does not have any more versatility. Bradley can handle LF and RF and probably does as well or better than Pillar. He certainly has a better arm, which gives him an advantage over Pillar in RF.

 

Pillar does have an advantage in that he is substantially cheaper...

 

Pillar has much more recent experience in both RF and LF in the past two years. I'd argue that while JBJ's arm is stronger, that his defense over his career is not that much different than Pillar's. Though it's hard to know how much of an effect Betts in RF had on his overall defensive value.

 

Offensively, Pillar is far superior to JBJ this year.

[mvp 78]

I didn't list Braiser among my candidates, probably becuase I am not a fan and cannot see any team thuiking he is a missing piece.

 

It is worth noting that historically, relievers are better trade chips at the deadline because they bring back better returns than position players.

 

The additional control and lower salary do help Brasier's cause, but Pillar is rocking this year. Tough call...

 

Pillar's bat is definitely the reason he'd be dealt. He has a very solid glove and doesn't kill you when he's in the lineup. Perfect plug and play guy for a team going to the playoffs.

[notin]

Pillar has much more recent experience in both RF and LF in the past two years. I'd argue that while JBJ's arm is stronger, that his defense over his career is not that much different than Pillar's. Though it's hard to know how much of an effect Betts in RF had on his overall defensive value.

 

Offensively, Pillar is far superior to JBJ this year.

 

Well, he is hitting. Something JBJ stopped doing after the first few days of the season.

 

But if I was a GM looking for a CF, I would target Bradley over Pillar...

[mvp 78]

Well, he is hitting. Something JBJ stopped doing after the first few days of the season.

 

But if I was a GM looking for a CF, I would target Bradley over Pillar...

 

At this point of the season, I don't think a GM is focusing on fixing one position, especially CF. It's about plugging holes on your bench. I think that's why Pillar has a leg up.

[notin]

At this point of the season, I don't think a GM is focusing on fixing one position, especially CF. It's about plugging holes on your bench. I think that's why Pillar has a leg up.

 

THat's situational.

 

A team like Cleveland that has struggled with OF all year might want a solid starter. But certainly some teams might prefer the depth.

 

The interesting part here is teams looking for a platoon have the option of a hitter from either side.

 

If either goes, I prefer it be Pillar. That way it removes the temptation to platoon Verdugo (assuming Pillar is not the starting CF)...

[mvp 78]

THat's situational.

 

A team like Cleveland that has struggled with OF all year might want a solid starter. But certainly some teams might prefer the depth.

 

The interesting part here is teams looking for a platoon have the option of a hitter from either side.

 

If either goes, I prefer it be Pillar. That way it removes the temptation to platoon Verdugo (assuming Pillar is not the starting CF)...

 

If JBJ is traded, wouldn't OF just be Verdugo/Pillar/filler? I don't see Verdugo getting platooned at all. With Beni out, there really aren't enough bodies to create a logjam if one guy goes. I wonder if they end up trying Chavis in LF?

[notin]

If JBJ is traded, wouldn't OF just be Verdugo/Pillar/filler? I don't see Verdugo getting platooned at all. With Beni out, there really aren't enough bodies to create a logjam if one guy goes. I wonder if they end up trying Chavis in LF?

 

Very possible. however, they might call up Duran or move Chavis to the OF. Or get an OF back in a trade.

 

And maybe Beni returns at some point? Updates on him have been pretty limited. Probably because no one really cares with the year he was having...

[mvp 78]

Very possible. however, they might call up Duran or move Chavis to the OF. Or get an OF back in a trade.

 

And maybe Beni returns at some point? Updates on him have been pretty limited. Probably because no one really cares with the year he was having...

 

I'd be surprised if they brought up Duran. More likely that Lin just gets a lot of run in the OF.

 

They should trade Pillar AND JBJ. Anything not nailed down for 2021 should be on the sidewalk.

[notin]

I'd be surprised if they brought up Duran. More likely that Lin just gets a lot of run in the OF.

 

They should trade Pillar AND JBJ. Anything not nailed down for 2021 should be on the sidewalk.

 

I can agree with that. But it is fairly tough to pull off too many trades in such a short time. Any discussion would hopefully already have started...

[mvp 78]

I can agree with that. But it is fairly tough to pull off too many trades in such a short time. Any discussion would hopefully already have started...

 

I don't think any trade is made today that hasn't already been discussed. I doubt GM's call up rando GM's on 3pm today and discuss trades that have never been brought up before, especially when prospects will be involved.

[moonslav59]

I'd be surprised if they brought up Duran. More likely that Lin just gets a lot of run in the OF.

 

They should trade Pillar AND JBJ. Anything not nailed down for 2021 should be on the sidewalk.

 

I'd also seriously consider trading those who will be FAs after 2021 as well, but I would not just trade them for the best offer like I would JBJ & Pillar. That's not to say I may take the best offer on Perez & Barnes, if I think no offers will ever be better this winter or next summer.

[mvp 78]

I'd also seriously consider trading those who will be FAs after 2021 as well, but I would not just trade them for the best offer like I would JBJ & Pillar. That's not to say I may take the best offer on Perez & Barnes, if I think no offers will ever be better this winter or next summer.

 

It depends on if Chaim thinks he's going to compete next season. If he does, Perez stays. I think Vaz stays just because the Sox don't have someone behind him.

[notin]

I don't think any trade is made today that hasn't already been discussed. I doubt GM's call up rando GM's on 3pm today and discuss trades that have never been brought up before, especially when prospects will be involved.

 

It's probably tough to pull of a trade like that, especially since the legal teams need time to review the contracts...

[notin]

It depends on if Chaim thinks he's going to compete next season. If he does, Perez stays. I think Vaz stays just because the Sox don't have someone behind him.

 

Well, they can ride out this year with Plawecki and solve that problem in the offseason. Not like Plawecki is going to derail the season...

[notin]

Clevinger to San Diego.

 

5 deadline trades for the Padres...

[notin]

Clevinger to San Diego.

 

5 deadline trades for the Padres...

 

So apparently it is Clevinger, OF Greg Allen, and PTBNL for OF Josh Naylor, RHP Cal Quantrill, RHP Joey Cantillo, SS Gabriel Arias, C Austin Hedges, and INF Owen Miller.

 

Seems like Preller robbed the Guardians blind...

Edited August 31, 2020 by notin

[mvp 78]

Padres are getting swept in the first round.

[notin]

Three hours and change until the deadline. Can Bloom pull off another deal?

[dgalehouse]

It sucks being a seller at the deadline.

[Thunder]

It sucks being a seller at the deadline.

 

Remember when we dismantled the Orioles on Opening Night?

[mvp 78]

@redsoxstats

With McAdam reporting earlier this week the Sox were willing to get creative with money, and the luxury tax being reset, I wonder if there is talk about eating a bad deal to buy a prospect today. Odor due $28m over the next two years, but only $8.2m AAV. Texas trying to dump him.

[Bellhorn04]

Padres are getting swept in the first round.

 

Crapshoot.

[MADSTORK]

One Stooge left to deal and you pink hats know who it is...

 

Tank Tank Tank! Opportunity to get the #1 overall pick in the draft, Kumar Rocker!

Season is a wash anyways with all the Virus restrictions. I'm sure some players do not want to play or their concentration is not all there and not to mention the civil unrest in the Nation. Set the sights on 2021 and Rocker!

 

Barnes and Martinez need to be moved regardless of the return (dump the contracts), Pillar should get you a chip. Far as Bradley, D is special but not at 11 per, deal needs to be real good.

 

Keep on tradin Orlando Bloom, you aint made a bad move yet!

 

Hope all of my pink hat friends are well.....

[oldtimer]

I'd be surprised if they brought up Duran. More likely that Lin just gets a lot of run in the OF.

would bring up they should trade Pillar AND JBJ. Anything not nailed down for 2021 should be on the sidewalk.

 

I think they bring up Duran if they trade either JBJ or Pilllar. My view is Lin is gone in 2021 anyway and there may be more to Beni's time off than just sore ribs. If there is space, Duran makes the most sense.

[mvp 78]

The Mets are showing interest in Red Sox catcher Christian Vazquez, per reports from Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Chris Cotillo of MassLive.com) and Jon Heyman of MLB Network.

 

While the Mets have gotten off to a subpar 15-19 start, they’re nonetheless in the playoff race in a wide-open National League. And catcher is one of the areas they’re looking to upgrade, as Heyman reports that they’re hoping to at least add depth behind the plate. The club was previously in on Jason Castro before the Padres acquired him from the Angels on Sunday, according to Heyman.

 

Mets catchers have collectively logged middling offensive numbers this year, largely because starter Wilson Ramos is amid one of the worst offensive years of his career. On the other hand, the normally light-hitting Tomas Nido has posted impressive production, though his success has come over a paltry 26 trips to the plate.

 

With Ramos likely to become a free agent after the season (New York has a $10MM option or a $1.5MM buyout decision), the Mets could be in the market for a new No. 1 backstop during the winter. In acquiring Vazquez, though, they’d seemingly remove the need to pursue catchers in the offseason. Vazquez, after all, is controllable next season for $6MM and has a $7MM option (or a $250K buyout) for 2022. As such, there may not be any urgency for Boston to move Vazquez, but the out-of-contention club is at least open to it.

 

Vazquez, who turned 30 on Aug. 21, hasn’t hit much since his career began in 2014. He seemed to turn a corner in that regard last year with a .276/.320/.477 line and 23 home runs in 521 plate appearances, but he has slumped to a .252/.286/.411 line with four homers in 112 PA this season. At the very least, though, Vazquez is an accomplished defender – one who has thrown out a whopping 40 percent of would-be base thieves this season and during his career.

[Bellhorn04]

One Stooge left to deal and you pink hats know who it is...

 

Tank Tank Tank! Opportunity to get the #1 overall pick in the draft, Kumar Rocker!

 

Only took two sentences for you to remind us of your ignorance!

 

Worst record this year isn't guaranteed first pick...