Sox still negotiating for Myers

[mvp 78]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/02/red-sox-trade-rumors-padres-wil-myers-unlikely.html

 

The Red Sox have been linked to various permutations of trades involving Padres outfielder Wil Myers this offseason — including as recently as last week. However, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe now reports that the two sides are “unlikely” to line up on an agreement. The Red Sox’ interest in working out a trade was largely a means of attempting to purchase some minor league and/or controllable MLB talent by absorbing part of the remaining three years and $61MM on Myers’ contract.

 

It’s not a surprise to see the Red Sox seeking creative ways to bolster their farm and their stock of MLB-ready rotation options. Boston’s farm landed 22nd of 30 in Baseball America’s February ranking of the game’s best minor league systems, and the back of their rotation looks perilously thin. Beyond Chris Sale, Eduardo Rodriguez and Nathan Eovaldi, the Red Sox will likely rely on reclamation project Martin Perez and an unproven internal option (or options).

 

Among the candidates vying for the fifth starter’s job are Hector Velazquez, Matt Hall, Chris Mazza, Mike Shawaryn, Ryan Weber and Kyle Hart. A clear winner might not be declared, as the Sox could shuffle a number of names through that spot or even deploy an opener every fifth day. And, of course, Sale and Eovaldi were far from 100 percent healthy in 2019. The added depth such a move would bring about would be particularly valuable in Boston.

 

As for the Padres, while it’s logical that they’d want to get out from some of the remaining Myers money, Speier indicates that the club isn’t interested in depleting its depth just to save money at this time. Shipping a Cal Quantrill or Joey Lucchesi to Boston thins out their starting depth, and there’s no real means of improving the roster quality right now outside of an additional trade. Bringing a third club into the mix — as has been previously rumored — would give the Padres more options but obviously comes with additional layers of complexity. With Opening Day just one month away, the time to put together a deal of that magnitude is waning.

[mvp 78]

I guess it really was "or not" harmony!

 

And the Sox have jumped 6 places in the prospect rankings thanks to Bloom.

[Hitch]

With Opening Day just one month away, the time to put together a deal of that magnitude is waning.

 

'(Not that Opening Day is a deadline, per se, but notable trades early in the regular season are a rarity.)'

 

I don't think opening Day will have much of any bearing on Bloom. He'll work to his own time, not false deadlines.

[mvp 78]

'(Not that Opening Day is a deadline, per se, but notable trades early in the regular season are a rarity.)'

 

I don't think opening Day will have much of any bearing on Bloom. He'll work to his own time, not false deadlines.

 

The only problem is that other GM's still work with those deadlines. I don't see the Padres trading Luchessi or Quantril during the season. If they haven't traded them by now, they aren't going to.

[Hitch]

The only problem is that other GM's still work with those deadlines. I don't see the Padres trading Luchessi or Quantril during the season. If they haven't traded them by now, they aren't going to.

 

Maybe, maybe not. Different stresses create differing releases. If we offer whatever deal the Padres wanted, they'd do it 40 minutes before Quantril was due to start. We'll see what happens.

[mvp 78]

Maybe, maybe not. Different stresses create differing releases. If we offer whatever deal the Padres wanted, they'd do it 40 minutes before Quantril was due to start. We'll see what happens.

 

What the Padres want is for the Sox to take on more salary. I think it'd be a bad move.

[Hitch]

What the Padres want is for the Sox to take on more salary. I think it'd be a bad move.

 

Yeah, absolutely they do. It depends what they're after. At some point it makes sense, and at some point it doesn't. I loved the idea of buying prospects in this sort of a deal if the LT was low. Depends how high it creeps though, and what was on offer.

[mvp 78]

Yeah, absolutely they do. It depends what they're after. At some point it makes sense, and at some point it doesn't. I loved the idea of buying prospects in this sort of a deal if the LT was low. Depends how high it creeps though, and what was on offer.

 

The rumor is that they are now less likely to package young SP's with Myers (Quantril, Luchessi, etc.). If that's the case, the Sox should not be interested in the deal at all unless they are absolutely overwhelmed with prospects.

[moonslav59]

The rumor is that they are now less likely to package young SP's with Myers (Quantril, Luchessi, etc.). If that's the case, the Sox should not be interested in the deal at all unless they are absolutely overwhelmed with prospects.

 

I'd do it for Campusano or maybe Morejon + Weathers.

[mvp 78]

I'd do it for Campusano or maybe Morejon + Weathers.

 

Campusano hasn't played above A ball. Why would you take on 3.8M in CBT space just for him?

[Hitch]

The rumor is that they are now less likely to package young SP's with Myers (Quantril, Luchessi, etc.). If that's the case, the Sox should not be interested in the deal at all unless they are absolutely overwhelmed with prospects.

 

Yup, absolutely agree.

 

First report I saw had Qunatril and Campusnao coming here. I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, but doesn't look at all likely now.

[notin]

Yup, absolutely agree.

 

First report I saw had Qunatril and Campusnao coming here. I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, but doesn't look at all likely now.

 

I think everyone would do that deal. Except Preller and his fanbase...

[Hitch]

I think everyone would do that deal. Except Preller and his fanbase...

 

Which is fair enough all round. Maybe if we threw in more cash it might get it done. But I doubt much will happen there, now.

[notin]

Which is fair enough all round. Maybe if we threw in more cash it might get it done. But I doubt much will happen there, now.

 

I think it's dead.

 

Time to move on and make the same pitch for Rougned Odor and Kolby Allard...

[Hitch]

Yeah I agree, I'm just allowing my mind to wander as I so liked the idea of it at the start.

[Bellhorn04]

Yeah I agree, I'm just allowing my mind to wander as I so liked the idea of it at the start.

 

Hey, we all like trade proposals where we fleece the other team.

[Hitch]

Haha touche.

[moonslav59]

Campusano hasn't played above A ball. Why would you take on 3.8M in CBT space just for him?

 

He is one of the top catching prospects in all of baseball, and catchers are hard to find.

 

I realize his level makes him more of a gamble, but I'd roll the dice on him. (I also think Chavis looks like the next Middy, so it's just $3.8M a year for 3 years for a player that would be a top 3 prospect on this team.

 

That is more than worth it, IMO.

[Larry Cook]

He is one of the top catching prospects in all of baseball, and catchers are hard to find.

 

I realize his level makes him more of a gamble, but I'd roll the dice on him. (I also think Chavis looks like the next Middy, so it's just $3.8M a year for 3 years for a player that would be a top 3 prospect on this team.

 

That is more than worth it, IMO.

 

Looking at chavis’s swing this spring and besides his timing bring way off, he is lunging and not staying back on the ball. Opposing pitchers are going to have a field day with him, unless they make a mistake.

[dupree]

Is this trade still being negotiated or is it dead

[mvp 78]

Is this trade still being negotiated or is it dead

 

As dead as Elvis.

[Slasher9]

As dead as Elvis.

 

wait...so is that dead or not dead?

[mvp 78]

wait...so is that dead or not dead?

 

Yes.

[dupree]

Ok with the deal.being dead who is going to be the 5th starter? I really like that Cal Quantrill which was involved in the trade rumors

[mvp 78]

Ok with the deal.being dead who is going to be the 5th starter? I really like that Cal Quantrill which was involved in the trade rumors

 

Opener.

 

Weber/Houk/et al

[harmony]

Ok with the deal.being dead who is going to be the 5th starter? I really like that Cal Quantrill which was involved in the trade rumors

The Red Sox may go with an opener:

 

[Kimmi]

As dead as Elvis.

 

Not necessarily dead yet.

[notin]

Ok with the deal.being dead who is going to be the 5th starter? I really like that Cal Quantrill which was involved in the trade rumors

 

Fifth starter?

 

What about the fourth starter? Sale isn't going to start the season on the roster.

[notin]

Not necessarily dead yet.

 

Heard anything?

[notin]

Opener.

 

Weber/Houk/et al

 

Yeah! Weber! And his 5.04 ERA/4.37 FIP...