Fire Chaim Bloom!

[Kimmi]

Sox are 24th in the league in shifting. Maybe they aren't doing it enough!

 

However, the Braves/A's/Padres have all been pretty good and they are at the bottom in terms of shifting.

 

Ban the shift!

[mvp 78]

Ban the shift!

 

Dodgers are leading the league in shifting though?

 

I have to say that I do roll my eyes from time to time when the Sox get burned by the shift, but I'm getting used to it.

[notin]

Ben didn’t do all that great with the draft. Betts was drafted in 2011. Ben botched the Trey Ball pick, his first shot to put a real stamp on this system. He also was in charge when the Sox got in trouble with their international spending which set them back.

 

He did draft Benintendi. And wasn't his international spending trouble for going over the limits to get Moncada (who became Sale)?

 

He also drafted Buttrey, Dubon, Kopech, Chavis, Beeks, and Logan Allen, all of whom (save Chavis) were traded away for other pieces...

[mvp 78]

He did draft Benintendi. And wasn't his international spending trouble for going over the limits to get Moncada (who became Sale)?

 

He also drafted Buttrey, Dubon, Kopech, Chavis, Beeks, and Logan Allen, all of whom (save Chavis) were traded away for other pieces...

 

Moncada signing caused the initial $300k cap for signings in 2015 (he signed in 2014). In 2015, they tried getting around that rule again and that's when they faced this stiffer 2016-2017 penalties.

[notin]

Moncada signing caused the initial $300k cap for signings in 2015 (he signed in 2014). In 2015, they tried getting around that rule again and that's when they faced this stiffer 2016-2017 penalties.

 

So it did start with Moncada. I can't fault that.

 

Was Rusney considered part of that budget?

[mvp 78]

Also, I'm not sure they can pat themselves on the back for BUMintendi right now.

 

Guys drafted after him: Happ, Buehler

 

5 All Stars have come out of that draft so far. Benny isn't one of them.

[mvp 78]

So it did start with Moncada. I can't fault that.

 

Was Rusney considered part of that budget?

 

Moncada was fine, the problem was when they went back to the well the following year. That's when they really got nailed and set the org back.

[notin]

Also, I'm not sure they can pat themselves on the back for BUMintendi right now.

 

Guys drafted after him: Happ, Buehler

 

5 All Stars have come out of that draft so far. Benny isn't one of them.

 

So I take it only 2020 counts?

 

2016-2019, Happ and Benintendi were basically the same hitter - .796 OPS for Benintendi and .816 for Happ. Miniscule difference, especially since Benintendi has about 1000 more PA in that timeframe.

 

But Benintendi was worth 9.0 fWAR while Happ was only worth 4.8 fWAR...

[notin]

Also, I'm not sure they can pat themselves on the back for BUMintendi right now.

 

Guys drafted after him: Happ, Buehler

 

5 All Stars have come out of that draft so far. Benny isn't one of them.

 

And right after Benintendi, the next pick was Carson Fulmer, who has been DFAd three times in the past 12 months.

 

Is Benintendi a good Major Leaguer or not? Just because a better player was picked later does not mean he was a bad pick. By that logic, Strasburg was a bad pick because Trout was still on the board...

[Bellhorn04]

Is Benintendi a good Major Leaguer or not?

 

The jury is out.

[mvp 78]

And right after Benintendi, the next pick was Carson Fulmer, who has been DFAd three times in the past 12 months.

 

Is Benintendi a good Major Leaguer or not? Just because a better player was picked later does not mean he was a bad pick. By that logic, Strasburg was a bad pick because Trout was still on the board...

 

If they had played the same amount of games, Happ would have a much better fWAR than Beni. Also, Beni's abbertation year of 2018 is really pumping up those numbers. If that Beni doesn't ever come back, Happ is definitely the better player.

 

Happ has a better career OPS and WRC. Happ is also a much better fielder. Beni is adequate in LF. When Happ plays LF, he's been great.

[mvp 78]

All I'm saying is that Ben's drafting and org development is overrated.

[notin]

The jury is out.

 

He has beaten the odds by playing 5 season in MLB, which already puts him well into the top 50% of all players. And he's been a full time starter since being called up. And is still only 26.

 

He's basically a year older than Dalbec, whom people still want to give a chance to. Players his age and from his same first round are just making their MLB debuts now. Ke'Bryan Hayes, for example, debited this week.

 

Sure, there were better players taken later, but a lot more worse ones were. And of the 6 players taken in front of him, 3 (Kyle Tucker, Brendan Rodgers, and Dillon Tate) are less accomplished in MLB and a fourth (Tyler Jay) has been largely ineffective in AA ball for multiple organizations.

 

But yeah, he's no Alex Bregman. Although he sure can catch Bregman's sinking line drives...

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

He has beaten the odds by playing 5 season in MLB, which already puts him well into the top 50% of all players. And he's been a full time starter since being called up. And is still only 26.

 

He's basically a year older than Dalbec, whom people still want to give a chance to. Players his age and from his same first round are just making their MLB debuts now. Ke'Bryan Hayes, for example, debited this week.

 

Sure, there were better players taken later, but a lot more worse ones were. And of the 6 players taken in front of him, 3 (Kyle Tucker, Brendan Rodgers, and Dillon Tate) are less accomplished in MLB and a fourth (Tyler Jay) has been largely ineffective in AA ball for multiple organizations.

 

But yeah, he's no Alex Bregman. Although he sure can catch Bregman's sinking line drives...

 

The Sox drafted Bregman out of high school in the 29th round in 2012. Similarly, the Reds drafted Beni in the 31st round the next year. Both had enough confidence to chose college, where they became Top 10 picks by '15. People seem to forget that Andrew was the nation's top college player as a sophomore and playing in the pros the same year. He is adjusting to perhaps the first major failures in his baseball life. Developmental paths aren't always ascending arrows.

[notin]

The Sox drafted Bregman out of high school in the 29th round in 2012. Similarly, the Reds drafted Beni in the 31st round the next year. Both had enough confidence to chose college, where they became Top 10 picks by '15. People seem to forget that Andrew was the nation's top college player as a sophomore and playing in the pros the same year. He is adjusting to perhaps the first major failures in his baseball life. Developmental paths aren't always ascending arrows.

 

He was also a BA#1 overall prospect.

 

He’s a good player, but I think some expected a better one with his pedigree. But then he’s also still only 26...

[Slasher9]

Dombrowski's record with the Sox is very largely a result of the great work done by Theo and Ben.

 

Bloom's record with the Sox to date is very largely a result of the work done by Dombrowski.

 

Thus, the report card grades.

 

i love you

[Slasher9]

All I'm saying is that Ben's drafting and org development is overrated.

 

what is this avatar? #confused

[mvp 78]

what is this avatar? #confused

 

It's a babe with big bazoombas that has been photoshopped to say Verboobgo.

[mvp 78]

Sources: the Red Sox notified 9 baseball ops employees today that they wouldn't be renewed: 4 in pro scouting, 3 in player development, and 2 in amateur scouting.

 

This is pretty normal turnover under a new GM when contracts expire, with some restructuring planned in these depts.

[oldtimer]

Those of you who accuse Bloom of dumpster diving without results will have to reconcile the addition of Munoz. He appears to be a guy who is flexible defensively and can hit at the ML level, Is he a new piece to the 2021 lineup in the outfield or at 2nd base? Stay tuned.

[cp176]

Dombrowski's record with the Sox is very largely a result of the great work done by Theo and Ben.

 

Bloom's record with the Sox to date is very largely a result of the work done by Dombrowski.

 

Thus, the report card grades.

 

I know right - thanks Dave for those tiles. Your work certainly gave of us something enjoyable to watch.

[notin]

Those of you who accuse Bloom of dumpster diving without results will have to reconcile the addition of Munoz. He appears to be a guy who is flexible defensively and can hit at the ML level, Is he a new piece to the 2021 lineup in the outfield or at 2nd base? Stay tuned.

 

Well, there is no doubt Bloom was Dumpster Diving. No GM ever has had Mike Kickham or Robert Stock as part of Plan A. Or B.

 

Munoz is a good player, and possibly a capable starter. But he might be crazy, and not as good as he thinks he is. Remember, we only have him because he quit on the Cardinals and stormed out of camp over playing time, which is a tad extreme reaction from a player with a career .723 OPS...

[oldtimer]

Well, there is no doubt Bloom was Dumpster Diving. No GM ever has had Mike Kickham or Robert Stock as part of Plan A. Or B.

 

Munoz is a good player, and possibly a capable starter. But he might be crazy, and not as good as he thinks he is. Remember, we only have him because he quit on the Cardinals and stormed out of camp over playing time, which is a tad extreme reaction from a player with a career .723 OPS...

 

The Sox are a team that had Jimmy Pearsall(sp) playing for them. When you find a talented guy you hope to accommodate a little zaniness.

[harmony]

Ben didn’t do all that great with the draft. Betts was drafted in 2011. Ben botched the Trey Ball pick, his first shot to put a real stamp on this system. He also was in charge when the Sox got in trouble with their international spending which set them back.

In the 10 June drafts between 2006 and 2015 the Red Sox had 23 first-round draft picks, including supplemental picks.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?team_ID=BOS&draft_round=1&draft_type=junreg&query_type=franch_round

 

Of those 23 picks, Jackie Bradley Jr. has produced 16.4 bWAR, Andrew Benintendi 9.7 bWAR and Daniel Bard(!) 4.5 bWAR. The remaining 20 first-round draft picks have combined for a negative 0.7 bWAR.

 

Over that period the Red Sox never drafted higher than seventh (Trey Ball in 2013 and Benintendi in 2015). The Red Sox did not fare much better in Rounds 2-4 but hit the jackpot with Mookie Betts in the fifth round of the 2011 draft.

 

The point is that high draft picks provide no guarantee, although some franchises are more successful than others.

[dgalehouse]

Baseball is a more complicated game than football or basketball. It is not as easy to spot the kids that will become the stars of tomorrow. No doubt, having a high draft pick helps somewhat.

[Larry Cook]

Sources: the Red Sox notified 9 baseball ops employees today that they wouldn't be renewed: 4 in pro scouting, 3 in player development, and 2 in amateur scouting.

 

This is pretty normal turnover under a new GM when contracts expire, with some restructuring planned in these depts.

 

I guess we now know which members of the baseball operations department assisted hang’em Chaim the most with the 2019-2020 free agent class!

[mvp 78]

In the 10 June drafts between 2006 and 2015 the Red Sox had 23 first-round draft picks, including supplemental picks.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?team_ID=BOS&draft_round=1&draft_type=junreg&query_type=franch_round

 

Of those 23 picks, Jackie Bradley Jr. has produced 16.4 bWAR, Andrew Benintendi 9.7 bWAR and Daniel Bard(!) 4.5 bWAR. The remaining 20 first-round draft picks have combined for a negative 0.7 bWAR.

 

Over that period the Red Sox never drafted higher than seventh (Trey Ball in 2013 and Benintendi in 2015). The Red Sox did not fare much better in Rounds 2-4 but hit the jackpot with Mookie Betts in the fifth round of the 2011 draft.

 

The point is that high draft picks provide no guarantee, although some franchises are more successful than others.

 

My only point was that some people tend to overstate Ben's ability to build a farm. He was fine. Theo was better.

[notin]

My only point was that some people tend to overstate Ben's ability to build a farm. He was fine. Theo was better.

 

Ben did a very good job building a farm. His problem was failing to move any prospects for accomplished MLB talent. Dombrowski had the opposite flaw where he moved too much...

[mvp 78]

Sox had the 6th rated farm in 2015, but most of it was fool's gold.

 

Prospects to See There: Matt Barnes, Garin Cecchini, Brian Johnson, Deven Marrero, Henry Owens, Eduardo Rodriguez, Blake Swihart

 

Of course it's all a crapshoot. Blake Swihart was a top 20 prospect at the time.

[jad]

Those of you who accuse Bloom of dumpster diving without results will have to reconcile the addition of Munoz. He appears to be a guy who is flexible defensively and can hit at the ML level, Is he a new piece to the 2021 lineup in the outfield or at 2nd base? Stay tuned.

 

Wow. A guy who can hit at a major league level!!! (The mere fact that RS fans see that as a cause for celebration pretty much shows how far the have fallen).