Should Eovaldi be re-sign?

[cp176]

At this point in time, second base really isn't much of a concern. Devers has emerged at third. My guess - Eovaldi comes back and Kimbrel doesn't unless there is a real mutual understanding.

[notin]

His big name splashers have been pretty good picks for the most part.

 

Which is probably why he won’t change his MO...

[notin]

At this point in time, second base really isn't much of a concern. Devers has emerged at third. My guess - Eovaldi comes back and Kimbrel doesn't unless there is a real mutual understanding.

 

I do agree that having Holt and Nunez does mitigate the need for a stopgap 2b. I would imagine if the Sox do pursue a 2b, it might be a statement about their knowledge and expectations for Pedroia’s future...

[Bellhorn04]

Which is probably why he won’t change his MO...

 

Maybe he shouldn't change his MO.

[moonslav59]

I do agree that having Holt and Nunez does mitigate the need for a stopgap 2b. I would imagine if the Sox do pursue a 2b, it might be a statement about their knowledge and expectations for Pedroia’s future...

 

Even if Pedey retires, I'm not sure we pick anyone up for 2B. Nunez & Holt can show what they got next year, and maybe this is the year Marco Hernandez finally gets healthy.

[Hitch]

At this point in time, second base really isn't much of a concern. Devers has emerged at third. My guess - Eovaldi comes back and Kimbrel doesn't unless there is a real mutual understanding.

 

Yup, this is how I see it, too and that's just fine by me.

[mvp 78]

At this point in time, second base really isn't much of a concern. Devers has emerged at third. My guess - Eovaldi comes back and Kimbrel doesn't unless there is a real mutual understanding.

 

I think Eovaldi prices himself out of Boston.

[harmony]

I think DD brings back Kimbrel.

 

For the rumored money and years, I would prefer he brought back Kelly and looked elsewhere for a closer...

Two years of Seattle reliever Alex Colome, the 2017 league leader in saves pitching in the AL East, could be available ...

 

But I don't see a good match.

[Slasher9]

At this point in time, second base really isn't much of a concern. Devers has emerged at third. My guess - Eovaldi comes back and Kimbrel doesn't unless there is a real mutual understanding.

 

i am with you here.

i would always prioritize starting pitching.

[BillyWilliams]

Even if Pedey retires, I'm not sure we pick anyone up for 2B. Nunez & Holt can show what they got next year, and maybe this is the year Marco Hernandez finally gets healthy.

 

Why would he retire? Too much money on the table.

[jung]

Sox will likely make every reasonable effort to sign Eo. There are not many teams that will be able to afford him and Boston just happens to be one of them. So actually he probably is "priced out" of about 25 of the 30 markets.....but I don't think he is necessarily priced out of Boston.

[notin]

Even if Pedey retires, I'm not sure we pick anyone up for 2B. Nunez & Holt can show what they got next year, and maybe this is the year Marco Hernandez finally gets healthy.

 

Hernandez has rarely played and even more rarely dazzled. He might not even be on the 40 man roster next year. And in his brief activity with the Sox, he hasn’t done much to merit it. Some of the Stat Cast metrics have placed his exit velocity among the worst in MLB, behind many pitchers with the same number of plate appearances...

[moonslav59]

Why would he retire? Too much money on the table.

 

Okay, word it this way, even if he never puts a uniform on again or never makes the active roster again.

[mvp 78]

Pedey will play 140+ games next year.

[cp176]

I think Eovaldi prices himself out of Boston.

 

You know it really is going to be interesting to see what happens. Kelly said it best - it really is a shame that the entire same groups won't be back next year. I don't know about Eovaldi. It still wouldn't surprise me at all if they make him a priority this off-season.

[cp176]

Pedey will play 140+ games next year.

 

 

Are you having one of those moments???

[notin]

Sox will likely make every reasonable effort to sign Eo. There are not many teams that will be able to afford him and Boston just happens to be one of them. So actually he probably is "priced out" of about 25 of the 30 markets.....but I don't think he is necessarily priced out of Boston.

 

Eovaldi certainly did himself favors this year, but he might not be as in demand as many people think.

 

Fans may not be influenced by his health history, but GMs have to consider it. They do have all those player physicals done for a reason. And this is a guy whose already been traded three times and released once, and is only two years removed from a 1 year $2mill contract with an option for one more year.

 

He’ll certainly top that by a lot money wise, but I don’t expect the years to be all that long. If he gets 4 years, that’s about his maximum.

 

But he should be around $10mill per, with possibly a greater annual salary for fewer years. That seems to be the going rate for oft-injured but talented starting pitchers...

[moonslav59]

Eovaldi certainly did himself favors this year, but he might not be as in demand as many people think.

 

Fans may not be influenced by his health history, but GMs have to consider it. They do have all those player physicals done for a reason. And this is a guy whose already been traded three times and released once, and is only two years removed from a 1 year $2mill contract with an option for one more year.

 

He’ll certainly top that by a lot money wise, but I don’t expect the years to be all that long. If he gets 4 years, that’s about his maximum.

 

But he should be around $10mill per, with possibly a greater annual salary for fewer years. That seems to be the going rate for oft-injured but talented starting pitchers...

 

The good thing is, we can probably afford $44M/4, as long as we don't address the pen with much added money.

[Bellhorn04]

The good thing is, we can probably afford $44M/4, as long as we don't address the pen with much added money.

 

Done.

[Thunder]

Even if Pedey retires, I'm not sure we pick anyone up for 2B. Nunez & Holt can show what they got next year, and maybe this is the year Marco Hernandez finally gets healthy.

 

Pedey's not retiring until he requires a wheelchair to take the field

[mvp 78]

Are you having one of those moments???

 

One of those moments where I sound crazy at the time, but 6 months later everyone is on board? Maybe!

[moonslav59]

Done.

 

Let's assume we sign Eovaldi, and all our starters are healthy next year.

 

Here's all the 19 pitchers who can be part of our pen next year, and it's a lot of arms- some marginal options (assuming no Kelly or Kimbrel):

 

Barnes 2 options

Brasier

Hembree 0 options

Workman 0 options

Poyner 2 options

Scott 1 option

Thornburg 1 option

Smith 2 options

Walden 1 option

Lakins (rule 5)

Feltman (not rule 5)

 

Starters to the pen or AAA?

Wight 0 options

Johnson 0 options

Velazquez 2 options

D Hernandez (rule 5)

Shawaryn (not rule 5)

Shepherd-2

Cuevas-0 options

Haley -2

 

 

 

[Slasher9]

Okay, word it this way, even if he never puts a uniform on again or never makes the active roster again.

David Wright. he is "retired" but only unofficially so that he can cash check$ the next two $ea$on$....

[oldtimer]

Let's assume we sign Eovaldi, and all our starters are healthy next year.

 

Here's all the 19 pitchers who can be part of our pen next year, and it's a lot of arms- some marginal options (assuming no Kelly or Kimbrel):

 

Barnes 2 options

Brasier

Hembree 0 options

Workman 0 options

Poyner 2 options

Scott 1 option

Thornburg 1 option

Smith 2 options

Walden 1 option

Lakins (rule 5)

Feltman (not rule 5)

 

Starters to the pen or AAA?

Wight 0 options

Johnson 0 options

Velazquez 2 options

D Hernandez (rule 5)

Shawaryn (not rule 5)

Shepherd-2

Cuevas-0 options

Haley -2

 

 

 

 

It appeared obvious to me and was actually said by Cora that he prefers BP arms to feature velocity. Those included Kimbrel, Kelly, Barnes, Brasier and Hembree. All we had beyond them was Workman and Pomeranz. Of course that was during the PO's. we would have taken another pitcher in the regular season in addition to our 5 starters. Possibly that would have been Wright if he was healthy.

 

I don't see Cora changing his attitude so I see Brasier, Barnes and Hembree coming back. I also see us making a push to resign Kelly. He may have turned the corner and become a real candidate for the closer position going forward and might be resigned for significantly less that Kimbrel. I have heard that Feltman looks like he may make the jump to the majors in 2019 and he has legitimate velocity as well.

 

Maybe we have 5 starters (none being Pomeranz and with he and Kimbrel gone we can get Eovaldi) and Kelly, Brasier, Barnes, Hembree, Feltman, Wright and one other. Smith has potential, Poyner would give us a lefty who was nearly on the PO team. Of course we waqnt to keep high potential arms in the minors for future call up.

[moonslav59]

David Wright. he is "retired" but only unofficially so that he can cash check$ the next two $ea$on$....

 

Or, this^^^