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With Eovaldi on the team the priorities shift to relief pitching and second base. I'd settle for either at this point. A number of possibilities at 2nd and fill-in relief pitchers are out there. It will be interesting what DD can come up with to strengthen the team.
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With Eovaldi on the team the priorities shift to relief pitching and second base. I'd settle for either at this point. A number of possibilities at 2nd and fill-in relief pitchers are out there. It will be interesting what DD can come up with to strengthen the team.

 

I'm starting to think that the Red Sox aren't in on Cabrera (Mets, 2b) at all -- I can't find any reports linking them to Cabrera. While I haven't looked at the defensive metrics, I have heard that they aren't very friendly to Cabrera and so maybe the Red Sox don't want to deal with his defense. Sure, Nunez is weak defensively too, but Holt is pretty solid defensively.

 

What other 2b are out there? I'm forgetting someone?

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With Eovaldi on the team the priorities shift to relief pitching and second base. I'd settle for either at this point. A number of possibilities at 2nd and fill-in relief pitchers are out there. It will be interesting what DD can come up with to strengthen the team.

 

I am fine with what we have at 2nd base.

 

Get us a late inning reliever and call it a day.

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I'm starting to think that the Red Sox aren't in on Cabrera (Mets, 2b) at all -- I can't find any reports linking them to Cabrera. While I haven't looked at the defensive metrics, I have heard that they aren't very friendly to Cabrera and so maybe the Red Sox don't want to deal with his defense. Sure, Nunez is weak defensively too, but Holt is pretty solid defensively.

 

What other 2b are out there? I'm forgetting someone?

 

There are some that are out of reach including Merrifield. The two others who might help us are Schoop of the Orioles who is definitely in trade talks and Dozier of the Twins who is also out there. There is competition for both and both tend to get hot near the end of the season. Schoop is also just 26 so the price might be high, but if we could have him for a few years it might be worth the plunge.

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yep, back end reliever is more critical than 2B on this team.

 

If the skanks make a move for a starter i expect a move for either a relief pitcher or bat.

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I expect the skankees to make a move for another starting pitcher.

 

They really need two. Sonny Gray has been awful, as has German. Tanaka has not even been as good as Johnson and Sabathia is an injury waiting to happen.

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In all fairness most of us over value our own prospects and poo-poo the other teams prospects....

 

This is an absolute fact and i am glad that you are the one who mentioned it. We all want to see our own guys developed into becoming stars but in this case with Evoldi once again, we are likely trading a young man who might or might not help us someday in a limited capacity because he just ain't as good as his minor league stats say he is, for someone who has a legit power arm and is still a young man. 2 tommy Johns is a concern but I think worth the risk. No question - beat some other teams to the punch - very good signing.

 

I don't think that DD is done just yet either.

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Dombrowski cannot get into a game of tit for tat with NYY. He doesn’t have the prospect firepower to do it. He needs to focus on his squad. I think Dombrowski gets a “ham and egger” (stolen from another poster) starting pitcher to stabilize the Pom spot and then they’ll add a reliever. They cannot be playing games with the Yanks should they land an ace

 

Dombrowski very likely is at the top of the food chain when it come to all of the wheeling and dealing. I think that they we are in fairly capable hands.

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This is an absolute fact and i am glad that you are the one who mentioned it. We all want to see our own guys developed into becoming stars but in this case with Evoldi once again, we are likely trading a young man who might or might not help us someday in a limited capacity because he just ain't as good as his minor league stats say he is, for someone who has a legit power arm and is still a young man. 2 tommy Johns is a concern but I think worth the risk. No question - beat some other teams to the punch - very good signing.

 

I don't think that DD is done just yet either.

 

His delivery’s a concern for me but he throws over 95 consistently.

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With 59 games and the playoffs lurking, is the 2Bman team of Holt/Nunez going to affect you more than the absence of a decent LH reliever ? One set of players will shareplay all 59 games plus the playoff series (120 AB's++eachl), the LH pitcher may only see action for an inning in 25 games, 75 outs out of over 1500 needed from now to Sept 30.

 

You have to know that Pedroia, aside from the monetary value of the contract, will try to play later this year, and for sure in ST 2019. Whether he can is TBD. I am guessing DD goes for the reliever and lives with HOLT/NUNEZ to the consternation of some here.

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I expect the skankees to make a move for another starting pitcher.

 

Remember all the Skankee fans telling us how many holes are team had?

 

Look who is scrambling to fill holes, now!

 

Big holes with big-named players, too.

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With 59 games and the playoffs lurking, is the 2Bman team of Holt/Nunez going to affect you more than the absence of a decent LH reliever ? One set of players will shareplay all 59 games plus the playoff series (120 AB's++eachl), the LH pitcher may only see action for an inning in 25 games, 75 outs out of over 1500 needed from now to Sept 30.

 

You have to know that Pedroia, aside from the monetary value of the contract, will try to play later this year, and for sure in ST 2019. Whether he can is TBD. I am guessing DD goes for the reliever and lives with HOLT/NUNEZ to the consternation of some here.

 

Agreed. It's Nunez & Holt at 2B for the remainder.

 

RP'ing is now DD's focus, although he might be happy moving Pom or Johnson to the pen, especially if Eovoldi does well his first few starts and/or Wright comes back strong.

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Forgetting Brandon Phillips as an unknown quantity right now, if you do go find another 2Bman, that will work in September with the expanded roster and a deeper bench including Holt and Nunez. But when the playoffs start, whether WC or ALDS, you will need to cut at least one of these guys from that group. Not likely, but Pedroia could find a miracle cure for his knee inflammation on Sept 1 out in the AZ desert with Carlos Castenada and the Yaqui Guardians leaving DD holding the bag with 4 2Bman. Who do you leave off the playoff roster in that scenario. Why do I think the thunder from above proclaims Nunez the odd man out ?
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Remember all the Skankee fans telling us how many holes are team had?

 

Look who is scrambling to fill holes, now!

 

Big holes with big-named players, too.

schadenfreude

Posted
Forgetting Brandon Phillips as an unknown quantity right now, if you do go find another 2Bman, that will work in September with the expanded roster and a deeper bench including Holt and Nunez. But when the playoffs start, whether WC or ALDS, you will need to cut at least one of these guys from that group. Not likely, but Pedroia could find a miracle cure for his knee inflammation on Sept 1 out in the AZ desert with Carlos Castenada and the Yaqui Guardians leaving DD holding the bag with 4 2Bman. Who do you leave off the playoff roster in that scenario. Why do I think the thunder from above proclaims Nunez the odd man out ?

 

We may go with one less pitcher for the playoffs, since there are more days off and the 5th starter is often used in long relief, if needed- saving the pen further.

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schadenfreude

 

We've had our share of misfortunes, but seem to have less holes to fill.

 

Pedey

ERod

Wright

Pom

Vaz

Smith

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We may go with one less pitcher for the playoffs, since there are more days off and the 5th starter is often used in long relief, if needed- saving the pen further.

 

We still could use a reliable RP since Kelly hasn't been that of late. I also would take a 2nd baseman, particularly if he had more than a rental status. Pedroia is not likely to get better as a 37 year old, even if he makes it back next year.

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We still could use a reliable RP since Kelly hasn't been that of late. I also would take a 2nd baseman, particularly if he had more than a rental status. Pedroia is not likely to get better as a 37 year old, even if he makes it back next year.

 

Just to be clear, Pedroia turns 35 on August 17.

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Remember all the Skankee fans telling us how many holes are team had?

 

Look who is scrambling to fill holes, now!

 

Big holes with big-named players, too.

 

I wouldn't go past tense on it just yet. Jacko has the impressive ability to tell us how everything is wrong with the club when we are 5.5 games in the lead, never mind behind.

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We still could use a reliable RP since Kelly hasn't been that of late. I also would take a 2nd baseman, particularly if he had more than a rental status. Pedroia is not likely to get better as a 37 year old, even if he makes it back next year.

 

I still think that the Sox are trying their darnedest not to go over the next luxury tax limit, and will do so unless they are met with a deal that they simply can't refuse. To me, that means that Dombrowski will get a relief pitcher and that will be it.

 

If I had to choose between adding a late inning reliever or a 2B, I would add a reliever. I don't think anyone that we could add at 2B would be a significant upgrade.

Posted
Yeah I'm with you, I really think we are trying our hardest to stay under this year. Maybe if something falls into our laps that we can't pass up... but otherwise I think we will be trying our hardest not to go over that limit.
Posted
Maybe Trade within Roster next. But wont get much for some of the guys that we might Trade. Prospects next maybe on return?
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I don't see us going large at 2B, unless we find a way to dump Nunez & his salary, which is highly unlikely.

 

We signed Nunez as Pedey insurance. He may be playing hurt or just in a funk, but I think DD will ride this one out.

 

I'm thinking we go for the best set-up man we can get at the most reasonable cost. (Sounds like an over simplification, granted)

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yep, back end reliever is more critical than 2B on this team.

 

It might be worth pointing out that the acquisition of Eovaldi increases bullpen depth by putting a former starter in that role. If everyone is ever healthy, that might put Pomeranz in the bullpen.

 

Whoever goes back there will certainly take a few innings and lighten the load for Kelly.

 

Also I wouldn’t be surprised if the emergence of Hembree hasn’t lessened the need for a back end reliever in DD’s eyes...

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