4/26 Red Sox at Jays

[mvp 78]

They better not let Kimbrel walk.

 

Pay the man.

[mvp 78]

Hopefully you weren't a beer guy! You beer, granted in retrospect (as I drank a good deal of it), was absolute shyte!

 

Anyway.... you, as always, get a pass.

 

 

p.s. Oregon is BEER central these days. BEST micro-brews in the country!

 

Debatable.

[mvp 78]

Good memories!

 

Bad beer

 

High Life is a good (mass produced) beer. I don't buy it often, but wouldn't turn one down.

[S5Dewey]

High Life is a good (mass produced) beer. I don't buy it often, but wouldn't turn one down.

 

IMHO Miller High Life is the best of the commercially produced domestic middle of the road beers, and Rolling Rock is the best of the cheap beers.

 

That's not to say that either of them actually qualify as being "good beer". :-)

[mvp 78]

IMHO Miller High Life is the best of the commercially produced domestic middle of the road beers, and Rolling Rock is the best of the cheap beers.

 

That's not to say that either of them actually qualify as being "good beer". :-)

 

Anything can be a good beer if you enjoy drinking it. The Champagne of Beers is great if you're chilling at home eating some nachos and homemade burritos. It's perfectly fine. It's actually better than many micro brews that I've wasted money on. I haven't had one in forever, but I guarantee that if I had a sip of one right now it'd put a smile on my face.

[a700hitter]

Seriously you guys beat this dead horse into powder about 150 posts ago. I get that you disagree with other people about statistics and randomness and clutch and whatever else, but honestly like 50% of your posts lately are this same sarcastic stuff. Let it go already, or at least keep it in the threads specifically discussing those issues.

Also being beat to death is the mocking theme that observations of the game are biased and unreliable and that opinions based on statistics are facts. The statistics are facts. The opinions based on statistics are still opinions. And there has always been a lot of sarcastic remarks to go around on this board. It is part of the fun. Edited April 27, 2018 by a700hitter

[mvp 78]

Seriously you guys beat this dead horse into powder about 150 posts ago. I get that you disagree with other people about statistics and randomness and clutch and whatever else, but honestly like 50% of your posts lately are this same sarcastic stuff. Let it go already, or at least keep it in the threads specifically discussing those issues.

 

When the team is playing so well that all you have to argue about is defensive metrics...

[a700hitter]

How does the weather look for the game against Rays tonight?

[iortiz]

Regarding relievers, I think most of us think that most of them are crap shots. On the other hand, only a dozen or fewer can handle high leverage situations decently while staying relatively healthy, but not year after year consistently. Only a handful or fewer can handle consistently high leverage situations year after year while staying healthy —Kimbrel is one of them. Also, As I always have said, the 9th inning is not for everyone regardless the stats under your belt —Look at Miller, excellent reliever (setup man), awful closer.

 

Said that, pay the man.

[User Name]

Andrew Miller? When was he an awful closer? What?

[iortiz]

Well, I have some bad memories watching him closing. I have to check the numbers, but I could bet that his career SV% is not even 85%, which is not what you expect from a guy who is that good.

[User Name]

Miller has converted 86% (52/60) out of his career save chances, and at least three of those blown saves have happened in situations where he has not entered the game as the closer, but rather setting up. This is why checking before posting is important, and another instance where bias betrays the person.

[Jasonbay44]

Yeah, Andrew Miller is elite out of the pen, in any inning. Blown saves are a pretty dumb stat sometimes anyway, guys get blown saves for coming in game up 1 with bases loaded, no one out, and getting a double play that scores a run.

[mvp 78]

How does the weather look for the game against Rays tonight?

 

Rain is supposed to clear up by 6. Field will be really wet though.

[mvp 78]

Andrew Miller? When was he an awful closer? What?

 

4 blown saves for the Yankees in a year and a half. 4 blown saves combined with the Sox, O's, Tiggers, Marlins and Cleveland. Sounds like a good closer to me!

[mvp 78]

Well, I have some bad memories watching him closing. I have to check the numbers, but I could bet that his career SV% is not even 85%, which is not what you expect from a guy who is that good.

 

Amount of blown saves from his time with the Sox: 1. That's out of 145 appearances out of the pen for the Sox.

[a700hitter]

Miller was a poor example, but other excellent set up guys have been known to spit the bit in closing situations. In 29 Save opportunities, he had 4 saves and 25 blown saves. It was not a secret that he didn't like that situation. That is an extreme example, but there are other less extreme examples. Betances is a great set up guy, but not a great closer.

[mvp 78]

Rain is supposed to clear up by 6. Field will be really wet though.

 

@PortlandSeaDogs

 

Tonight's Sea Dogs game against the @ReadingFightins has been rained out. Doubleheader set for May 26th at 1:00 PM. https://atmilb.com/2KkS5dc

[User Name]

Miller was a poor example, but other excellent set up guys have been known to spit the bit in closing situations. In 29 Save opportunities, he had 4 saves and 25 blown saves. It was not a secret that he didn't like that situation. That is an extreme example, but there are other less extreme examples. Betances is a great set up guy, but not a great closer.

 

The choke is real, but it's an exception, not the rule.

[a700hitter]

The choke is real, but it's an exception, not the rule.

And striking out 50% of the batters faced is also an exception. That is harder to find than a 9th inning choker. LOL!! Sign him up. Edited April 27, 2018 by a700hitter

[d-money]

Any thoughts on the patriots draft from patriots fan? I got excited over nothing lol.

[iortiz]

86% is not an elite number to me. Miller is an excellent set up guy, but a closer? mmmmmm... the fact he is not, probably speaks volumes.

 

The point is that the 9th inning is not for everyone.

[moonslav59]

The year (2015) Miller closed the most his rate was 95%.

 

The other years were too small in sample numbers to be definitive.

 

I'd be thrilled to have Miller as my closer, especially since he can give me 2 innings quite often.

[iortiz]

So the other years don’t help but this does?

 

Thus far he is a 86 SV% closer— My guess wasn’t that bad LOL!

 

Yeah, the sample doesn’t help. A closer is typically your best RP. IMO Miller is better than Allen, but Miller doesn’t close. Think about it.

 

Probably Miller wasn’t the the best example, but would I give him Kimbrel’s money to play as a closer? Hell no.

 

The 9th inning is not for everyone —check out how many succeed trying to replace Papelbon no named Kimbrel.

[iortiz]

Kind of the point.

[S5Dewey]

The year (2015) Miller closed the most his rate was 95%.

 

The other years were too small in sample numbers to be definitive.

 

I'd be thrilled to have Miller as my closer, especially since he can give me 2 innings quite often.

 

But if he gives you two innings today is he coming back tomorrow?

 

My personal preference would be to use him (Miller for example) in the 8th if need be to put out a fire, then let someone else close out the 9th. Then he'd be available the next day to pitch the 9th if needed.

 

As an aside, is it my imagination or did Kelly's season get a kick-start when he plunked Austin? It seems like he's been almost untouchable since then.

[Kimmi]

Dombrowski might be thinking the same way. He's been waiting his whole life for a closer like this.

 

How much will it take though?

 

Dombrowski will likely overpay to keep Kimbrel.

 

I would not, but he likely will.

[cp176]

But if he gives you two innings today is he coming back tomorrow?

 

My personal preference would be to use him (Miller for example) in the 8th if need be to put out a fire, then let someone else close out the 9th. Then he'd be available the next day to pitch the 9th if needed.

 

As an aside, is it my imagination or did Kelly's season get a kick-start when he plunked Austin? It seems like he's been almost untouchable since then.

 

It's impressive with Kelly and it is really good to see.

[Kimmi]

High Life is a good (mass produced) beer. I don't buy it often, but wouldn't turn one down.

 

Beer just tastes nasty. Period.

[User Name]

86% is not an elite number to me. Miller is an excellent set up guy, but a closer? mmmmmm... the fact he is not, probably speaks volumes.

 

The point is that the 9th inning is not for everyone.

 

Sv% on outings where Miller actually came in as the closer: 52/57 or 91%. I clearly stated that in at least three instances while playing for the Tribe/Yanks, he blew saves as a SU man. It's not what it is "to you" because you're flat out wrong. Miller is a generational relief arm. Pick another example, there are many.