When will David Price Return to the Hill?

[a700hitter]

It will be interesting to see the distribution on this poll.

[Bellhorn04]

I had to go with one extreme or the other. He says he's fine so I said he'd make his next start. But God knows what's really going on inside his arm.

[moonslav59]

"I had no pain. I have no pain," Price told reporters (via ESPN.com), describing the issue as a lack of feeling in his fingertips on a particularly cold night in Boston. "Even when I came in and did all the stuff with the doctors, I still had no pain."

 

Price said the hand "thawed out" enough to throw a few balls against a wall in the training room after he was examined by team doctors. He was seen in the dugout by the end of the Red Sox's testy 10-7 loss. His next scheduled start is Monday against the Orioles in the Red Sox's annual early start on Patriots' Day.

 

"He's going to come back [Thursday], most likely play catch and go from there," manager Alex Cora said. "But it seems like he should be fine as of now."

[S5Dewey]

. It could be anything. I have no expectations either way. The thing I've learned is that the fact that our medical team says something doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't mean it's not true either. It just means they said it.

[Emp9]

It’s always something with this guy. Price is just a diva. Always has been.

[SoxnCycles]

It’s always something with this guy. Price is just a diva. Always has been.

 

What, players don't leave the game all the time with cold fingers?

 

Good thing for the snowflake that the weather is warming up.

[S5Dewey]

What, players don't leave the game all the time with cold fingers?

 

Good thing for the snowflake that the weather is warming up.

 

I do have to say that this doesn't bode well for October baseball.

[mvp 78]

I do have to say that this doesn't bode well for October baseball.

 

My Oct pen has Price in it. I think he's the starter with the best "relief" profile.

[mvp 78]

Price throwing in the OF right now. No issues.

[mvp 78]

@ScottLauber

 

David Price threw aggressively in the outfield. He “feels good,” according to #RedSox manager Alex Cora, and there’s a chance he could make his scheduled start Monday, weather-permitting.

[Natick to NC]

Where's the " David Price was humiliated last night and is a Pussy for bowing out " ...choice ??? Davis Price is a snowflake ...can't handle anything not going his way ...David takes his ball and storms home a lot growing up is what you would hear from his childhood friends ...David Price is a world class choker ....David price is just like millions that vote and there candidate gets smoked ....wahhhhhh wahhhhhh or at there job someone gets promoted over them wahhhhhh wahhhhhh ....They blame everything on something else ...never taking any and I mean anyyyyyy responsibility for the fail ....I don't have time for these losers .I wish we never gave this clown a contract and count the days until he's released .I feel similar thoughts about Porcello but atleast he gives everything he has and chokes .Booooo the living s*** out of snowflake Dave the next time he takes the hill . Edited April 12, 2018 by Natick to NC

[Spudboy]

Nonsense.

 

He has said and done some dumb-ass things while here.

 

He remains one of the most competitive starting pitchers in baseball.

[mvp 78]

Nonsense.

 

He has said and done some dumb-ass things while here.

 

He remains one of the most competitive starting pitchers in baseball.

 

Real talk.

 

An injury is an injury. I don’t think it makes him weak. He’s a good pitcher. People just don’t like his contract.

[Natick to NC]

Injury ???? I'm sorry did that injury pop up while Sanchez lost a ball in the stratosphere ??? Because that's what I saw ....or did it start When Brock lard couldn't field the opening dribbler in time ? I can't believe him when he's throwing from 180 feet today folks ...just won't ....I'm done with him .Im alittle pissed at David ...Im sorry it's so harsh but it's real .The money is not mine and could care less ...the effort is what I want . Edited April 12, 2018 by Natick to NC

[jad]

I despise Price and hope there's a way to get him out of a RS uniform. I also didn't see the game or get a detailed explanation for what happened. But what little I heard (persistent numbness in the fingertips) is certainly something I have experienced more than once while playing various sports in cold weather and I don't think it reflects on either my toughness or character. With more than small reluctance, I am willing to give this piece of crap a grudging pass on this.

[Natick to NC]

Cold fingers ....the guy had cold fingers ....I'm over it he clearly needs a DL stint for cold numb fingers ...

[fxkatt]

Numb fingers is a real problem for a pitcher. If it sticks for quite a long time, it can indicate a neurological problem or an injury.

 

Otherwise, the cold alone can do it. And does all the time to all of us who live in the northeast. I can get it at 36 degrees on some mornings. I feel otherwise warm enough, but my damn fingertips are frozen up and have no feeling (this after being out for 20 minutes). The idea of gripping a ball and putting stuff on it is out of the question. I say this because even using tools can be impossible.

 

Next time he pitches in cold weather, they should gear him up with a hand warmer or deep wooly pockets on his uniform.

[Jasonbay44]

Some of the posts on this thread are a f***ing joke... Price isn't a pussy, and the team is better with him.

[Natick to NC]

Price is day to day to month to who cares really .

[SoxHop]

Some of the posts on this thread are a f***ing joke... Price isn't a pussy, and the team is better with him.

 

I believe a healthy performing Price would have the most effect on this team, more than any other player. If he's solid this year, we are more than solid barring any other playiers injuries.

 

Fingers crossed.

[Sox75]

Can we just be honest. It certainly has been one thing after another with this guy....

 

Having said that, every time he comes back, I'm pulling like hell for the guy! ! ! ! I will pull for him AGAIN & AGAIN... So long as he is a Red Sox SP! I could not be more in his camp, but I'm not going to pretend that numerous "injuries" haven't been . . . "Nebulous." Almost always .... "--'convenient.' More often than not, the 'recovery' time extends beyond most expectations. Last year's 'injury,' directly after the dust up with Ek, went on FOREVER..... IT strained credulity. Sorry! -but it flat out did.

 

Again . . . I was extatic when he returned, and COMPLETELY DROPPED any and all frustration I was feeling, and ROOTED MY ARSS off for him. He did very well in the short series, and I could not have been more happy for him.

 

Yet, here we go again..... Something goes wrong in a start for him, COINCIDENTALLY ...... against his first REAL challenge. He gets knocked around by a good hitting team, and suddenly he's alluding to some possibly 'serious' .... albeit 'NEBULOUS' ..... 'condition.'

 

Does anybody here NOT remember just how hard it is to hit on a cold day? If you've forgotten, trust me.... it can be absolutely brural! I've done a fair amount of pitching, & a good amount of hitting. I would absolutely rather be a pitcher on a day like that! A fairly serious neurological disease ruined my sports life, but even in middle age, I could still bring the heat, and cntrol severely numb fingers. Even on cold days. Not NEAR at that level, but muscle memory is a stunning friend! Nubbing a pitch with your bat on a cold day still strikes fear into any hitter. You never forget doing it. It haunts hitters. You feel the sting all night, and think about it for weeks....

 

Long story.... but the short story is this. WAY TOO OFTEN I get the distinct feeling that Price has become way too familiar with .... again .... nebulous 'non-excuse excuse making. It's almost becoming somewhat of an art form. He's getting too good at it in my opinion. Those of us who have played recognize when a guy is trying to put up an excuse . . . CAREFULLY! without overtly making excuses. The back-peddling OFF the original excuse, after making an oblique .... non-excuse excuse, often seems to purposefully add credence to the validity of the excuse. With some guys, when things go badly, it becomes very predictable. Semi-casual, but wannabe golfers know exactly what I'm talking about. You know 'that guyl' Sorry! But that s*** gets old with the rank & file player. The guys get tired of it, and would much rather hear, "I simply f***ed up! I didn't do what I needed to do to be ready to pitch! Bottom line. They were ready, and I wasn't! I won't make that mistake again!" Even if you REALLY THINK you felt a 'twinge.' You just DON'T jump to putting that possible excuse out there! You wait a few days, and see if it was nothing. You suck it up . . . Wait . . . & then pitch your ass off next outing. By then, you'll likely know. At that point, you pitch if you feel fine. If you still don't feel right? Then you say something. Most competitors are loath to be 'that guy.' The non-excuse excuse guy.

 

I just don't completely trust where Price often SEEMS to be coming from.

 

I will STILL ROOT LIKE HELL for him, no matter which way this goes. I'm just starting to honestly wonder if he's a bit of a 'head case?' It may not be fair, but I sometimes wonder?

 

As I did with Buch, Kelley, & many other Red Sox pitchers.

 

Just my ******** opinion. . . . for whatever the hell it's worth? Which is almost certainly nothing!

 

p.s. I reserve the right to completely change my opinion within the week, or at any time during the season. I hope like hell I'm completely full of s***!

Edited April 13, 2018 by Sox75

[Natick to NC]

Can we just be honest. It certainly has been one thing after another with this guy....

 

Having said that, every time he comes back, I'm pulling like hell for the guy! ! ! ! I will pull for him AGAIN & AGAIN... So long as he is a Red Sox SP! I could not be more in his camp, but I'm not going to pretend that numerous "injuries" haven't been . . . "Nebulous." Almost always .... "--'convenient.' More often than not, the 'recovery' time extends beyond most expectations. Last year's 'injury,' directly after the dust up with Ek, went on FOREVER..... IT strained credulity. Sorry! -but it flat out did.

 

Again . . . I was extatic when he returned, and COMPLETELY DROPPED any and all frustration I was feeling, and ROOTED MY ARSS off for him. He did very well in the short series, and I could not have been more happy for him.

 

Yet, here we go again..... Something goes wrong in a start for him, COINCIDENTALLY ...... against his first REAL challenge. He gets knocked around by a good hitting team, and suddenly he's alluding to some possibly 'serious' .... albeit 'NEBULOUS' ..... 'condition.'

 

Does anybody here NOT remember just how hard it is to hit on a cold day? If you've forgotten, trust me.... it can be absolutely brural! I've done a fair amount of pitching, & a good amount of hitting. I would absolutely rather be a pitcher on a day like that! A fairly serious neurological disease ruined my sports life, but even in middle age, I could still bring the heat, and cntrol severely numb fingers. Even on cold days. Not NEAR at that level, but muscle memory is a stunning friend! Nubbing a pitch with your bat on a cold day still strikes fear into any hitter. You never forget doing it. It haunts hitters. You feel the sting all night, and think about it for weeks....

 

Long story.... but the short story is this. WAY TOO OFTEN I get the distinct feeling that Price has become way too familiar with .... again .... nebulous 'non-excuse excuse making. It's almost becoming somewhat of an art form. He's getting too good at it in my opinion. Those of us who have played recognize when a guy is trying to put up an excuse . . . CAREFULLY! without overtly making excuses. The back-peddling OFF the original excuse, after making an oblique .... non-excuse excuse, often seems to purposefully add credence to the validity of the excuse. With some guys, when things go badly, it becomes very predictable. Semi-casual, but wannabe golfers know exactly what I'm talking about. You know 'that guyl' Sorry! But that s*** gets old with the rank & file player. The guys get tired of it, and would much rather hear, "I simply f***ed up! I didn't do what I needed to do to be ready to pitch! Bottom line. They were ready, and I wasn't! I won't make that mistake again!" Even if you REALLY THINK you felt a 'twinge.' You just DON'T jump to putting that possible excuse out there! You wait a few days, and see if it was nothing. You suck it up . . . Wait . . . & then pitch your ass off next outing. By then, you'll likely know. At that point, you pitch if you feel fine. If you still don't feel right? Then you say something. Most competitors are loath to be 'that guy.' The non-excuse excuse guy.

 

I just don't completely trust where Price often SEEMS to be coming from.

 

I will STILL ROOT LIKE HELL for him, no matter which way this goes. I'm just starting to honestly wonder if he's a bit of a 'head case?' It may not be fair, but I sometimes wonder?

 

As I did with Buch, Kelley, & many other Red Sox pitchers.

 

Just my ******** opinion. . . . for whatever the hell it's worth? Which is almost certainly nothing!

 

p.s. I reserve the right to completely change my opinion within the week, or at any time during the season. I hope like hell I'm completely full of s***!

 

Maybe the greatest post ever created on Price ...I am so angry with Price for many of the same reasons and my response is way over the top ...your perspective is spot on and I'll leave it there ....what you did though is get me back to rooting for his success ...I truly Thankyou for this because I hate feeling that way about one of our own .Sox 75 nominated early on for post of the year .

[fxkatt]

Try going out to work on your car in sub 32 weather and see what happens to the tips of your fingers, and notice the clumsy way you handle tools.

 

And you ain't no elite pitcher who is totally dependent on his right hand and the feel of the ball, but only some guy working on a car and feeling frustrated as hell.

[Sox75]

Try going out to work on your car in sub 32 weather and see what happens to the tips of your fingers, and notice the clumsy way you handle tools.

 

And you ain't no elite pitcher who is totally dependent on his right hand and the feel of the ball, but only some guy working on a car and feeling frustrated as hell.

 

 

No doubt fxkatt! Fair point. BUT . . . The fact is that DP is not working on cold conducting metal. LIKE EVERY OTHER PLAYER in the mlb, on any given cold night, Price is gripping and throwing the baseball. A beautifull leather wrapped, well rubbed baseball. The same baseball being hit by every batter faced. The same baseball every hitter avoids hitting on the end of their bat on outside pitches. The same baseball every player on the field cringes at when their mate at the plate grounds out on when they SLAP a MAJOR stinger on, grounding out with a weak dribbler to 1st. OUCH! God damn it that hurt like hell! Jesus, Mary, & Joseph that hurt! F THAT! I'm letting every outside pitch go! Anything near or on the outside of the plate! Srew that!

 

"I wonder how that other pitcher feels? I wonder if he is feeling some 'weird tingling' in his finger tips? That POS Yankee pitcher is just hiding it!" I wonder if those Yankum hitters are feeling any 'weird tingling?' I know they are GD it! Why aren't they talking about it? Those sneaky bastards are just hiding it. Why can't they just cop to it! Man up Yankums! BE HONEST like our man DP!

 

Edited April 13, 2018 by Sox75

[SoxnCycles]

Try going out to work on your car in sub 32 weather and see what happens to the tips of your fingers, and notice the clumsy way you handle tools.

 

And you ain't no elite pitcher who is totally dependent on his right hand and the feel of the ball, but only some guy working on a car and feeling frustrated as hell.

 

True.

Maybe he should have a discussion with Chris Sale.

I'm pretty sure it was as cold, if not colder the day before. It didn't seem to bother Sale much.

[Sox75]

and then again . . . Price is more likely . . .?

 

http://www.weei.com/articles/column/reimer-ridiculous-claim-david-price-faked-thumb-issue

 

Perhaps it really is true that David is just 'more sensitive' than most pitchers? How can you possibly fault a guy for feeling & perceiving weather more than other guys? One thing DP can never be accused of, is being a Climate Denier! Sure . . . East Alglia was an unfortunate incident temporarily setting back the cause, but Climate is a real thing! Don't blame Price for being more sensitive than flat earthers like Sale!

Edited April 13, 2018 by Sox75

[fxkatt]

That numbness is quite different with each person, and usually occurs quicker with age. Price is 32 and probably more cold weather sensitive than most on top of a few years older. As I said earlier, he could also have a neurological problem which has not yet manifested.

 

Some people's feet freeze up real quickly and with others it's their hands. The finger problem is very common, which is why all kinds of hand warmers have been "invented" to deal with this.

 

I can recall the same assaults on Lebron James when he was pulled out of two different playoff games because of muscle cramps in his legs. Everyone was ripping him, no doubt mostly people are not that affected or even tortured by them. This can be an excruciating pain when it occurs in the thighs--and when you can't walk it off or massage it out.

[mvp 78]

When a guy was on and off the dl last year with elbow issues, I'm not surprised if they start having numbness in their fingers the next year. He's going to have a long DL stint again this year most likely. I don't think the weather was the issue. I think the health of his arm was the issue.

[fxkatt]

When a guy was on and off the dl last year with elbow issues, I'm not surprised if they start having numbness in their fingers the next year. He's going to have a long DL stint again this year most likely. I don't think the weather was the issue. I think the health of his arm was the issue.

 

I agree. Good point.

[Bellhorn04]

That numbness is quite different with each person, and usually occurs quicker with age. Price is 32 and probably more cold weather sensitive than most on top of a few years older. As I said earlier, he could also have a neurological problem which has not yet manifested.

 

Some people's feet freeze up real quickly and with others it's their hands. The finger problem is very common, which is why all kinds of hand warmers have been "invented" to deal with this.

 

I can recall the same assaults on Lebron James when he was pulled out of two different playoff games because of muscle cramps in his legs. Everyone was ripping him, no doubt mostly people are not that affected or even tortured by them. This can be an excruciating pain when it occurs in the thighs--and when you can't walk it off or massage it out.

 

You are being far too fair and reasonable here.