Pedroia undergoes microfracture surgery

[S5Dewey]

The procedure is a wing and a prayer. Some guys do well with it. 75% of people who undergo the procedure note an improvement, but there isn't a measure of how much the improvement is. The improvement might be to walk without pain. Well, to be an elite athlete, the improvement needs to be "back to normal" and there isn't anything quantifiable to say if that's of high likelihood or not. There are some success stories, but there are a lot of failures as well. It seems the younger players do the best with this as it is with most things. Pedroia isn't a young player anymore. If this doesn't work, then he's likely to be on the 60 day and then released next year while counting towards the cap. If this is just some routine inflammation and he returns close to his former self, then great for you. But the possibility is there that this knee will never heal and he will not be able to function as a professional baseball player

 

Thanks, Manny! Now can we sign you to a multiyear, multimillion dollar contract?

[Kimmi]

Pedroia will be back soon and he will contribute to the team. Book it.

[fxkatt]

It seems that if they're treating soreness after a few games with 10-days rest, it's not all that likely that Pedroia will be our everyday second baseman this year. Sounds like at best he platoons with Holt.

 

It's a good thing we got off to a good start because we may need the padding the way things are turning downward. Are you all ready for a single game showdown at Fenway with the Angels in Oct.

[jad]

Having had microfracture surgery (shoulder) I can say that for me at least it was useless. The cartilage that is formed is of poor quality. I would think that it being exposed to repeated trauma that professional athletes subject the new cartilage to means an even lower success rate. Probably time for Pedroia to hang them up.

Here is one article that supports what I believe to be true:

 

"This research review in the Journal Arthroscopy reviewed 15 higher quality research papers that had been published about the effectiveness of microfracture. These studies usually compared the outcomes (how well patients fared) of microfracture to other cartilage repair techniques. Their conclusions? The majority of the studies reported poor clinical outcomes and two reported no improvements in the treated patients. Small-sized lesions and younger patients showed good results in the short-term. However, treatment failure could be expected within 5 years even in patients with small cartilage lesions.

 

The upshot? When you look at the high quality studies published on microfracture, despite its widespread use, it doesn’t work well. So why are we still performing this surgery?

 

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Not being a doctor, I had naively assumed that something called 'microfracture surgery' was a procedure designed to CURE microfractures. It never occurred to me that it created such fractures in the hopes that the dumb-ass body would try essentially to cure the wrong thing. Having finally looked at the list of athletes who have had it (among them Greg Oden, YIKES!), I can now see why the RS need to consider another 2nd base man.

[jacksonianmarch]

Kimmi, I commend your optimism, but the odds are against him. Pedey’s body has been subjected to a lot and it’s crying uncle

[bosoxmal]

Neither did I.

I have never doubted this.

 

Neither did I. Even the best of things come to an end sometime!

[jad]

Thank you, Youk and JasonBay, for the block function.

[Larry Cook]

Kimmi, I commend your optimism, but the odds are against him. Pedey’s body has been subjected to a lot and it’s crying uncle

 

Pedroia came back at least a month too soon.

 

It isn’t that his body is breaking by down, it is that the knee is not healed and he pushed it too hard.

 

I would think that our crackhead medical staff would know that pedroia will do whatever it takes to get back on the field and slow him down, for his own good!

[FredLynn]

Not being a doctor, I had naively assumed that something called 'microfracture surgery' was a procedure designed to CURE microfractures. It never occurred to me that it created such fractures in the hopes that the dumb-ass body would try essentially to cure the wrong thing. Having finally looked at the list of athletes who have had it (among them Greg Oden, YIKES!), I can now see why the RS need to consider another 2nd base man.

 

Essentially what the procedure involves is poking holes in the bones of the joint to induce bleeding. The resulting scar is loosely called cartilage, but its a very poor form of cartilage. The original cartilage is called articular cartilage and its fibers are much more closely knit than the cartilage formed in microfracture surgery which is called fibrocartilage. Ideally the holes in the bone induce blood carrying stem cells from the marrow so that new articular cartilage is formed, but this almost never happens completely. So eventually that cartilage wears down and again its bone on bone arthritis. Sometimes it works for a few years; sometimes it doesn't work at all. It almost never results in a satisfactory long term result, even for people who are not professional athletes.

Edited June 3, 2018 by FredLynn

[Youk Of The Nation]

I love Pedroia as much as the next Sox fan, but the last few weeks have convinced me that it is more likely than not this will be his last season. If the surgery doesn't work, we may have already seen his final game. I hate to say that out loud, but I have to be realistic. It doesn't seem very likely that Pedroia will ever be in a position to contribute to the Sox on the field again.

[Larry Cook]

I love Pedroia as much as the next Sox fan, but the last few weeks have convinced me that it is more likely than not this will be his last season. If the surgery doesn't work, we may have already seen his final game. I hate to say that out loud, but I have to be realistic. It doesn't seem very likely that Pedroia will ever be in a position to contribute to the Sox on the field again.

 

I really hope this is a worst case scenario. The guy I saw at Pawtucket, was swinging the bat good and appeared to be pain free. Timing was off, but that is fixable.

 

And again, it was way too early for him to be putting so much pressure on the surgically repaired knee and that is the fault of the crackerjack medical staff.

 

Who besides us, fields a 200 million dollar roster and hires a 10 cent medical staff?

[jacksonianmarch]

You don’t have a 10 cent medical staff. From what I’ve heard, there is more meddling from the organization in medical affairs than anything else. It’s difficult to render a complete and concise opinion on something when it’s skewed by what the team wants.

[cp176]

I love Pedroia as much as the next Sox fan, but the last few weeks have convinced me that it is more likely than not this will be his last season. If the surgery doesn't work, we may have already seen his final game. I hate to say that out loud, but I have to be realistic. It doesn't seem very likely that Pedroia will ever be in a position to contribute to the Sox on the field again.

 

so sad but likely the fact

[oldtimer]

so sad but likely the fact

 

The prudent thing to do is to develop a long term solution to 2nd base, even if Pedey gets back this year. I don't see either Holt or Nunez as that person and the only one I can think of who might do it is Marco Hernandez if he gets back off the long term injury report list. I don't know many left handed 2nd basemen though. I suppose Chavez has a chance but to date he has only been used at 3rd.

[jad]

The prudent thing to do is to develop a long term solution to 2nd base, even if Pedey gets back this year. I don't see either Holt or Nunez as that person and the only one I can think of who might do it is Marco Hernandez if he gets back off the long term injury report list. I don't know many left handed 2nd basemen though. I suppose Chavez has a chance but to date he has only been used at 3rd.

 

I do! My grandfather, graduated from college in 1898. He claimed his throw to second was awesome. Big Sox fan (although he must have been around well before they were). I'm not sure he's available, but I'm pretty sure he's not under contract elsewhere.

[jad]

Pedroia came back at least a month too soon.

 

It isn’t that his body is breaking by down, it is that the knee is not healed and he pushed it too hard.

 

I would think that our crackhead medical staff would know that pedroia will do whatever it takes to get back on the field and slow him down, for his own good!

 

Acc. to what FredLynn has posted, what happens in this last-ditch-effort procedure is not really 'healing', so there's no getting the body back to normal. Hard to blame the medical staff for this.

 

(And just an aside--didn't Mookie come up as a 2nd baseman? I haven't been following this, but has that obvious solution been rejected? I realize he's become a gold-glove RF, but this shouldn't be a disqualification.)

[oldtimer]

I do! My grandfather, graduated from college in 1898. He claimed his throw to second was awesome. Big Sox fan (although he must have been around well before they were). I'm not sure he's available, but I'm pretty sure he's not under contract elsewhere.

 

You must be old like me. My grandfather was born in 1872 and worked as an engineer in the Pennsylvania oil fields when they first came in. My dad was born in 1896 and was an avid fan of the Sox and went through a lot of disappointing seasons with them. 1949 was one where it looked like the Sox could do it but it wasn't to be.

[Kimmi]

It seems that if they're treating soreness after a few games with 10-days rest, it's not all that likely that Pedroia will be our everyday second baseman this year. Sounds like at best he platoons with Holt.

 

It's a good thing we got off to a good start because we may need the padding the way things are turning downward. Are you all ready for a single game showdown at Fenway with the Angels in Oct.

 

Long season to go. I am in no way ready to hand the division crown over to that Evil team. The Sox will hold their own.

[jacksonianmarch]

Long season to go. I am in no way ready to hand the division crown over to that Evil team. The Sox will hold their own.

 

Far too early to crown anyone, I agree

[Station 13]

I really hope this is a worst case scenario. The guy I saw at Pawtucket, was swinging the bat good and appeared to be pain free. Timing was off, but that is fixable.

 

And again, it was way too early for him to be putting so much pressure on the surgically repaired knee and that is the fault of the crackerjack medical staff.

 

Who besides us, fields a 200 million dollar roster and hires a 10 cent medical staff?

I don't think you can fault the medical staff for something like this. Pedroia knee is what it is, perhaps shot.

[jad]

You must be old like me. My grandfather was born in 1872 and worked as an engineer in the Pennsylvania oil fields when they first came in. My dad was born in 1896 and was an avid fan of the Sox and went through a lot of disappointing seasons with them. 1949 was one where it looked like the Sox could do it but it wasn't to be.

 

Ha! Yup. I was alive, but blessedly too young to see Pesky hold the damn ball!

[mvp 78]

I don't think you can fault the medical staff for something like this. Pedroia knee is what it is, perhaps shot.

 

Medical staff is just an easy target.

[Spudboy]

I love Pedroia as much as the next Sox fan, but the last few weeks have convinced me that it is more likely than not this will be his last season. If the surgery doesn't work, we may have already seen his final game. I hate to say that out loud, but I have to be realistic. It doesn't seem very likely that Pedroia will ever be in a position to contribute to the Sox on the field again.

 

I have been saying similar things since the end of last season.

 

But "If anyone can do it Pedey can" seems to be the rally call around here.

 

Put sentiment aside and consider we have seen the last of good Pedroia.

 

Sox need to find a starting quality second baseman very soon.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Spudboy

[S5Dewey]

I have been saying similar things since the end of last season.

 

But "If anyone can do it Pedey can" seems to be the rally call around here.

 

Put sentiment aside and consider we have seen the last of good Pedroia.

 

Sox need to find a starting quality second baseman very soon.

 

Thanks, Manny! You #$&%@#$.

[Spudboy]

Thanks, Manny! You #$&%@#$.

 

I don't get your post. Manny? wut

[Kimmi]

Medical staff is just an easy target.

 

I don't think the medical staff is at fault here, but they don't have the best reputation of 'diagnosing' things correctly.

[Kimmi]

I have been saying similar things since the end of last season.

 

But "If anyone can do it Pedey can" seems to be the rally call around here.

 

Put sentiment aside and consider we have seen the last of good Pedroia.

 

Sox need to find a starting quality second baseman very soon.

 

I'm not giving up on Pedey so soon.

 

I have learned they you don't count him out.

 

I am confident that he will be back and will contribute to the team.

[Bellhorn04]

I don't get your post. Manny? wut

 

Machado.

[S5Dewey]

Machado.

 

We have a winner!!!

[jad]

Machado.

 

Hey. Don't look at me. It's them. It's them!