2017 Rotation Discussion

[dustcover]

O.K., with Price and Pomeranz presumably scheduled for the DL, which 'healthy' starters are available to make up the 5-man rotation as of Opening Day and going forward?

 

Are we looking at:

 

Porcello

Sale

Wright

Rodriguez

Kendrick

[mvp 78]

My guess:

Porcello

Sale

Rodriguez

Wright

Kendrick

 

Pom goes on 15 DL, Price is put on 60 DL.

 

Johnson or Elias will be first call up. Owens will not be on roster at all this year. He's traded in the offseason for a garbage UTIL.

[moonslav59]

My guess:

Porcello

Sale

Rodriguez

Wright

Kendrick

 

Pom goes on 15 DL, Price is put on 60 DL.

 

Johnson or Elias will be first call up. Owens will not be on roster at all this year. He's traded in the offseason for a garbage UTIL.

 

What's the start date on Price's 60 day DL?

[rkarp1]

isn't the DL now 10 days?

[mvp 78]

isn't the DL now 10 days?

 

I'm including 5 days for paternity leave.

[Nick]

Pom has not had one decent outing....he needs to pitch in a minor league game.

 

I want to see if Kendrick is real or not. Give him one start.

[Kimmi]

Pom has not had one decent outing....he needs to pitch in a minor league game.

 

I want to see if Kendrick is real or not. Give him one start.

 

I would like to see Kendrick too, but as Fisk correctly pointed out, minor league deals do not carry options. Once Kendrick is on the major league roster, we risk losing him if we send him back down. Therefore, the Sox are not likely to put him on the 25 man roster for just one or two starts.

 

I have been reading several other names besides Kendrick that the Sox are considering if they need someone for one or two starts until Pom is ready.

[Fisk]

I would like to see Kendrick too, but as Fisk correctly pointed out, minor league deals do not carry options. Once Kendrick is on the major league roster, we risk losing him if we send him back down. Therefore, the Sox are not likely to put him on the 25 man roster for just one or two starts.

 

I have been reading several other names besides Kendrick that the Sox are considering if they need someone for one or two starts until Pom is ready.

 

I'm pretty sure Price is not going on the 60 day dl. Already throwing. long toss, if everything goes ok looking like a May return.

[Fisk]

I would like to see Kendrick too, but as Fisk correctly pointed out, minor league deals do not carry options. Once Kendrick is on the major league roster, we risk losing him if we send him back down. Therefore, the Sox are not likely to put him on the 25 man roster for just one or two starts.

 

I have been reading several other names besides Kendrick that the Sox are considering if they need someone for one or two starts until Pom is ready.

 

I agree only way Kendrick is going to make that start is if they believe Pom and Price are going to be out an extended period.;

[Kimmi]

I'm pretty sure Price is not going on the 60 day dl. Already throwing. long toss, if everything goes ok looking like a May return.

 

Agreed.

[Kimmi]

I agree only way Kendrick is going to make that start is if they believe Pom and Price are going to be out an extended period.;

 

Agree with this also. They will not put him on the major league roster if they know he'll only be needed for one or two starts.

[bosoxmal]

I think we're looking at "RICK & CHRIS," then, "HIT or MISS"

[mvp 78]

That poem is dumb. The rest of the staff was pretty good that year. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BSN/1948.shtml

 

While Spahn had a 3.3 WAR, Voiselle had a 3.1 WAR, Bickford had a 2.6 WAR.

[mvp 78]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/john-farrell-says-boston-red-sox-left-hander-david-price-making-his-way-back-little-by-little

 

Farrell seems to think that Pom will be ready for the start in Detroit.

[moonslav59]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/john-farrell-says-boston-red-sox-left-hander-david-price-making-his-way-back-little-by-little

 

Farrell seems to think that Pom will be ready for the start in Detroit.

 

JF should try to have the pen arms fresh that day, if possible.

[Fisk]

JF should try to have the pen arms fresh that day, if possible.

 

I would take Pom any day as my 5th starter.

[cp176]

JF should try to have the pen arms fresh that day, if possible.

 

Not sure it is going to make much difference. They were pretty fresh yesterday.

[bosoxmal]

That poem is dumb. The rest of the staff was pretty good that year. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BSN/1948.shtml

 

While Spahn had a 3.3 WAR, Voiselle had a 3.1 WAR, Bickford had a 2.6 WAR.

 

The quote was "Spahn then Sain, then pray for rain. There were two or three varities, but that was the most popular. No, I didn't make it up (or look it up). I remember it vividly; the Braves were my favorite team at that time. PS I don't think there was such a thing as WAR at that time.

[bosoxmal]

According to Wiki:

 

Like the double-play combination of Tinker, Evers, and Chance, Warren Spahn and Johnny Sain were linked together in verse. The poet responsible for this pairing was Gerald V. Hern, an editor of the Boston Post. In September of the 1948 season he penned an ode to the Boston Braves aces:

 

First we’ll use Spahn, then we’ll use Sain,

Then an off day, followed by rain.

Back will come Spahn, followed by Sain,

And followed, we hope, by two days of rain.

[FredLynn]

Pom has not had one decent outing....he needs to pitch in a minor league game.

 

I want to see if Kendrick is real or not. Give him one start.

 

Seems more than a little strange that the Sox signed a guy, Kendrick, who cannot realistically be brought up to the majors to pitch except under the most dire of circumstances. That doesn't leave us with much for a spot start here and there. I certainly never want to see Owens in a Sox uniform again; Johnson and Elias are not much better, and as I recall, Elias was injured (he may be OK by now). What's Fister up to?

[Bellhorn04]

Rick and Chris, and pray for piss?

[bosoxmal]

Rick and Chris, and pray for piss?

 

Or, Rick & Chris and hope David joins the list.

 

At least it's not as dire as it lokks for the Yankees!

[moonslav59]

I would take Pom any day as my 5th starter.

 

Me too, but with his health in question, it could be a short outing, even if he is doing well.

 

(Although I hated the trade, I like Pom.)

[Fisk]

Me too, but with his health in question, it could be a short outing, even if he is doing well.

 

(Although I hated the trade, I like Pom.)

 

Farrell said he was consistently in low 90s in Monday's outing, a good sign that's where he was last year.

[Emp9]

Really? I'm kind of excited about who fills out the rest of the rotation. In fact, with Price out for the first month, at least we have the opportunity for two guys to win the job by performance and not anything else.

[S5Dewey]

According to Wiki:

 

Like the double-play combination of Tinker, Evers, and Chance, Warren Spahn and Johnny Sain were linked together in verse. The poet responsible for this pairing was Gerald V. Hern, an editor of the Boston Post. In September of the 1948 season he penned an ode to the Boston Braves aces:

 

First we’ll use Spahn, then we’ll use Sain,

Then an off day, followed by rain.

Back will come Spahn, followed by Sain,

And followed, we hope, by two days of rain.

 

My first thought when I saw this thread was that Mal would be chiming on on this. How ya doing, ol' friend?

[moonslav59]

Farrell said he was consistently in low 90s in Monday's outing, a good sign that's where he was last year.

 

Good news. I'm not down on Pom. He could be MLB's best #5 starter. He's probably better than 20 teams' #4 and 10 teams' #3.

 

The main reason I hated the trade was that I think Espi has a super high ceiling.

[a700hitter]

That poem is dumb. The rest of the staff was pretty good that year. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BSN/1948.shtml

 

While Spahn had a 3.3 WAR, Voiselle had a 3.1 WAR, Bickford had a 2.6 WAR.

A perfect example of how stats can be misleading. The rest of that staff was a bunch of nobodies.

[Dojji]

I think we're looking at "RICK & CHRIS," then, "HIT or MISS"

Completely disagree. I think you're selling Steven Wright in particular hella short. And I have faith in ERod to match his bad games with good games, at least well enough to feature in the bottom of a rotation. Pomeranz is the only guy I ever worried about.

[mvp 78]

A perfect example of how stats can be misleading. The rest of that staff was a bunch of nobodies.

 

They were nobodies who pitched pretty well. They weren't really "pray for rain" types. They were perfectly capable pitchers.

 

The bigger issue is the nostalgia for a time when baseball was king and s***** poems became somehow important.