2016 Trade and Roster Move Speculation thread

[Bellhorn04]

^This.

 

OK - who do we give up in return?

[User Name]

That's a great question, and above my pay grade.

[mvp 78]

OK - who do we give up in return?

 

For Pomeranz AND Myers?

 

It would have to be a pretty substantial package. ERod, Devers, Moncada, Travis and Owens at the very least. Maybe they'd want Swihart instead of Devers? Idk.

[User Name]

Trading ERod for Pomeranz plugs a hole creating another.

[Eddy Ballgame]

For Pomeranz AND Myers?

 

 

It would have to be a pretty substantial package. ERod, Devers, Moncada, Travis and Owens at the very least. Maybe they'd want Swihart instead of Devers? Idk.

 

Moncada seems to be as untouchable as it gets at this point. I can't see them ever including him in a deal for Myers/Pomeranz.

 

IMO, John Jay makes a lot more sense than Myers, as he is a left hander who compliments Young, and he won't cost nearly what Myers will.

[jacksonianmarch]

Beware the Drew Pomeranz. The kid has been dominant in pitcher's parks but his walk rate is insane. And he is basically a two pitch pitcher. Bringing him to Fenway is probably a good way to get a poor return on investment. Also, the guy is a walking DL stint

[mvp 78]

Trading ERod for Pomeranz plugs a hole creating another.

 

I agree, but I don't see them moving Pomeranz for a package of Owens, Johnson and Trey Ball.

[User Name]

Beware the Drew Pomeranz. The kid has been dominant in pitcher's parks but his walk rate is insane. And he is basically a two pitch pitcher. Bringing him to Fenway is probably a good way to get a poor return on investment. Also, the guy is a walking DL stint

 

I think it's more the walk rate than anything else, as his contact profile and K% are both great.

[mvp 78]

Moncada seems to be as untouchable as it gets at this point. I can't see them ever including him in a deal for Myers/Pomeranz.

 

IMO, John Jay makes a lot more sense than Myers, as he is a left hander who compliments Young, and he won't cost nearly what Myers will.

 

I agree that he's untouchable, but to get Myers here would take a substantial trade. I also agree that John Jay would be a much easier acquisition.

[mvp 78]

Beware the Drew Pomeranz. The kid has been dominant in pitcher's parks but his walk rate is insane. And he is basically a two pitch pitcher. Bringing him to Fenway is probably a good way to get a poor return on investment. Also, the guy is a walking DL stint

 

So a better version of Joe Kelly then?

[Eddy Ballgame]

I agree that he's untouchable, but to get Myers here would take a substantial trade. I also agree that John Jay would be a much easier acquisition.

 

It sounds like San Diego isn't "looking" to move Myers, but will for the right package. I just don't think he's the type of player I want to move top prospects for, and I agree, the package will be substantial.

[Gringo]

We should trade Pedroia and Castillo for starting pitching, and call up Moncada.

[Jasonbay44]

We should trade Pedroia and Castillo for starting pitching, and call up Moncada.

 

I'm sure we can get an elite pitcher for a s***** outfielder that no one wants and a 32 year old injury prone 2B who has 6 years and 87 million left on his contract.

[mvp 78]

We should trade Pedroia and Castillo for starting pitching, and call up Moncada.

 

If they did this, either Holt or Marrero would be the starting 2b.

[Jasonbay44]

Pedroia has way more value to this team than he does in trade, and Castillo wont net us anything, he has been horrible and his contract is awful.

[bowman]

Moncada,Devers,Benintendi,for Trout.

[bowman]

Shaw has a great swing for a young player. You for sure are off base on him....

[Jasonbay44]

Angels aren't moving Trout without Betts and/or Xander involved, along with some prospects. I don't see a deal happening

[bowman]

Not so sure. Depends how hot Mancada and Ben get at AA

. Trout alone is not going to help LA. For sure, for it to happen, it will be all about timing. I know I would have to look at it hard if I was rebuilding...

[mvp 78]

Moncada,Devers,Benintendi,for Trout.

 

Plus Espinoza, Shaw, Doubon and...

[Bellhorn04]

Not so sure. Depends how hot Mancada and Ben get at AA

. Trout alone is not going to help LA. For sure, for it to happen, it will be all about timing. I know I would have to look at it hard if I was rebuilding...

 

Angels are not a poor team and it doesn't take that long to put together a team that can at least contend for a Wild Card. Trout is a pipe dream.

[mvp 78]

Their farm system is dirt poor though.

[Bellhorn04]

Their farm system is dirt poor though.

 

Fair enough. But with Trout under control through 2020, they shouldn't be in any hurry to trade him unless they get one of those 'blow you away' offers. With the Sox, such an offer has to start with Bogey or Betts, not just a bunch of unproven prospects.

[jacksonianmarch]

Trout is a generational player. You don't move a generational player for a bunch of high end prospects who haven't spent a day in the bigs

[moonslav59]

It's hard to make big blockbuster trades these days.

 

Contenders are not looking to trade great players, because they want to win now. With parity the way it is these days, just about every team is in contention or feels like they might be in a year.

 

Teams go from last to champions to last again (guess which team that was).

 

The very few teams not in contention don't have excellent young pitchers under team control for 3+ years at a reasonable cost.

 

To trade with a contender, you have to give ML talent in areas they need to get ML talent in areas they may have excess. That's not easy to match up with, because most teams do not have an excess of good young pitchers, except maybe the Mets.

 

I think we'll end up having to settle for a 3/4 slot type starter and overpay for that.

 

We may be able to lessen the overpay by taking on salary, either with the player we get or a tag along player like Mike Lowell was in the HanRam and Anibel Sanchez for Beckett deal.

 

Maybe someone will become available at the deadline, but I'd hate to overpay for a 2 month rental or aging pitcher with 1.3 or 2.3 years of team control remaining, especially if they are being grossly overpaid.

[oldtimer]

With Young down with what looks like hamstring injury that probably puts him out for 6 to 8 weeks, we only have a couple of legitimate outfielders on the roster. Holt will be back soon but I like his role as a utility player and as a infield sub. We will need an outfielder. Who knows who else could go down. I would bring up Benentendi now, and/or look for a trade to get someone to fill in the spot. Young may not be an answer for next year anyway, so having him in September is all we can look forward to. I believe Swihart is still a few weeks away but he also could help to answer our current shortage in the outfield.

[southpaw777]

They will use Holt and/or Brentz first before Benni gets a call..its looking like Swi should be back by august as well. Benni has been raking the last dozen games or so in AA, batting over 300 with a few HR after a slow start. My guess is he gets a sept callup...anything before that would be directly due to more injuries.

[moonslav59]

They will use Holt and/or Brentz first before Benni gets a call..its looking like Swi should be back by august as well. Benni has been raking the last dozen games or so in AA, batting over 300 with a few HR after a slow start. My guess is he gets a sept callup...anything before that would be directly due to more injuries.

 

Or, Holt & Brentz stinking up the place.

[mvp 78]

They are more likely to trade for an OF than bring Benintendi up midseason this year.

[jacksonianmarch]

I highly doubt they deal anything of value for an OF. Their offense can carry Holt in LF and Vazquez at C. The team cannot carry two dead weights in the rotation. And the team cannot continue to send Koji out there in tight spots. The rumor now is the sox are looking at Teheran and Vizcaino in Atlanta. I hated giving up Arodys for Vazquez years ago and after some injury, the kid is lights out. Teheran is finally putting it together as well. And Atlanta wont need now talent and both guys are under control for awhile. My guess is you'd have to part with prospects that hurt to get it done, but you wouldn't hurt the talent you have on the field