2016 Yankees Season thread

[Bellhorn04]

Tex looks to be out for the year.

 

It's incredible the health issues that guy has had.

[yankonyankee]

As a team, Yanks are dead last in baseball in % of balls hit hard, worse than the Phillies and Braves who don't use a DH. They just aren't hitting. Team looks old and overmatched offensively. Puts a lot of pressure on their pitchers, too and we've seen a lot of the younger pitchers struggle for a variety of reasons, and pressure to not give up runs might be a contributing factor. Baseball is a competitive and demanding sport. For old guys dealing with 160+ games almost every day wears on them. 2 months in and it looks like a losing season. Every team needs to rebuild. Question for yankees is how fast they can do it. We'll see.

[yankonyankee]

He's old - lot of wear. might never see him play for the yanks again. Yanks looking at Refsnyder - they're already in rebuilding mode and don't acknowledge it.

[Jasonbay44]

One of the rare times I'm rooting for the Yankees to win. Just see the Orioles as a way bigger threat this year, and this is an opportunity for the Sox to pick up a game on the Orioles. Yanks up 2-0 and still threatening.

[yankonyankee]

That hr he missed and they are reviewing won't count as part of balls hit hard. But you needed to extend the foul pole to measure that one.

Arod is hitting like CC is pitching - both need to be smart because they've both lost something.

[yankonyankee]

One of the rare times I'm rooting for the Yankees to win. Just see the Orioles as a way bigger threat this year, and this is an opportunity for the Sox to pick up a game on the Orioles. Yanks up 2-0 and still threatening.

 

Right now, the O's are a bigger threat. Yanks still aren't an automatic win, however. I can still see them finishing the year at .500

Edited June 5, 2016 by yankonyankee

[Jasonbay44]

Right now, the O's are a bigger threat. Yanks still aren't an automatic win, however. I can still see them finishing the year at .500

 

I don't count the Yankees out till they are officially eliminated.

 

Also, the Orioles starting pitching is horrific

[yankonyankee]

I don't count them out either. But I don't expect them to make the playoffs even if they aren't mathematically eliminated yet. I think there are sufficient reasons to make this a reasonable expectation. But you never know. Yanks will have to get younger. Father time catches up with everyone. I don't expect Arod to hit 40 hrs anymore. They need some power in that lineup.

[yankonyankee]

As for starting rotations, Yanks could have as good a one as anyone else in the division by year's end. The division is still open. Yanks aren't great, but they are still entertaining, at least for me. For this year at least, if the Yanks were to buy ( and I think a lot of people are already asking/speculating on what they might sell), they could seek to upgrade a bat or let the young guys struggle to develop or sign a pitcher and opt to try to outpitch teams. I don't think the Yanks will be able to outslug the 3 teams ahead of them. Instead, with their pen so strong, they could continue with one of their goals/hopes at the start of the season, which was outpitch and win some close games. But their pitchers have to be very good. Sox, O's and Rays have some fearsome hitters. It's still too early to sell anyway. I'd say another 3 or 4 weeks will decide.

 

Sox on the other hand, have a lot of young exciting players who have shown greatness in their short time up. They shore up that pitching a bit, and Sox fans will be very excited. They'll probably have to give up some talent to do it via trade, but they are flush with positional players stock in the minors. Have a good season, everyone.

Edited June 5, 2016 by yankonyankee

[Palodios]

This Yankee team seems like a prime candidate to pull in a wealth of prospects. Chapman, Nova, Beltran, Sabathia all are all on the last years of their contracts and Miller certainly is a juicy trade chip.

[Kimmi]

Tex looks to be out for the year.

 

This will likely end up being a blessing in disguise for the Yanks. Teixeira was playing below replacement level, with a -0.9 WAR. It won't be that difficult to find an "improvement".

 

The season ending injury to your 1B prospect, whose name escapes me, is really hurting right now.

[Kimmi]

One of the rare times I'm rooting for the Yankees to win. Just see the Orioles as a way bigger threat this year, and this is an opportunity for the Sox to pick up a game on the Orioles. Yanks up 2-0 and still threatening.

 

I can't root for the Yankees to win. I just can't. I don't like the Os much either, but I am pulling for them in this series. That said, having the Yanks win last night was not a bad thing.

[a700hitter]

I can't root for the Yankees to win. I just can't. I don't like the Os much either, but I am pulling for them in this series. That said, having the Yanks win last night was not a bad thing.

Neither can I.

[Bellhorn04]

I don't count the Yankees out till they are officially eliminated.

 

Also, the Orioles starting pitching is horrific

 

Which makes it about the same as ours.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Neither can I.

 

Same here. I can be happy that the Orioles lost, but that's not the same thing as being happy the Yankees won, and I certainly can't actively root for them during the game. I wonder though, if it came down to it, if I could. For example, if the Sox had played all of their games and were waiting for the result of one last game to determine whether they made the postseason or not, and that game was Yankees-Orioles or Yankees-Tigers or whatever. Could I root for the Yankees during the game if a Yankees win meant the Sox made the postseason, and a Yankees loss meant the Sox went home? Hmmm

[Bellhorn04]

Same here. I can be happy that the Orioles lost, but that's not the same thing as being happy the Yankees won, and I certainly can't actively root for them during the game. I wonder though, if it came down to it, if I could. For example, if the Sox had played all of their games and were waiting for the result of one last game to determine whether they made the postseason or not, and that game was Yankees-Orioles or Yankees-Tigers or whatever. Could I root for the Yankees during the game if a Yankees win meant the Sox made the postseason, and a Yankees loss meant the Sox went home? Hmmm

 

That doesn't count as rooting for the Yankees. Your only interest would be in a result that's beneficial for the Red Sox.

[Youk Of The Nation]

That doesn't count as rooting for the Yankees. Your only interest would be in a result that's beneficial for the Red Sox.

 

But watching or following a game and being happy when the Yankees score or when a Yankees pitcher strikes out an opposing player might feel too much like rooting for the Yankees. I really wish there was a way the Yankees and Orioles could both lose when they play. Where is a meteor strike when you need one?

[User Name]

Maybe one wins, but also gets its three best players injured (I never wish injuries on players, but f*** the Yankees)

[Youk Of The Nation]

BALTIMORE - In a stunning reversal of centuries of established precedent, God himself has reached down from the unfathomable heavens and smote both the New York Yankees and the Baltimore Orioles. According to shocked, reverent eyewitnesses early Sunday afternoon, as the Orioles participated in batting practice and the Yankees unpacked their bags in the visitors' clubhouse, a "gargantuan, flaming hand" descended from the clouds and scoured Camden Yards with white-hot fire. The flames almost instantly vaporized the Baltimore Orioles, and only the concrete walls of the ballpark prevented the outright vaporization of the Yankees as well, though it did not prevent their deaths. The only survivors in the ballpark were concession, groundskeeping, and security personnel. Fleeing staffers reported both hailstorms and thunderous rain, and more than one spoke in hushed terror of watching over 50 Yankees and Orioles players, coaches, and trainers perish beneath the cleansing fires of Almighty justice.

 

"I just...I don't know", said Mark Talbot of Annapolis. "One minute I was watching the Orioles stretching and preparing for the game, and the next minute, the air began to sear my skin and I watched Buck Showalter's face slide from his skull and puddle at his feet in a yellow swamp of rancid, bubbling fat." Other terrified witnesses described the horrifying specter of death sweeping around the field, cleaving heads from shoulders and disemboweling players at random before atomizing their corpses in flashes of fire. "Adam Jones' skeleton just stood there for a split second. It almost smiled, and then it exploded into millions of pieces and tore poor Schoop apart. This is the worst thing to happen to Baltimore since...well, I guess since at least yesterday.", said Andrea Knight of Baltimore. "The last thing this city needed was yet another smoking crater. But at least the Yankees went with them." Indeed, most of the survivors, while distraught at the loss of the only professional sports team in Baltimore not filled with unconvicted felons, were far more cheerful at the simultaneous destruction of the Yankees.

 

Oliver Gibson, the custodial supervisor of Camden Yards' clubhouses, described with glee the demise of New Yorks' most hated baseball team, which he observed firsthand before being miraculously transported unharmed to the street outside the stadium. "I'm pretty sure Rodriguez wet his pants when the ceiling started to collapse", Gibson said through strangled laughter. "And when the faceless, burning angels of God's vengeance stormed into the room and began rending the players limb-from-limb, I saw Girardi and Gardner try to use Sabathia as a shield. Didn't work, though, I think all three of them were skewered with a single sword."

 

In the wake of the incident, churches up and down the Eastern Seaboard have seen a marked increase in visitors. "I used to be an atheist", said Timothy Eastford of Boston. "But this has really changed my life. There truly is a God, and like all good, decent men he has announced publicly his loathing for the New York Yankees." Eastford announced that he intends to make a pilgrimage to the ruins of Camden Yards, to thank God for his good works by sacrificing a Yankees fan who has been bound and gagged inside a goat costume. Not all reactions to the attack by God have been positive, however. Speaking from his regular spot at Satan's private poker table, George Steinbrenner, former Yankees owner and father of current owners Hal and Hank Steinbrenner, made it clear that he does not support the actions of God in any matter pertaining to the New York Yankees. "I spent years hammering out my agreements with my beloved overlord, Satan, true master of man, and despite the clear language of our contracts, God still saw fit to interfere with the order of things.", Steinbrenner said as he laid out a heart flush and used his flabby arms to scoop the last of Adolf Hitler's stakes to his chest. "We were able to stay his hand in some matters, but that arrogant bastard still cost us the 1997 World Series. Guardians/Marlins? What the f***? Where are my five in a row?" Steinbrenner also threatened to use Hell's best lawyers to retaliate against God for the death of the entire Yankees active roster. "There's a reason Hell is still here. We have the best legal team that money or evil can buy." Steinbrenner said confidently as he dealt the second round of cards to Osama Bin Laden, John Wilkes Booth, and Dr. Christopher Harris, the man who advised against aborting the child that would later grow up to be Dane Cook.

 

God Himself could not be reached for comment, though a spokeswoman from his office warned Steinbrenner and Satan against any legal action. "We will brook no insolence from The Dark Lord Himself, nor from Satan. This action was an unambiguous statement by God that both the Yankees and Orioles can just suck it. Much as the volcano that erupted beneath the unoccupied Yankee Stadium yesterday, this should serve as a reminder of where the Master of All Creation stands on this matter. We had thought that all had been made clear back in 2001 when we let a bunch of guys in purple uniforms beat the best closer of all time, but obviously no one got the message. Well, so be it." God's office went on to explain that should Hell pursue litigation, God would respond by humiliation: shrinking the genitals of both living Steinbrenner brothers by five inches. God's spokeswoman then checked her notes and announced "Never mind, I guess only by half an inch. Whatever it takes to get them down to one."

 

More will be released as this story develops, the police and the government of Maryland are certain that further evidence will become available as the embers of God's Wrath cool enough to allow emergency crews access to the site, where they can dismantle the pyramid of skulls and determine the identity of each victim.

[jacksonianmarch]

If we are to rebuild the right way, we must start by dealing off Chapman. We dealt away two guys to get him, the best of which hasn't hit at all and the pitcher has a great AAA ERA but 18K in 38IP. Neither look to be real big league prospects. Now Chapman is beyond his suspension and has been lights out. He's the top of the line reliever on the market and should fetch a huge return. Sabathia has been awesome this year and his vesting option for next year is looking rather palatable. Should we be willing to eat some money, we might have the top rotation arm on the market too. Should we be willing to move Miller, we could get even more as he's got two years left of control.

 

If we are to do this right, we have to plan for next year to suck too. The FA market sucks after this season and our minor leagues have been hit by injuries as well.

[jacksonianmarch]

Well, that sucked. Blew chance after chance then saw two of our three headed monster blow a lead. Awesome.

 

This team cannot hit. And it relies on our rotation and pen to be perfect. Well, they wont be. CC was okay today, no runs, but 6BB in 5IP and 110 pitches. Betances leaves 2 on when the rains come and Chapman gives up two seeing eye hits plus an Ells error and we are down 2 without much of a shot to win.

[jacksonianmarch]

The most maddening thing about this team has to be Michael Pineda. Last night, he threw a solid 7IP with 3ER (all in one inning with a YS HR in there) and one of his final pitches was 97mph. He has an absolute wipeout slider as well. He is just so inconsistent. He can hold his velo late into games, he throws seeds and has a plus secondary pitch. Why, oh why does he look like a f***ing Pinata half the time he pitches?

[Spudboy]

The most maddening thing about this team has to be Michael Pineda. Last night, he threw a solid 7IP with 3ER (all in one inning with a YS HR in there) and one of his final pitches was 97mph. He has an absolute wipeout slider as well. He is just so inconsistent. He can hold his velo late into games, he throws seeds and has a plus secondary pitch. Why, oh why does he look like a f***ing Pinata half the time he pitches?

 

Probably suffers from the onset of Buchholtz Disease.

[jacksonianmarch]

His stuff is far better than Clay's. Maybe Clay circa 2008

[a700hitter]

His stuff is far better than Clay's. Maybe Clay circa 2008

Disagree. When right, Clay has a swing and miss changeup that is top shelf. I have not seen that recently though.

[Spudboy]

Disagree. When right, Clay has a swing and miss changeup that is top shelf. I have not seen that recently though.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure about that either.

 

I am hardly anyone who will lavish Buch with praise but I have seen the guy be completely dominant many times. He has wipe-out stuff when he is at his best.

 

But that does not happen with sufficient regularity.

[jacksonianmarch]

I am saying the Clay of today. Clay used to have wipeout stuff. The Clay of now does not.

 

Talking about wipeout stuff, Severino threw 6 shutout innings with 7K and 1 walk in AAA. He needs to stay down there for the month of June. This should allow his confidence to build and then bring him up when the typical injury/ineffectiveness bug hits again.

[Northern Star]

I hate Derek Jeter as much as the next Red Sox fan, but that nobody hack writer going off on him for his tribute to Ali was ridiculous. STFU idiot.

[jacksonianmarch]

Just pull the damn trigger already. If Beltran's injury is minor, he should be worth a fortune on the open market. He is the king of contract year production and this yr is no different. We need to rebuild. This team f***ing sucks ass right now

[jacksonianmarch]

Just a few things that need to happen....

 

Once Gary Sanchez returns from his hand injury, he becomes starting catcher. McCann gets to take some time off and play 1B, DH some and mostly rest his worn down body. Keep him fresh for next yr.

 

Once Beltran is dealt away, bring up Judge. The kid is kinda stagnating in AAA, give him a taste of the big time. If he responds and hits his potential, you have a star. If he sucks a bit, he can at least see what the life is like and work towards it for next yr.

 

Deal away Gardner. His OBP is solid, he still has blazing speed and he plays phenomenal D. He would be worth something serious on the open market. He has two years left on his contract and we are gonna suck next yr, so acquire prospects

 

Deal away 2 of the pen arms and keep Betances. Get some serious prospect capital.

 

Shoot Teixeira. He's done, take him behind the woodshed, break out the 12 gauge and put Old Yeller in the yard somewhere (figuratively, obviously, just cut him)

 

Release Roidhead, or plant some roids in his gym bag and call in a tip. He needs to go

 

See which pitchers can be moved. If Pineda's stock rises after a solid month or so, move him. Same with Eovaldi. This staff has too many fluctuations in production. Keep Tanaka, rebuild the rest