2016 Yankees Season thread

[jacksonianmarch]

CC has to go. Thank you for 2009. You're a deadbeat now.

[Station 13]

CC has to go. Thank you for 2009. You're a deadbeat now.

 

Is he still under contract next year?

[User Name]

Your tears nourish me.

[jacksonianmarch]

He's got a vesting option. Basically his shoulder needs to implode to not vest. I think they should just cut him. I know Hal hates eating money, but it's the cost of business. This team right now is bad

[jacksonianmarch]

UN?, just to give you an idea as to how excited I am for this season, this is the first year that I haven't bought nor planned a trip to NY to watch a game since med school

[User Name]

Stop, all this nourishment is going to make me put some of the weight I've lost back on.

[jacksonianmarch]

I'm the eternal optimist in March. But ARod looks done. He dropped a bomb yesterday on an 85mph change. The guy cannot get around on 90+ anymore. Ellsbury looks weak. Headley looks done. CC is done. I sense a purge in the FO although the long term deals handed out 6-8 yrs ago are killing us

[Bellhorn04]

Headley has a slugging pct. of .148. That's hard to do.

[jacksonianmarch]

His bat looks slow and his balance is off at the plate. He looks goat cheese level soft.

[StephenCurry30]

Yankees can have Chris Young back if they'd like

[Kimmi]

CC has to go. Thank you for 2009. You're a deadbeat now.

 

I didn't watch the Yankees game last night, but it doesn't seem like CC was the problem.

 

What did he pitch? 5 1/3, giving up 3 runs? Not great, but I'd take that all day long from my #5.

 

Your offense right now reminds me of our 2014 offense.

[Kimmi]

Headley has a slugging pct. of .148. That's hard to do.

 

Long live Pablo!

[jacksonianmarch]

Our offense flowed last year because the middle of our order was solid. Once ARod fell off a cliff and Tex got hurt, the rest of the offense followed, even though Bird was fantastic replacing Tex. We need to revamp the offense. Yes this is a 20 game sample size, but this is the oldest lineup in baseball by a lot. Eventually, Father Time wins

[User Name]

Such tears. Much nourishment.

 

[Station 13]

Our offense flowed last year because the middle of our order was solid. Once ARod fell off a cliff and Tex got hurt, the rest of the offense followed, even though Bird was fantastic replacing Tex. We need to revamp the offense. Yes this is a 20 game sample size, but this is the oldest lineup in baseball by a lot. Eventually, Father Time wins

 

yeah your lineup is the overpaid 30+ clubs by record setting.

 

When are we going to see these Refsnyder, Judge, etc guys?

[yankonyankee]

I expected this performance last year. Fans will just have to endure until the turnover and the sought after FA's like Harper become available. I miss George and wish Trump owned the team. He'd bring the same bombastic flair to ownership that made the Yankees so much fun during lean times.

[yankonyankee]

MLB: Yankee Stadium Introduces a New Way of Alienating Fans

 

Eric Schaat

 

You’ve heard of the $13 beers, the top-down strategy of keeping the 99% out of premium seats, and other types of alienation in play when you see the New York Yankees at home. Sadly, the disciples of Steinbrenner were just getting warmed up. On Opening Day 2016, Bronx brass unveiled one of the most offensive new quirks we’ve seen in a ballpark: mini-suites covered in dark glass that block the view of fans going from concessions stands to their seats.

 

In a twist that would make HBO’s John Oliver and his Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cringe, the Yankees surprised fans at the home opener against Houston with their latest twist in elitist excess at the Stadium. We came across them walking to right-field box seats when, to our left, we noticed glass enclosures tinted dark blue standing between us and the field. The little party areas, which measure about 15 ft. by 10 ft., replace what were previously open-air spaces between the concessions stands and field-level seating.

 

Unlike pillars, ushers, railings, or other natural obstructions, these eyesores were neither part of the stadium’s original design nor a welcome distraction to anyone in attendance on Opening Day. They effectively eliminate the ability for fans to experience the game while they return from buying a meatball sandwich ($14), two-foot cheesesteak ($27), or 12-ounce beer ($9.50). They also shut out fans in cheap seats who want a glimpse of what a premium location looks like.

 

We’ve never seen or heard of a ballpark where fans walking to their seats were cut off from the action on purpose by a team. There is nothing inherently wrong with the boxes, mind you. If they had clear glass, there would be no issue. You would see the game around people enjoying a gin-and-tonic and bean dip inside their enclosures. But the Yankees’ decision to tint the windows creates another barrier between the corporate class and everyone else. It’s part of an ugly progression.

 

As a season-ticket holder who transferred into this pricey locale from the old, rough-hewn Yankee Stadium, I experienced firsthand how the new Bronx cathedral shifted its focus to the privileged class. Fans who had quality seat locations were by and large disappointed with the new arrangements across the street. There were whispers of ticket brokers and corporate clients getting priority, but no one knew for sure. (Personally, I just let my ticket package lapse after the 2009 World Series.)

 

The more overt changes have been impossible to dispute, from the sky-high concessions prices to the private entrance and dining room that are part of the “Legends” experience. HBO’s John Oliver set his sights on these luxuries and highlighted comments by Yankees COO Lonn Trost that made new Stadium ticket policies sound like they were intended to keep millionaires separated from fans of lesser means.

 

Clearly, the Yankees did not create a stadium for the people when they moved the fabulously valuable franchise across 161st Street. New York has assumed separations for the super-rich and 99% already, so that part is to be expected. When they built physical partitions that began blocking the game from fans’ eyes, they crossed another line. This brand is about exceptional baseball and the thrill of the live event. Taking that away from fans — all fans — undoubtedly has The Boss rolling over in his grave.

 

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/mlb-yankee-stadium-introduces-a-new-way-of-alienating-fans.html/2/

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Yanks going where the money is, which is increasingly in the hands of a few privileged elite. It's a profit-making venture and won't change until the system falters. The criticism would be better served if it employed a larger scope.

[jacksonianmarch]

The strategy works when you're winning. It's the chic thing to do for the city's elite. But when you're losing, it will turn the stadium into a ghost town. This is not a good team. They find ways to lose and their offense, which used to bail them out, looks old and worn down.

[User Name]

That's because it IS old and worn down. Rodriguez is over 40, Beltran and Horseface are on the wrong side of 30, injuries have taken their toll on Ellsbury's body (he can still go, but his power has all but evaporated), Headley can't buy an XBH (well, a hit) and Gregorious has never hit much. That leaves you wit McCann, Gardner and Castro. Not a good offensive nucleus by any means.

 

Worry not though, as the weather warms up, more balls will fly out of that joke of a RF and the offense will be revitalized somewhat (but still suck). In the meantime, this is fantastic. Suck away!

[jacksonianmarch]

UN?, the way they've approached things since they went balls out with McCann and Ells on the offensive side is to not over extend. The FAs after 2016 are terrible. Barring an insane trade, we should see a youth movement of sorts next year with a probable slide to being bad with a rejuvenation coming 2017 and 2018 when the real prizes come available

[jacksonianmarch]

I am intrigued to see what happens in our FO should our offense continue to suck floppy donkey dick.

 

Offensively, I could see us move Beltran. The guy still has power and is a better fit as a DH. He wouldn't return too much, but could probably get us something while being a useful piece in his probable swan song season

Tex could be moved as well if we eat the salary. He's in his final season and we have his replacement recovering from shoulder surgery. He has a NTC, but I am sure he'd waive that if he had a chance to win a title.

Headley and Ellsbury are unmoveable. Gardner could be had for the right price, but with Ells regressing to sub-replacement levels, I wouldn't be surprised if he ascends to starting CF level. I don't see us moving McCann, especially since Sanchez is more offensively inclined and a good C would be integral into further developing our young rotation.

 

In the pen, I could see us extending Betances and dealing off Chapman and Miller. Chapman might be the best trade we've made in awhile. His DV issue hanging over him blunted the Reds' return. By the deadline, he'd presumably be in tip top form and past the spectre of his suspension. He could return a humongous haul. Miller, on his deal with 2 more yrs remaining at a reasonable price, could also return an insane package.

 

In the rotation, I don't think we see Tanaka move. He's an ace, when healthy. I could see someone wanting to "fix" Pineda. I think Nova is in our rotation before long and he could return something good if he shows well. I think Eovaldi is a part of the solution as is Severino

[Station 13]

your pitching need to rebound before the other pieces fall into place. the Red Sox were a mess the first 2 week, then their starting pitching come together behind Porcello and Wright. You can't play in this league falling behind early.

 

The 2nd WC is made for every team to play just good enough for a stretch to be in contention for a spot.

Edited May 1, 2016 by Station 13

[jacksonianmarch]

Our problem is that our rotation should be good enough to win if our offense hits. But our offense isn't hitting. This is making our pitchers try to be too fine and for everyone not named Tanaka, it's causing their performance to suffer. There is definitely a difference when you're pitching and you know one run might be all you get vs when your offense is hitting and you know they have your back.

 

The problem is, the guys aren't just hitting into bad luck. They look overmatched. This is an old team that finally fell off the cliff. You can only try to cheat Father Time for so lng before you get burned

[Kimmi]

Our problem is that our rotation should be good enough to win if our offense hits. But our offense isn't hitting. This is making our pitchers try to be too fine and for everyone not named Tanaka, it's causing their performance to suffer. There is definitely a difference when you're pitching and you know one run might be all you get vs when your offense is hitting and you know they have your back.

 

The problem is, the guys aren't just hitting into bad luck. They look overmatched. This is an old team that finally fell off the cliff. You can only try to cheat Father Time for so lng before you get burned

 

The Yankees are dealing with the back ends of several contracts. Let this be a lesson to fans who want to sign every superstar free agent to these ridiculous contracts. They will be great for a while, but they will likely eventually come back to bite you.

 

That said, it's still early. I don't ever count the Yankees out.

[jacksonianmarch]

When you're dealing with the back end, you can't miss on the front end of other contracts. The declines of CC, ARod, and Tex are being mingled with the failures of Headley and Ellsbury, who both should be prime performers based on age. This has led to a domino effect in the lineup

[Divinity]

This team is so awful I'd rather watch a Mets game over the 2016 Yankees.

[jacksonianmarch]

And I hate the Mets!

[yankonyankee]

he Empire Strikes Back isn't just a movie. It'll happen, just might not be this year. I'm not upset.

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Davidoff - NYP

 

BOSTON — Start small and think big.

 

There’s your solution to the Yankees’ early-season misery.

 

The Yankees’ offense woke up Sunday night at Fenway Park against David Price, so naturally, their pitching fell apart, with Nathan Eovaldi, Ivan Nova and Dellin Betances teaming for an 8-7 loss to the Red Sox, a series sweep by the home team and the Yankees’ fifth straight loss, giving them an overall record of 8-15. Brutal.

 

You want a repeat of 2005, when the Yankees enacted a series of changes on May 2 with an 11-15 record? Of course you do. That now exists as the gold standard of in-season reboots. The Yankees recalled Robinson Cano and Chien-Ming Wang from the minor leagues — they also enacted a few other changes (Tony Womack from second base to left field, Hideki Matsui from left field to center field and Bernie Williams from center field to part-time designated hitter) that didn’t stick, although no one remembers that part — and finished a stellar 95-67, winning the American League East.

 

Don’t anticipate such a revolution this time. That’s because those moves resulted from an actual revolution of sorts. General manager Brian Cashman, much of his roster put together by people besides him, received the green light from George Steinbrenner to clean up things however he saw fit. Cashman put together the bulk of this 2016 group, however, so he won’t be as desirous to blow it up.

 

With that in mind, here’s the road map to a subtle yet successful rejiggering of what we’ve seen so far, beginning with the easiest stuff and working up to the hardest:

 

1) Bench Chase Headley for Ronald Torreyes. This won’t require so much as a roster move. Headley, signed with the Yankees through 2018, owns a .423 OPS this season. Consider that CC Sabathia’s career OPS is .551.

 

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Ronald TorreyesPhoto: AP

Is Torreyes a long-term solution? Of course not. For now, though, put in a guy who will give you a consistently competitive at-bat. Headley, who went 1-for-4 with a single Sunday night, has not met that low bar.

 

2) Put Luis Severino on double-secret probation. These Yankees, like last year’s Yankees, are walking the tightrope between transition and contention. It wouldn’t necessarily make sense to trade prospects or take on a big contract.

 

Yet if the prized Severino can’t keep the Yankees in games, then he must return to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barres, where Luis Cessa and Chad Green — the two pitchers the Yankees received from Detroit for reliever Justin Wilson — both have performed well.

 

Severino will start the Yankees’ next game, Tuesday night in Baltimore. His last start, at Texas, wound up as his worst, as he lasted just three innings and allowed six runs.

 

“He’s never [gone] through a stretch like this,” Girardi said Sunday afternoon. “For him, that’s why I talk about just ‘Pitch by pitch. Slow it down a little bit.’ But he did show the ability to make adjustments last year, when he was struggling.”

 

3) Give fewer at-bats to Carlos Beltran, Alex Rodriguez and Mark Teixeira. Yes, even after A-Rod’s four-RBI outburst on Sunday night.

 

There is reason to believe that the more rest the Yankees’ three senior citizens get, the more effective they’ll be. A-Rod conceded late Sunday night that he benefited from two recent days off to rest his left oblique. Girardi made the right call Sunday not starting the switch-hitting Beltran, even though it meant starting lefty hitters Jacoby Ellsbury and Brett Gardner against Price.

 

Aaron Hicks, who is vastly superior to Beltran on defense, must get regular opportunities, and Dustin Ackley should get a chance to prove last September’s outburst meant something. And if any of the trio of elders gets banged up, the Yankees shouldn’t hesitate to put the player on the disabled list to recharge the player’s batteries and give themselves (and us) a look at minor league outfielders Ben Gamel and Aaron Judge.

 

4) Solve the Ellsbury problem.

 

This might be unsolvable, what with the center fielder in the third year of a whopping, seven-year, $153 million contract. At the least, the Yankees can alert the baseball world that Ellsbury, who doubled twice Sunday, is available at a heavy discount and see if someone bites.

 

None of this can equal calling up an all-time Yankee (Cano) and a groundball machine (Wang). It’ll help, though. At this juncture, would anything hurt?

[jacksonianmarch]

0 for 3 RISP so far. They suck

[Spudboy]

0 for 3 RISP so far. They suck

 

You know me Doc. I don't generally patronize. I believe that the Yankees will perform better this season.

 

They have to, right?