2016 Starting Rotation

[User Name]

As a Brit with a keen interest in US politics, this year has been quite something so far.

 

Trump is marginally more dangerous than Hillary. To think it will likely come down to those two...sweet Jesus.

 

Bernie all the way!

 

"Marginally" is quite the understatement fine sir, but they both suck. I feel the Bern bruh!

[User Name]

if by bag, you mean commercial fishing net

 

It'd break. Crate it is.

[Dojji]

you know, call me crazy, and I know the bottom of the rotation doesn't matter very much, but I think it'll be nice to see a knuckleballer take the mound again for his turn in the rotation. Not for any statistical or competitive reason, I just missed being able to see that style of pitcher on the team when Wakefield retired. I'm glad Wright had a good enough spring to crack the roster and I really hope he pitches well enough to justify a spot at the bottom of the rotation longterm. I think there's reason to have some confidence that wright can hack it as a serviceable bottom of the rotation guy, he's looked all right so far both this Spring and in the regular season. Fingers crossed.

[a700hitter]

As a Brit with a keen interest in US politics, this year has been quite something so far.

 

Trump is marginally more dangerous than Hillary. To think it will likely come down to those two...sweet Jesus.

 

Bernie all the way!

Brits have done just a fine job running their country. No thanks for any advice coming from the other side of the pond.

[User Name]

I'll take the brit style of country-running over what we have here though.

[a700hitter]

you know, call me crazy, and I know the bottom of the rotation doesn't matter very much, but I think it'll be nice to see a knuckleballer take the mound again for his turn in the rotation. Not for any statistical or competitive reason, I just missed being able to see that style of pitcher on the team when Wakefield retired. I'm glad Wright had a good enough spring to crack the roster and I really hope he pitches well enough to justify a spot at the bottom of the rotation longterm. I think there's reason to have some confidence that wright can hack it as a serviceable bottom of the rotation guy, he's looked all right so far both this Spring and in the regular season. Fingers crossed.

You must have a high threshold for frustration. Knuckleballers drive me up the wall.

[a700hitter]

I'll take the brit style of country-running over what we have here though.

What you have is better than the warlord rule on the other side of your island.

[User Name]

What you have is better than the warlord rule on the other side of your island.

 

Ha! You'd be surprised. We just got hit with a 200 million USD lawsuit because the government ripped off a company in a deal to install carbon plants (in 2016!) gone wrong. Guess who's footing the bill?

 

And out violent crime per capita, as a country, is higher than Flint, Michigan. Let that sink in.

[a700hitter]

Ha! You'd be surprised. We just got hit with a 200 million USD lawsuit because the government ripped off a company in a deal to install carbon plants (in 2016!) gone wrong. Guess who's footing the bill?

 

And out violent crime per capita, as a country, is higher than Flint, Michigan. Let that sink in.

Governments produce nothing and look to take everything that the people produce.

[User Name]

Governments produce nothing and look to take everything that the people produce.

 

How else is he going to finance his re-election campaign if not using public funds and completing shady deals with internationally wanted criminals! (Look up the Odebrecht scandal, it's required reading for the hilarity that passes for "democracy" in Latin America.

[Dojji]

Course the only real difference between Latin American democracy and the rest of the West is that the Latin Americans are more honest and as a result, less subtle. They'll do their dirty deals in the open where savvy American and Euro politicians and bureaucrats are a little more streetsmart about covering their tracks. But it's the same dirt, on the same hands, everywhere.

[User Name]

Course the only real difference between Latin American democracy and the rest of the West is that the Latin Americans are more honest and as a result, less subtle. They'll do their dirty deals in the open where savvy American and Euro politicians and bureaucrats are a little more streetsmart about covering their tracks. But it's the same dirt, on the same hands, everywhere.

 

Again, you'd be surprised. Look up the scandal for Brazil's Lula Da Silva. Dude sold himself as the paragon of cleanliness for years, and now he's likely to go to jail for money laundering and accepting bribes. All of this ties in to the aforementioned Odebrecht scandal, and it's a clusterf*** of Epic proportions.

[Spudboy]

you know, call me crazy, and I know the bottom of the rotation doesn't matter very much, but I think it'll be nice to see a knuckleballer take the mound again for his turn in the rotation. Not for any statistical or competitive reason, I just missed being able to see that style of pitcher on the team when Wakefield retired. I'm glad Wright had a good enough spring to crack the roster and I really hope he pitches well enough to justify a spot at the bottom of the rotation longterm. I think there's reason to have some confidence that wright can hack it as a serviceable bottom of the rotation guy, he's looked all right so far both this Spring and in the regular season. Fingers crossed.

 

I'm with you on this Dojji. If that unfortunate beaning had not interrupted his 2015, Wright may have proven to be the best choice for #5 before ST.

 

However, I kind of disagree with the idea that #5 does not count that much. Surely you could say this with some validity say, if a team had a stronger 1-4 than the Sox. A much stronger 1-4.

 

Not many teams are really strong 1-5 so I kind of understand what you are saying. But with this staff of unknowns 2-4, #5 becomes somewhat more important overall through an entire season.

[Spudboy]

Again, you'd be surprised. Look up the scandal for Brazil's Lula Da Silva. Dude sold himself as the paragon of cleanliness for years, and now he's likely to go to jail for money laundering and accepting bribes. All of this ties in to the aforementioned Odebrecht scandal, and it's a clusterf*** of Epic proportions.

 

I'll have to remember to look into that Odebrecht scandal. I do a lot of thinking about the different manifestations of corruption in different governments.

[jung]

you know, call me crazy, and I know the bottom of the rotation doesn't matter very much, but I think it'll be nice to see a knuckleballer take the mound again for his turn in the rotation. Not for any statistical or competitive reason, I just missed being able to see that style of pitcher on the team when Wakefield retired. I'm glad Wright had a good enough spring to crack the roster and I really hope he pitches well enough to justify a spot at the bottom of the rotation longterm. I think there's reason to have some confidence that wright can hack it as a serviceable bottom of the rotation guy, he's looked all right so far both this Spring and in the regular season. Fingers crossed.

 

Well you get your wish at least till Eddie comes back. I actually think that while Eddie would be preferred, since hitters really are still struggling for timing this early in a season, tossing Wright at them for this period actually works for us. Who knows.....he might displace one of the guys pitching ahead of him. There are a few candidates that might not make it very long in our rotation. If Wright is solid enough filling in for Eddie, he might get more starts. Elias so far seems like bust city. They don't trust Owens (neither do I) and Johnson is as usual apparently not ready for prime time.

[Hitch]

Brits have done just a fine job running their country. No thanks for any advice coming from the other side of the pond.

 

I didn't offer any advice.

 

That said, despite the fact we have a savage right wing government in place right now (that thinks it's okay to strip from the most needy, while offering tax cuts to the most well off), I've noticed people walking around in a daze over here recently. All muttering the same thing - "...at least not Trump"

 

Even in countries like the DRC and the Sudan, people are wandering around - "well sure...but at least not Trump"

 

Until it is made otherwise, I will continue to hope against hope in Bernie and his animal kingdom summoning ways. #feelthebird

[a700hitter]

I didn't offer any advice.

 

That said, despite the fact we have a savage right wing government in place right now (that thinks it's okay to strip from the most needy, while offering tax cuts to the most well off), I've noticed people walking around in a daze over here recently. All muttering the same thing - "...at least not Trump"

 

Even in countries like the DRC and the Sudan, people are wandering around - "well sure...but at least not Trump"

 

Until it is made otherwise, I will continue to hope against hope in Bernie and his animal kingdom summoning ways. #feelthebird

Maybe it is time to put someone in charge who will run it like a business with a real budget instead of treating the budget like a bottomless pit of imaginary money. Our last two presidents should be prosecuted for recklessly spending this country into a position where a click up in interest rates would cause economic devastation as the resulting debt service would blow our budgets out of the water.

[User Name]

Maybe it is time to put someone in charge who will run it like a business with a real budget instead of treating the budget like a bottomless pit of imaginary money. Our last two presidents should be prosecuted for recklessly spending this country into a position where a click up in interest rates would cause economic devastation as the resulting debt service would blow our budgets out of the water.

 

Then vote for Mitt Romney (I'm being facetious).

 

However, I will say this. I'm not dumb enough to think Trump's radical thoughts would fly if he actually were elected presidents. In the end, they all start to the extreme side of their party to appeal to their main constituency, then move farther and farther center in their actual executive decisions, because A) There are mechanisms in place to prevent them from doing stupid s***, It's politics, and these people are not stupid. Obama promised immediate pull out from Iraq, promoted an extreme pro choice agenda and massive wage increases, and none of those happened, because that's not how running the US (or any country) actually works.

[Hitch]

This is very true. For all his outrageous rhetoric and obscene posturing, he would very likely end up just being an enormously embarrassing, but basically - poor president. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

That said I'm not sure running a country like a business is at all sensible, but I'm positive asking a man to do it with the long list of business venture fails Trump has, is even less sensible.

[a700hitter]

This is very true. For all his outrageous rhetoric and obscene posturing, he would very likely end up just being an enormously embarrassing, but basically - poor president. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

That said I'm not sure running a country like a business is at all sensible, but I'm positive asking a man to do it with the long list of business venture fails Trump has, is even less sensible.

Please stop. We don't need Brits interfering in our politics.

[Hitch]

I think you are over estimating my abilities in being able to interfere with US politics.

[User Name]

That's......actually pretty clever. But seriously, let's ditch the politics talk, it never leads to any good.

[a700hitter]

Yep, and even us U.S. Citizens have no ability to interfere with U.S. politics, but discussion of it leads to no good.

[mvp 78]

Shoutout to the 4th amendment, the amendment that is trampled on more than any other...

[Spudboy]

As always talksox members have strong opinions.

 

UN is right. Let's drop it before the nastiness starts.

[mvp 78]

Too late. ANDREW W.K. IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT... HE'S RUNNING FOR THE PARTY PARTY.

 

Link for you old folks:

 

http://www.upworthy.com/this-wacky-rock-star-says-hes-running-for-president-28-reasons-thats-actually-awesome?c=hpstream

[mvp 78]

Way too early to say, but this team is toast if we get "Bad Buchholz" this year.

[Station 13]

Way too early to say, but this team is toast if we get "Bad Buchholz" this year.

 

I hope they don't build a team around this guy again. They should've learn by now.

[Bellhorn04]

Way too early to say, but this team is toast if we get "Bad Buchholz" this year.

 

He's only one of our 3 Mr. X's, though, with Kelly and Porcello. If 2 Mr. X's come through we're in good shape. But it's asking a lot.

[cp176]

Yep, and even us U.S. Citizens have no ability to interfere with U.S. politics, but discussion of it leads to no good.

 

stop that - You and I had a great discussion. You cleared some things up for me.