Jays At Red Sox

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

A700, that is no overreactipn my friend.

 

 

http://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/17211-Do-you-thinlk-it-was-a-good-idea-for-the-Red-Sox-to-extend-Wade-Miley-for-3-years

 

^This is full of overreaction.

[a700hitter]

Hannigan running the bases baffles me. He doesn"t appear to be moving that slow, but he has been thrown out at first after infielders have booted his groundballs, they did a juggling act and autographed the ball, and the play at first isn't even close. I swear, I think he could hit a ball into the triangle, the CFer could get knocked unconscious running into the wall and the RFer and LFer could collide and break each others legs and Hannigan would be held to a single.

[a700hitter]

A700, that is no overreactipn my friend.

 

 

http://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/17211-Do-you-thinlk-it-was-a-good-idea-for-the-Red-Sox-to-extend-Wade-Miley-for-3-years

 

^This is full of overreaction.

 

If you knew you were overreacting, you wouldn't be overreacting.

 

Also, I didn't say that others weren't overreacting. I said that it was not true that people are throwing in the towel on the season.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

It's really not, but if you say so. I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm not expecting anyone to act like this team is fine. We all knew pitching would be a problem. Right now they suck ass and deserve criticism. However, in imo a few bad starts and it seems like many people think we're doomed. I read some posts and just laugh at how ridiculous people act when things don't go our way. That's not even the worse part. I think complaining seems to be the trend, even when we do good. Here at talksox: Win by 10 runs? Complain. Ortiz only hit 3 HRs and not 4 in 4 ABs? Complain. Get a blowjob from Beyonce? Complain. Which is cool, this is a forum to express your concerns. I can already see it, "Man, this Sox team is so good! I knew it all along!" when the Sox kick ass, because they will eventually. This team won't look like this all season, I can guarantee it. In the end, you guys are free to say and do whatever you want. I just wanted to call out TW101.

[User Name]

It's really not, but if you say so. I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm not expecting anyone to act like this team is fine. We all knew pitching would be a problem. Right now they suck ass and deserve criticism. However, in imo a few bad starts and it seems like many people think we're doomed. I read some posts and just laugh at how ridiculous people act when things don't go our way. That's not even the worse part. I think complaining seems to be the trend, even when we do good. Here at talksox: Win by 10 runs? Complain. Ortiz only hit 3 HRs and not 4 in 4 ABs? Complain. Get a blowjob from Beyonce? Complain. Which is cool, this is a forum to express your concerns. I can already see it, "Man, this Sox team is so good! I knew it all along!" when the Sox kick ass, because they will eventually. This team won't look like this all season, I can guarantee it. In the end, you guys are free to say and do whatever you want. I just wanted to call out TW101.

 

Which is your prerogative. a700 is always whining about censoring or some such ********. But "censoring" and "overreactions" only apply when they suit his (and his cronies') agenda. And yes, they have an agenda, which is ridiculous considering this is a website dedicated to a baseball team.

[a700hitter]

It's really not, but if you say so. I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm not expecting anyone to act like this team is fine. We all knew pitching would be a problem. Right now they suck ass and deserve criticism. However, in imo a few bad starts and it seems like many people think we're doomed. I read some posts and just laugh at how ridiculous people act when things don't go our way. That's not even the worse part. I think complaining seems to be the trend, even when we do good. Here at talksox: Win by 10 runs? Complain. Ortiz only hit 3 HRs and not 4 in 4 ABs? Complain. Get a blowjob from Beyonce? Complain. Which is cool, this is a forum to express your concerns. I can already see it, "Man, this Sox team is so good! I knew it all along!" when the Sox kick ass, because they will eventually. This team won't look like this all season, I can guarantee it. In the end, you guys are free to say and do whatever you want. I just wanted to call out TW101.

It's harmless opinion. Get over it. State your own opinions and move on. Criticizing others for their own opinions always leads to a s*** show.

 

Edit: Do something useful with your time and kick U.N.'s ass and put it on Youtube so we can post it here.

[a700hitter]

A team is never as bad as it looks when it is going bad and is never as good as it looks when it is going good. We are .500 right now, neither good nor bad. Maybe this is what this team is -- good hitting and crappy pitching.

[mvp 78]

Boooooo Fred!!!

[SoxnCycles]

Boooooo Fred!!!

 

Pretty much says it all.

[VA Sox Fan]

As for Fred, we can only hope he has a really senior moment and forgets where his pc is.

 

We can all dream and hope.....

[iortiz]

He's been that way since I've joined. I'm telling you, he only appears to bitch. Then when the Sox do good, he'll say how good the team is. Act like he's been there from the start. Which will be 90 percent of the forum. The season is still young and it seems like everyone is throwing the white flag. Yeah this team has problems, what f***ing team doesn't? If this was August, i'd understand. We're still in April. You guys know what this team is capable of if they play to their potential. Idk if you guys just started watching the Sox play now, but the Sox are a team I've seen come back from really bad situations and make the best of it. I'm sorry if this post seems like I'm bashing at you, but I'm not. It's okay to be concern, but it seems like most people are giving up on certain players.

I think it was the first poll which I participated when I said that TW101, A700, SCM33, etc were the most knowledgable posters at the time. He used to participate actively. Somehow he is not posting as he used to, probably because his activities doesn't allow him, IDK. Also, he has an amount of posts which back up his interventions. IMO He has brought a lot to the table. In my case time to time I do not post that often as well because my personal life doesn't give me a chance, and when I want to post something when I have a chance, some have called me troll or whatever when I do not say good things about the team. I do not care, really, they are the same people.

 

In most of the cases I do not think it is an overreaction thing. Some posters saw this coming in the offseason, specially regarding pitching. Some said that it was going to be "good enough" and some like me said that this pitching staff could turn out into the worst rotation in the last 10 Y which is happening. Sure, it is still early, but honestly I do not see how this could turn around. If you had a guy like Lester who is struggling I could understand a real come back, because the stuff is there, but this staff? I see very little chances. Again, that is my opinion.

Edited April 29, 2015 by iortiz

[iortiz]

Which is your prerogative. a700 is always whining about censoring or some such ********. But "censoring" and "overreactions" only apply when they suit his (and his cronies') agenda. And yes, they have an agenda, which is ridiculous considering this is a website dedicated to a baseball team.

 

He doesn't whine. He emit opinions. Sometimes good ones and sometimes bad ones REGARDING THE TEAM, but it is always about baseball. On the other hand you have had a lot of fights with a lot of posters, and that is a fact. As you said, this is a baseball forum which is dedicated to emit opinions about the team and baseball in general, good ones or bad ones. You should use your common sense cliche to understand this.

[Thunder]

As for Fred, we can only hope he has a really senior moment and forgets where his pc is.

 

Best thing I've read in a while.

[TedWilliams101]

You are worse than Fred imo. You never post, then when you do, you bitch. Then when we do good, you magically show up and act like you've been cheering the team from the start.

 

I've always been a huge Red Sox fan and I used to post on here a lot way back in the day, but it's just not a place I login in to much anymore. Does that mean I'm not emotionally invested in the team? Of course not, it means I don't take the time to post here. I generally post early in the season because I'm actually excited for the new season and being away for a while I think "Oh, I wonder whats going on on talksox". I don't pay much attention to baseball during the off-season due to football, work, school, hiking, etc etc, so it really does feel like a new slate come spring. I don't make 100s of posts anymore in the gamethreads just saying "Whoo!!!" or "Hanley's hot right now!". I can root for the team in real life...

[TedWilliams101]

It's really not, but if you say so. I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm not expecting anyone to act like this team is fine. We all knew pitching would be a problem. Right now they suck ass and deserve criticism. However, in imo a few bad starts and it seems like many people think we're doomed. I read some posts and just laugh at how ridiculous people act when things don't go our way. That's not even the worse part. I think complaining seems to be the trend, even when we do good. Here at talksox: Win by 10 runs? Complain. Ortiz only hit 3 HRs and not 4 in 4 ABs? Complain. Get a blowjob from Beyonce? Complain. Which is cool, this is a forum to express your concerns. I can already see it, "Man, this Sox team is so good! I knew it all along!" when the Sox kick ass, because they will eventually. This team won't look like this all season, I can guarantee it. In the end, you guys are free to say and do whatever you want. I just wanted to call out TW101.

 

If we don't make any moves, this team IS doomed, and it's not an over-reaction, it's the sane reaction. Sure there's a chance, just like there's a chance to make a marginal hand a winner, but it's not likely, nor a good bet. My concern is that they wait too long to make moves and the hole we are digging becomes to deep to dig out (including blowing out the pen). But let's not try to paint this as just a "bad start". Worse ERA in baseball, 5 out of 20 games the starter couldn't make it to the 5th (25%), and another 3 or 4 games the starter couldn't get past the 5th. That's as ugly as it gets and it's not just the situation where "oh, Lester always starts slow". They are who we think they are.

[a700hitter]

If we don't make any moves, this team IS doomed, and it's not an over-reaction, it's the sane reaction. Sure there's a chance, just like there's a chance to make a marginal hand a winner, but it's not likely, nor a good bet. My concern is that they wait too long to make moves and the hole we are digging becomes to deep to dig out (including blowing out the pen). But let's not try to paint this as just a "bad start". Worse ERA in baseball, 5 out of 20 games the starter couldn't make it to the 5th (25%), and another 3 or 4 games the starter couldn't get past the 5th. That's as ugly as it gets and it's not just the situation where "oh, Lester always starts slow". They are who we think they are.

Don't let reality and the statiscal track records of the staff interfere with the hopes and dreams of those who put their trust in Ben Cherington.

[TedWilliams101]

Don't let reality and the statiscal track records of the staff interfere with the hopes and dreams of those who put their trust in Ben Cherington.

 

I do put trust in Ben, he had to deal with taking over an 'out of control' team from Theo and while there have been two disappointing season, he did get us another Banner. Theo, meanwhile, hasn't done anything to help the Cubs! Plus I actually like the Red Sox teams now, it was rough for a while with AGon, Beckett, etc.

[Bellhorn04]

I do put trust in Ben, he had to deal with taking over an 'out of control' team from Theo and while there have been two disappointing season, he did get us another Banner. Theo, meanwhile, hasn't done anything to help the Cubs!

 

Not so sure about that. The Cubs are 12-7 with Lester at 0-2. Nice start if you ask me.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Not so sure about that. The Cubs are 12-7 with Lester at 0-2. Nice start if you ask me.

I like how he bags on the Red Sox teams from late last decade for recklessly spending money on guys like Beckett and Gonzalez, and then chides Theo for not doing that exact same thing in Chicago.

 

I take solace in knowing that if people like him or Fred were running a baseball team, they'd be expensive 85 win failures every single season, with no hope for improvement because they would keep trading away their future franchise cornerstones for the equivalents of Kevin Brown and Carlos Pena.

Edited April 29, 2015 by Jacoby_Ellsbury

[TedWilliams101]

I like how he bags on the Red Sox teams from late last decade for recklessly spending money on guys like Beckett and Gonzalez, and then chides Theo for not doing that exact same thing in Chicago.

 

I take solace in knowing that if people like him or Fred were running a baseball team, they'd be expensive 85 win failures every single season, with no hope for improvement because they would keep trading away their future franchise cornerstones for the equivalents of Kevin Brown and Carlos Pena.

 

We got value out of the Beckett trade/contract. Lowell was awesome, Beckett helped us win a Championship. He started to suck and wore out his welcome, but I never criticized the deal. I also liked the Gonzalez move and he did put up some pretty good numbers overall in Boston, but his attitude was just awful. I thought Crawford's deal was a bit much, but no one expected him to totally suck (and we have been there so many times before, it happens). I did criticize the Sox when they overspent on Dice-K, just as I am very leery of them spending so much on Castillo.

 

I never said anything about how Theo should run the Cubs. I haven't even been following him/them at all other than recognizing that they haven't improved at all since he took over. I'm not even criticizing him, I understand it can take years to build a team, I'm just poking fun...

[Kimmi]

Are you...are you being serious? Fred, you've been a member of this site nearly as long as I have. Almost TEN YEARS. You don't know the gamethread tradition by now?

 

When you start a gamethread, you start the next one, and the next one, and so on, until the Sox lose. Then someone else starts.

 

I had that figured out about 3 days into the season, and this is my first season here.

 

Then again, I am pretty smart.

[Youk Of The Nation]

I had that figured out about 3 days into the season, and this is my first season here.

 

Then again, I am pretty smart.

 

Your intelligence is exceeded only by your modesty.

[Kimmi]

Your intelligence is exceeded only by your modesty.

 

LOL And my beauty.

[SoxnCycles]

Your intelligence is exceeded only by your modesty.

 

Please don't get her started.

[SoxnCycles]

LOL And my beauty.

 

Too late...

[SoxnCycles]

Fred has half the board wanting his head and he's got no problem with it.

One person calls him a goober and he loses his mind for a week.

 

You can't make this s*** up....

[seabeachfred]

He doesn't whine. He emit opinions. Sometimes good ones and sometimes bad ones REGARDING THE TEAM, but it is always about baseball. On the other hand you have had a lot of fights with a lot of posters, and that is a fact. As you said, this is a baseball forum which is dedicated to emit opinions about the team and baseball in general, good ones or bad ones. You should use your common sense cliche to understand this.

 

Israel, as I said to you the other day, some posters simply do not like hearing an uncomfortable truth. You called it before the season....WE NEED TWO STARTING PITCHERS OR WE COULD BE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE. You were right on but from what I've all you've gotten for those pearls is some s***** short caustic comments from someone who too much time on his hands (no name given), and from a few who simply don't like what you have to say. Listen up friends and associates.....this team right now is s*****, it stinks from the neck up, and our pitchers are not only getting it, they're GETTING THE LIVING s*** POUNDED OUT OF THEM. Uncomfortable and unpopular truth but a FACT. Since iortiz was adamant in insisting we needed to get those pitchers and most of the rest of the crew felt the same way, the difference, AND A BIG ONE, is that he never backed down nor did 700 and some of the others. Those others who said they would raise hell if we didn't get those pitchers were mute when we didn't and simply followed the party line once again....AND YOU ALL KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU ARE.

 

If we lose tonight we go to 500 and will have lost three series in a row after winning the first game of each. Tonight we have to hit and Pissant Porcello has to pitch a decent game for a change while Farrell gets his finger out of his ass and has someone warming up by the fifth, assuming Porcy can go that long, and not pull a FrancoMa and wait until the damage is done.

JUST WIN THE DAMN GAME TONIGHT.. We could even pick one up on the surprising Yankees who finally lost one to the Rays.

[seabeachfred]

I like how he bags on the Red Sox teams from late last decade for recklessly spending money on guys like Beckett and Gonzalez, and then chides Theo for not doing that exact same thing in Chicago.

 

I take solace in knowing that if people like him or Fred were running a baseball team, they'd be expensive 85 win failures every single season, with no hope for improvement because they would keep trading away their future franchise cornerstones for the equivalents of Kevin Brown and Carlos Pena.

 

Recklessly spending on Beckett? Later perhaps but the guy had a decent track record every other year he pitched for us, and in 2007 he was the best pitcher on the planet and helped win us a title. Without Beckett we don't win a title in 2007, capice? As for "running the team", if I had been Lester would have been paid and Lackey would have gotten an extra year extension and a raise from the minimum he would have gotten had he stayed with the Red Sox. AND WE SURE AS HELL WOULD HAVE BEEN A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN 11-10 AND SINKING IF WE HAD DONE THAT.

[Spudboy]

Not off to a great start Porcello.

 

GO SOX!!!