2015 Spring Training Games Thread

[iortiz]

Seems like the 0-162 drum is in every thread. We got it, u do not like opinions against the team.

[iortiz]

Buch is just another No. 4 or 5 these days. Having him or not, makes not substantial impact in our aspirations.

 

On the other hand, I think that he has the highests ceiling in this rotation, but again it is a looooong shot.

[User Name]

Seems like the 0-162 drum is in every thread. We got it, u do not like opinions against the team.

 

Actually, you don't get anything. That's kinda the problem, but nice try.

[Kimmi]

In anticipation of someone pointing out that Laptop had 6 Ks today I will say this.

 

That is about 10K/9 in rough math. OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!

 

But consider this. 12 hits in 5 innings is about 22 or so hits in 9 innings. and 4 runs in 5 innings is over a 7.0 ERA.

 

Oh yes. He is just fine.

 

 

Spud, I hate to say it, but you've done it.

 

You have gone all Fred on me.

 

The good news is, I still love you.

[Kimmi]

Seems like the 0-162 drum is in every thread. We got it, u do not like opinions against the team.

 

 

I thought it was funny.

 

Especially the 3rd time he posted it.

[Kimmi]

Buch is just another No. 4 or 5 these days. Having him or not, makes not substantial impact in our aspirations.

 

On the other hand, I think that he has the highests ceiling in this rotation, but again it is a looooong shot.

 

 

Buchholz' ability to pitch consistently is indeed a problem. However, when he is on, he is very, very good. He seems so mentally frail that I think he needs to have all of his decisions on the mound dictated to him. Do not like him think or second guess himself. That's what happened yesterday with his pitch to Ciriaco. Having Vazquez behind the plate should help him with that.

[mvp 78]

ST doesn't matter. Let's wait until mid May before we are tearing everyone on this team a new *******.

[Kimmi]

ST doesn't matter. Let's wait until mid May before we are tearing everyone on this team a new *******.

 

 

We will never make it all the way to May. My guess is that new holes are being torn within the first week of the season.

[mvp 78]

We will never make it all the way to May. My guess is that new holes are being torn within the first week of the season.

 

We better hope they win the first game with good pitching.

[User Name]

ST doesn't matter. Let's wait until mid May before we are tearing everyone on this team a new *******.

 

Why is this so f***ing hard to understand? Some of these pitchers aren't even working to get pitchers out, just stretching out pitch counts and working on specific pitch locations. It's really not rocket science.

 

This spring:

 

David Price: 4.26 ERA

Cole Hamels: 5.17 ERA

Jeff Samardzija: 7.79 ERA

 

Let's DFA them, they've sucked in Spring Training!

[mvp 78]

Hamels is clearly a bum. Good thing we didn't trade for him!

[seabeachfred]

Pitchers are working on a lot of things in ST and it IS very possible that accounts for some of the bloated ERA's we're seeing. However, when we talk about Hamels and Price and then add Buchholz to the list we're trawling on dangerous waters. The first two have been consistent contributers to their respective team. Clay has been a chronic disappointment almost since the time he threw that no-hitter in late 2007. One good year and one-half outstanding season is all we've gotten from him---and he still takes eons to throw the ball like he is afraid to let it go. Damn it, someone speed him up just a little. I can't get inside of his head but Farrell and Co. have to get this guy ready for the season because whether he wants it or not a lot of this year is riding on his finally making a full season contribution to the team. I'm still holding out real hope because when he is on and in a groove he can pitch some outstanding baseball.

[Spudboy]

Spud, I hate to say it, but you've done it.

 

You have gone all Fred on me.

 

The good news is, I still love you.

 

It's certainly nice to hear that you love me!!!

 

Nah. I have not gone all Fred. I have just tempered my enthusiasm with reality.

 

I want the Sox to do well, of course. I am a pragmatist. Until I see this team doing well with all the questionable pieces it has I won't allow myself to be overcome with positive emotions. This team has a bunch of questions heading into the season. I am aware of how the division appears underwhelming. I do not see the Sox as being that much better than any team in the league at this point. I have my opinions. I remain optimistic.

[iortiz]

I'm using ST stats for betting purposes, but aside me no one here is taking ST stats seriously. Some are just sharing their thoughts of what some players are showing thus far, what is the big deal? Edited March 28, 2015 by iortiz

[Spudboy]

I'm using ST stats for betting purposes, but aside me no one here is taking ST stats seriously. Some are just sharing their recopilations of what some players are showing thus far, what is the big deal?

 

wut

[iortiz]

What is wut?

[Kimmi]

It's certainly nice to hear that you love me!!!

 

Nah. I have not gone all Fred. I have just tempered my enthusiasm with reality.

 

I want the Sox to do well, of course. I am a pragmatist. Until I see this team doing well with all the questionable pieces it has I won't allow myself to be overcome with positive emotions. This team has a bunch of questions heading into the season. I am aware of how the division appears underwhelming. I do not see the Sox as being that much better than any team in the league at this point. I have my opinions. I remain optimistic.

 

 

The team has a bunch of questions, and now even more with the possible loss of Vazquez. But so do the other teams in the division. I don't see the Sox being that much better than any other team in the league, but nor do I see any other team in the league being that much better than the Sox. It's not going to be easy, but the Sox have as good a chance as any other team. For that reason, I remain enthusiastic and optimistic.

[seabeachfred]

The team has a bunch of questions, and now even more with the possible loss of Vazquez. But so do the other teams in the division. I don't see the Sox being that much better than any other team in the league, but nor do I see any other team in the league being that much better than the Sox. It's not going to be easy, but the Sox have as good a chance as any other team. For that reason, I remain enthusiastic and optimistic.

 

The pitching must step up the early part of the season and if need be over-achieve instead of under-achieving. That seems to be what most of the posters here are saying or hinting and I agree with that. However, lurking in the weeds is the fact that Pablo Sandoval's offensive stats have taken a tumble the last four years in a row, each one worse that the previous, and while most are shouting that Bogaerts is ready to bust loose I'm still not completely sold on him. The catching spot is full of question marks now and we don't know how much Ortiz has left in the tank.....and can Napoli come all the way back now that he is sleep healthy finally? Will Pedroia stay in one piece this time around and will Hanley give us all a treat instead of a treatment.

 

In other words there are question marks all around and not only on the pitching front. Two things to remember, though. Four other teams in the division have a plethora of problems as well and we won't really know anything about our team until the real fireworks start. At least I don't have to hear any more talk about Hamels as it seems that Cherington smartly will not include Swihart or Betts in any such trade. Besides, keeping our fingers crossed it is possible we can more than hold our own until the TD when more pitching will be available. We're not answering any real questions now....it is too early.

[Kimmi]

The pitching must step up the early part of the season and if need be over-achieve instead of under-achieving. That seems to be what most of the posters here are saying or hinting and I agree with that. However, lurking in the weeds is the fact that Pablo Sandoval's offensive stats have taken a tumble the last four years in a row, each one worse that the previous, and while most are shouting that Bogaerts is ready to bust loose I'm still not completely sold on him. The catching spot is full of question marks now and we don't know how much Ortiz has left in the tank.....and can Napoli come all the way back now that he is sleep healthy finally? Will Pedroia stay in one piece this time around and will Hanley give us all a treat instead of a treatment.

 

In other words there are question marks all around and not only on the pitching front. Two things to remember, though. Four other teams in the division have a plethora of problems as well and we won't really know anything about our team until the real fireworks start. At least I don't have to hear any more talk about Hamels as it seems that Cherington smartly will not include Swihart or Betts in any such trade. Besides, keeping our fingers crossed it is possible we can more than hold our own until the TD when more pitching will be available. We're not answering any real questions now....it is too early.

 

 

You're right that we're not answering any questions right now. We need to see how things play out for the first couple of months of the season. At that time, we'll have a much better idea of what our strengths and weaknesses are. We'll have a much better idea of who we can afford to trade, and who we need to trade for. As I've said before, we need to have some patience.

 

This team has some good depth though. If a player gets injured or underperforms, we have a very good option for back up at every position, except for catcher now.

[mvp 78]

E4! Trade Pedroia!

[a700hitter]

E4! Trade Pedroia!

Are you going to be at the "Trade Pedroia" all season long?

[Spudboy]

Masterson was the best he has been all spring tonight, I thought.

 

Mookie continues to change games.

[a700hitter]

Masterson was the best he has been all spring tonight, I thought.

 

Mookie continues to change games.

How was his velocity?

[Spudboy]

How was his velocity?

 

Crap. I did not notice. Although I did hear high 80s mentioned.

 

He was never in trouble and he got left handers out.

[a700hitter]

Crap. I did not notice. Although I did hear high 80s mentioned.

 

He was never in trouble and he got left handers out.

Whether he can be successful at the lower velocity is a big question mark. He couldn't hack it last year.

[Spudboy]

Whether he can be successful at the lower velocity is a big question mark. He couldn't hack it last year.

 

That and his mechanics were all over the place. Can't repeat your release point, you can't control the strike zone either. Those injuries were said to be responsible for all of that. Now he is supposed to be healthy.

 

I do not know what his average fastball was. I just heard high 80s said one time and I am not sure it was in reference to Masterson, really.

 

I have a feeling that there will be no middle ground with Masterson this year. Either he is back to 2013 form or he will get totally rocked each outing.

 

I'm pulling for the guy because I have always liked him.

[Ogden]

How was his velocity?

 

 

They didn't display it.

[mvp 78]

Are you going to be at the "Trade Pedroia" all season long?

 

Until he has a season ending injury.

[Bellhorn04]

What an incredible rally! 9 runs in the 9th! What a team!

[Palodios]

The Red Sox are among the top teams in the Grapefruit League. Onto the Mayor's Cup!