Moncada is coming

[iortiz]

You are, again, missing the point. They're just flat-out refusing to sign older pitchers. As their investment in Moncada (and the rest of the offseason) clearly shows, there is an M.O here, and that is to go younger. Your idea that it's because of the money flies in the face of logic.

 

mmm I'm not sure about that since they tried to resign Lester but they shitted the bed. Even if that is the strategy I do not share it at some extent when you look at guys like Shields. Weren't you all-in for Shields as well and all-in for Lester?.

[a700hitter]

I don't have a source, but a friend of mine said that heard that Moncado is MLB ready. Has anyone read or heard this?

[iortiz]

I don't have a source, but a friend of mine said that heard that Moncado is MLB ready. Has anyone read or heard this?

 

I heard that as well at ESPNdeportes. Guillermo Celis said that he is ready if the Red Sox need him.

[mvp 78]

Rice and red beans?

[Palodios]

We cannot afford to let someone put him astray and I'm afraid Hanley could be one to try that. Remember Ortiz will be gone within two seasons.

 

Hanley's attitude was a problem in Miami, but it didn't seem like it was in LA. He's older now, and hopefully more mature. So far, the general attitude coming from spring training has been awesome. These guys are thrilled to spend time together in this lineup. There will be a lot of one-up-manship -- working hard to be the best guy in the lineup. It doesn't look like that will change anytime soon.

[User Name]

mmm I'm not sure about that since they tried to resign Lester but they shitted the bed. Even if that is the strategy I do not share it at some extent when you look at guys like Shields. Weren't you all-in for Shields as well and all-in for Lester?.

 

I did not make any reference to my personal preference. I am making a point about their strategy. I have not presented any ideas of my own or validated said strategy. I pointed to the strategy in question. I am in wait and see mode because I see the logic behind it, but I understand it's risky.

[User Name]

Let's assume Moncada is the real deal.......and I think he is going to be more than just the real deal. He might turn out to be the best of the Cubanos baseball has signed recently. He won't be 20 until May 27, can play any infield position, most likely could become an outfielder, is a switch hitter and can run and has a very strong arm. So what is the problem? None right now but in two years there could be one......Hanley Ramirez, who I am expecting big things from this year. I am also predicting that HR will do what he did in the Boston farm system, in Miami and in LA and that's become virus in his third season....if not late in his second. A leopard doesn't change his spot and for that the Red Sox must keep Moncada away from Hanley with either Panda and or Castillo (assuming he has the good attitude we've heard about) as protection. We saw the chicken and beer in 2011 and we don't want to have a rice and red beans redux two or three years from now. Attitude is extremely important and Moncada must develop and maintain all the positive entities he's so far developed. We cannot afford to let someone put him astray and I'm afraid Hanley could be one to try that. Remember Ortiz will be gone within two seasons.

 

Hey Fred, I don't think this post is douchey enough. Could you add another unfunny joke about my culture (which you know jack-s*** about) so as to make it just racist enough to be even less funny? I'll wait here. Did you not mention chicken because we're so poor here we can't afford to eat it with our rice and beans?

 

Notice that there's been a ceasefire between the two of us, mostly because you've managed to stay away from offensive and tasteless comments like this one. Can we get back to that?

[cp176]

It is starting to seem unlikely that the Red Sox go after Price/Cueto/Zimmerman next year. I think it is highly probable that the Red Sox re-sign Porcello because of his age and history in New England.

 

If the Red Sox go for an ace, he's going to be Cuban, Japanese, or a cost controlled 25 year old that they trade a blue chip for.

 

I think that the Red Sox would have been very happy to get Lester back but at their price. I really do not think that it was an all out effort. Once again, they have clearly shown that they have the money. I also think that players like Cueto and Zimmerman might be what they are interested in when the free agent season rolls around. Whether their current starting staff gets it done or not, I would still expect them to make a big play for the youngest best front line arm they can get. I wish that Lester had come back but I am just not sure that thinking that the Red Sox blew it with him is the right call. Maybe last year - maybe not. There is a plan that is starting to take shape. They appear to be getting younger and better. The best available athletes right now are position players. They are loading up on them. When the best available young athlete is a young talented pitcher, don't be surprised if winds up in a Sox uniform.

[iortiz]

I did not make any reference to my personal preference. I am making a point about their strategy. I have not presented any ideas of my own or validated said strategy. I pointed to the strategy in question. I am in wait and see mode because I see the logic behind it, but I understand it's risky.

 

...and I'm making an opinion about their strategy as well, what is the big deal?

[User Name]

...and I'm making an opinion about their strategy as well, what is the big deal?

 

The fact that you're purposely (or inadvertently) making a false assessment of said strategy. I am correcting your factual inaccuracies. What is the big deal?

[iortiz]

The fact that you're purposely (or inadvertently) making a false assessment of said strategy. I am correcting your factual inaccuracies. What is the big deal?

 

what false assessment?

[sk7326]

Let's assume Moncada is the real deal.......and I think he is going to be more than just the real deal. He might turn out to be the best of the Cubanos baseball has signed recently. He won't be 20 until May 27, can play any infield position, most likely could become an outfielder, is a switch hitter and can run and has a very strong arm. So what is the problem? None right now but in two years there could be one......Hanley Ramirez, who I am expecting big things from this year. I am also predicting that HR will do what he did in the Boston farm system, in Miami and in LA and that's become virus in his third season....if not late in his second. A leopard doesn't change his spot and for that the Red Sox must keep Moncada away from Hanley with either Panda and or Castillo (assuming he has the good attitude we've heard about) as protection. We saw the chicken and beer in 2011 and we don't want to have a rice and red beans redux two or three years from now. Attitude is extremely important and Moncada must develop and maintain all the positive entities he's so far developed. We cannot afford to let someone put him astray and I'm afraid Hanley could be one to try that. Remember Ortiz will be gone within two seasons.

 

Where is this that Moncada can play any infield position? He can today, that's it.

 

Hanley was such a virus in the Red Sox system that the Red Sox dealt him for a 25 year old World Series MVP. The only bad thing one can say about Ramirez (and if you are holding him to what he was in his early 20s, I am sorry for you) is that he has shown to be brittle.

 

I saw the chicken and beer which derailed our playoffs for ONE WHOLE SEASON ...

[User Name]

Where is this that Moncada can play any infield position? He can today, that's it.

 

Hanley was such a virus in the Red Sox system that the Red Sox dealt him for a 25 year old World Series MVP. The only bad thing one can say about Ramirez (and if you are holding him to what he was in his early 20s, I am sorry for you) is that he has shown to be brittle.

 

I saw the chicken and beer which derailed our playoffs for ONE WHOLE SEASON ...

 

Goddamnit SK! You and your sound logic and common sense! Stop that! We don't like that here at TalkSox!

[seabeachfred]

Rice and red beans?

 

Cuban food, and Puerto Ricans love rice and beans too......and so do I. I eat it at least once a week.......but I do not use onions in mine and when I eat in Cuban restaurant I have to emphasize NO SAVOIA!!!!! See mvp I'm a man with some culinary tastes. Now if User will step in and tell me what they eat with their rice in the DR I might be up to date on all the culinary loves of the Caribbean, though I think rice and chicken is big there according to one of my DR friends.

[iortiz]

Cuban food, and Puerto Ricans love rice and beans too......and so do I. I eat it at least once a week.......but I do not use onions in mine and when I eat in Cuban restaurant I have to emphasize NO SAVOIA!!!!! See mvp I'm a man with some culinary tastes. Now if User will step in and tell me what they eat with their rice in the DR I might be up to date on all the culinary loves of the Caribbean, though I think rice and chicken is big there according to one of my DR friends.

 

In most part of LA we eat rice and beans. Not sure why he got offended.

[seabeachfred]

Hey Fred, I don't think this post is douchey enough. Could you add another unfunny joke about my culture (which you know jack-s*** about) so as to make it just racist enough to be even less funny? I'll wait here. Did you not mention chicken because we're so poor here we can't afford to eat it with our rice and beans?

 

Notice that there's been a ceasefire between the two of us, mostly because you've managed to stay away from offensive and tasteless comments like this one. Can we get back to that?

 

User, I posted another missive and mentioned that I wasn't up to date on the culinary tastes of the Dominican Republic except to say that a Dominican friend of mine said chicken and rice were popular there. So please read it. It was'nt meant to be funny nor was it meant to be insulting and it sure as hell wasn't any racist s*** that people seem to like to throw out there whenever someone says something that could be construed wrong. I eat in Cuban restaurants. You now know that. I have eaten in Puerto Rican restaurants and I know their specialties. I did not know for certain what they serve as specialties in the DR except for what a DR-Amercan told me one time, but since he has lived in California since he was five he might not be an expert in the tastes of his native country. Maybe you can tell me for sure what you love to eat down there. For me it would be enlightening since I fancy myself as a foodie, though an amateur one. And please, no offense meant.

[Kimmi]

If Pedroia has another 2 years like last year and Moncada projects as a 2nd baseman, I'd send the dirt dog on his way in 2017 and say thanks for the memories.

 

 

My head somewhat agrees with you, but the emotional side of me wouldn't be at all happy about sending Pedroia packing. Emotions aside, however, even with some declining offense, Pedroia has great value to this team.

[seabeachfred]

In most part of LA we eat rice and beans. Not sure why he got offended.

 

That's a given our here in Los Angeles my friend. Of course Mexican cuisine is very big here as it is in Mexico----though for me I stay away from the rice and frijoles and zero in on those chicken enchiladas and chicken tacos. And, of course, those delicious pork tamales. I do think the type of rice served in Cuban and Puerto Rican restaurants is a little different than the rice recipe Mexican-Americans use. I also don't know why he was offended but he may still think the worst of me......sad!!!!!

[User Name]

I don't think the worst of you fred. But unlike uncle Tom over there, i think it's a good idea to avoid utterly racist comments.

 

I don't think you'd be cool with me calling you burger-eating cracka.

 

If it's cool with you, then i retire my previous comment and let us let racism reign supreme on talksox!

[User Name]

User, I posted another missive and mentioned that I wasn't up to date on the culinary tastes of the Dominican Republic except to say that a Dominican friend of mine said chicken and rice were popular there. So please read it. It was'nt meant to be funny nor was it meant to be insulting and it sure as hell wasn't any racist s*** that people seem to like to throw out there whenever someone says something that could be construed wrong. I eat in Cuban restaurants. You now know that. I have eaten in Puerto Rican restaurants and I know their specialties. I did not know for certain what they serve as specialties in the DR except for what a DR-Amercan told me one time, but since he has lived in California since he was five he might not be an expert in the tastes of his native country. Maybe you can tell me for sure what you love to eat down there. For me it would be enlightening since I fancy myself as a foodie, though an amateur one. And please, no offense meant.

 

As i posted in my other reply, it's not what you said, it's the specific mischaracterization and inherent racism in the comment. I'm being honest when I say I'd like to keep our ceasefire intact, but you're killing me here fred, killing me.

[iortiz]

That's a given our here in Los Angeles my friend. Of course Mexican cuisine is very big here as it is in Mexico----though for me I stay away from the rice and frijoles and zero in on those chicken enchiladas and chicken tacos. And, of course, those delicious pork tamales. I do think the type of rice served in Cuban and Puerto Rican restaurants is a little different than the rice recipe Mexican-Americans use. I also don't know why he was offended but he may still think the worst of me......sad!!!!!

My girlfriend is from Colombia and she loves white rice served with platano macho frito. She literally can't eat without rice haha. I love botanas of frijoles refritos with cheese served with pico de gallo, guacamole and totopos.

[cp176]

My head somewhat agrees with you, but the emotional side of me wouldn't be at all happy about sending Pedroia packing. Emotions aside, however, even with some declining offense, Pedroia has great value to this team.

 

Personally and I hope that when the call goes out for our next second baseman it will be in fact a second baseman - Mookie Betts. Moncada is a ss but has been "projected" to be a third baseman, a second baseman, a first baseman, and an outfielder. No one knows what the future will bring but it should be fun to see.

[mvp 78]

Hope Mookie lays off the collard greens and watermelon this year!

[User Name]

Hope Mookie lays off the collard greens and watermelon this year!

 

Don't forget the purple drink!

[seabeachfred]

As i posted in my other reply, it's not what you said, it's the specific mischaracterization and inherent racism in the comment. I'm being honest when I say I'd like to keep our ceasefire intact, but you're killing me here fred, killing me.

 

OK User, peace once again reigns. I will let pass what passed as mischaracterization on my part. I still don't really know what could be construed to be racist. We aren't talking about black vs white or yellow vs red. We were talking about food and what they serve in different parts of the world. As for a burger cracker, what a laugh. I never touCh that s***. Haven't had a burger in over 20 years, don't eat red meat, don't eat eggs, butter, most pork, no lamb, and I never drink cola sodas. And f*** hot dogs too. I eat lots of sea food, vegetables, fruit, some chicken and my starches are pasta and rice. I think I would fare very well if I had to live in the DR for any length of time unless you or anyone else tried to serve me something with onions in it. Anyway, this whole thing came about because of my worry over what Ramirez might be to Moncada, and while Palodios thinks Hanley has matured, I heard the same talk when he went to the Dodgers and, believe me, they were glad to see him go. Hanley, I think will be very good for us this year and maybe next year. After that, well, you know what I think. GO RED SOX!!!!!

[User Name]

Haven't you noticed how every time you try to talk s*** about Hanley something bad happens? Learn your lesson. Hanley is your nemesis.

[seabeachfred]

Hope Mookie lays off the collard greens and watermelon this year!

 

Piling on again mvp? That statement IS f***ing racist and bears no resemblance to what I wrote about food based on what I knew. There was no f***ing reason for you to write that. If you are even hinting that I may be a racist you're asking for a lot of hurt. I don 't go defensive when something like that is thrown at me--I go on the offense and get as dirty and nasty as I can be. I hope it doesn't get to that because we've gotten along a lot better lately and at worst you should have given me the benefit of the doubt. Anyway, let's move on.

[User Name]

Yeah yeah, my comment was out of line too. I'm man enough to admit that.

[seabeachfred]

Haven't you noticed how every time you try to talk s*** about Hanley something bad happens? Learn your lesson. Hanley is your nemesis.

 

That's true---I had a boil removed from near my left eye Sunday night in emergency surgery and it hurt like a son of a bitch. Also got some stomach flu last Saturday so there certainly is truth to what you wrote----and this is no ******** story. I also have to see my hematologist tomorrow and an ophthalmologist Thursday for a possible operation on my tear ducts. So, yes, there may be something there. However, I also said that Hanley would be a standout this season and probably in 2016. This is getting to be a soap opera. Tell you what.....think some good thoughts for me that all this works out well. that might help. I'm not yet out of the woods. Anyway, I want to get along with you and mvp and I'll do my damn best to do so. As for Hanley, he has been my nemesis but maybe this prediction I made will help.......310-28--102 and a maybe an All Star berth. Now hopefully for some good luck.

Edited February 24, 2015 by seabeachfred

[Kimmi]

I still don't understand the fascination with Hamels.

 

 

Well, he is kind of cute.