2011 Trade Deadline Thread

[a700hitter]

The Mets got fleeced. They had to send cash AND they only got players to be named later in return. If we could get a similary friendly deal for Beltran' date=' I'd be all for it. But it would be silly not to think that Beltran's going to command more than 2 PTBNL.[/quote']I don't think so, but the Mets will not want to eat his salary.

[AtWork]

I don't think so' date=' but the Mets will not want to eat his salary.[/quote']

 

You think all it will take to acquire Beltran is 2 PTBNL and taking on his entire salary?

[a700hitter]

You think all it will take to acquire Beltran is 2 PTBNL and taking on his entire salary?

I think it will take very little in the way of prospect talent to land Beltran. If someone offers to eat the entire salary, that team will get him. The Wilpons have no thought of building for the future right now. They are in survival mode.

[AtWork]

I think it will take very little in the way of prospect talent to land Beltran. If someone offers to eat the entire salary' date=' that team will get him. The Wilpons have no thought of building for the future right now. They are in survival mode.[/quote']

 

If they're really in the dire financial straights that you seem to think they are, why'd they just send $5 million to the Brewers?

[Palodios]

If they're really in the dire financial straights that you seem to think they are' date=' why'd they just send $5 million to the Brewers?[/quote']

 

Probably has to do with the 17.5 million vesting option in 2012.

[AtWork]

Probably has to do with the 17.5 million vesting option in 2012.

 

Why'd the Mets pay the rest of K-Rod's contract to have him play for the Brewers and avoid an option that only vests if he finishes 21 more games when they could have instead paid the rest of his contract to have him pitch for the Mets in a way that wouldn't have allowed him to finish 21 more games? The only net gain they got by trading him were the players from the Brewers.

[jacksonianmarch]

If the Mets intentionally kept him from vesting that option without a superior alternative, he would have filed a grievance and likely would have won.

[a700hitter]

If they're really in the dire financial straights that you seem to think they are' date='[/b'] why'd they just send $5 million to the Brewers?

Their financial woes are not a secret. They will lose a controlling interest in the Mets for $1 if they cannot repay $200 million in two years.

[Thunder]

Why would Garza wanna stay with the loveable losers from Wrigley?

 

Because he's the Cubs only shot.

The Cubs are a weak team. I went to the game on May 21st at Fenway, the game that the Cubs won 9-3. Towards the end, there were little girls behind me screaming "Let's go Cubbies!" Yeah, I was terrified.

[iortiz]

Giants Among Beltran's Most Serious Suitors

By Tim Dierkes [July 13 at 8:45am CST]

The Giants are among Carlos Beltran's most serious suitors, report Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Closer Brian Wilson acknowledged his team's interest in the Mets right fielder last night, saying, "I guess we're in talks with them about Beltran." It's not clear whether Wilson has inside information or is just putting his spin on public rumors.

 

Beltran indicated a few days ago that he wouldn't be shocked if the Giants acquire him, and you have to assume he'd approve a trade there. The Mets' recent trade of closer Francisco Rodriguez was about avoiding the reliever's $17.5MM vesting option for 2012, something that had to be done even if the team remained on the fringes of contention. But trading Beltran for prospects or salary relief would be a clearer white flag on the 2011 season.

 

Beltran will have about $6MM remaining on his contract at the July 31st deadline. Many contenders can't take on that size of a burden, but the Mets could kick in cash to receive better players in return, especially now that they're relieved of K-Rod on their 2012 books. The Giants, Red Sox, Rays, Tigers, Guardians, White Sox, Pirates, and Reds are contenders that could use a corner outfield boost. The Phillies and Braves could as well, if the Mets are willing to deal with division rivals. Six or seven teams have real interest in Beltran, tweets ESPN's Buster Olney.

[AtWork]

Their financial woes are not a secret. They will lose a controlling interest in the Mets for $1 if they cannot repay $200 million in two years.

 

Every knows the Mets are in financial trouble. You're one of the few speculating that they will get little to nothing in return for Beltran because they're in such financial trouble that they only care about dumping as much money as possible.

[AtWork]

If the Mets intentionally kept him from vesting that option without a superior alternative' date=' he would have filed a grievance and likely would have won.[/quote']

 

The Brewers are going to do the same thing. No one's going to be picking up a $17.5 million option on K-Rod next year.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman

Exec on K-Rod trade: "Mets did not get good prospects because #Brewers don't have any good prospects left. This was a money deal. Mets wanted to get rid of $ and Brewers were able to take on some"

[Palodios]

Honestly, this seems like a real win-win. The Mets drop significant salary from 2012, and the Brewers get a solid reliever without giving up significant prospects-- how often does that one happen?

[boston22407]

According to Buster Olney of ESPN.com, the Yankees are not interested in trading for Carlos Beltran.

[Spitball]

Honestly' date=' this seems like a real win-win. The Mets drop significant salary from 2012, and the Brewers get a solid reliever without giving up significant prospects-- how often does that one happen?[/quote']

 

K-Rod and probably Scott Boras are the only losers.

[AtWork]

"Mets are looking for big-time prospect return for Beltran, feeling as if they have the best available hitter in (for them) a seller's market."

 

Buster Olney

 

Of course they are.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I'm confused now, I thought they wanted money?

[Dojji]

They're blustering, No harm in throwing some words around in case you can get someone to bite. There's still plenty of time to panic and sell low at 7/31 if you can't.

[AtWork]

The latest is that the Mets sent the Brewers nearly $6 million and will pay his $3.5 million buyout this offseason. If the Mets were only interested in dumping salary they wouldn't have just sent the Brewers nearly $10 million to have K-Rod pitch for them.

[AtWork]

I'm confused now' date=' I thought they wanted money?[/quote']

 

I've seen certain posters here say that but I haven't seen that written anywhere by sports writers with actual major league sources.

[Dojji]

The latest is that the Mets sent the Brewers nearly $6 million and will pay his $3.5 million buyout this offseason. If the Mets were only interested in dumping salary they wouldn't have just sent the Brewers nearly $10 million to have K-Rod pitch for them.

 

I disagree. They're still saving money on the deal even if they ship some cash along. If anything this demonstrates how desperate the Mets are to clear salary. After all cutting another team a check for player salary has a different timetable than paying the salary itself.

[FredLynn]

According to Buster Olney of ESPN.com' date=' the Yankees are not interested in trading for Carlos Beltran.[/quote']

 

1. Buster Olney is a buffoon and

2. Don't believe anything the Yankees say

[AtWork]

I disagree. They're still saving money on the deal even if they ship some cash along. If anything this demonstrates how desperate the Mets are to clear salary. After all cutting another team a check for player salary has a different timetable than paying the salary itself.

 

$9.5 million isn't "some cash". That's the entirety of his remaining salary and his buyout this offseason. The Brewers won't have to pay a single cent to have K-Rod pitch for them. And all the Mets had to do to avoid the $17.5 million option would be to leave K-Rod out of a handful of tie game situations or appearances to get work in.

[Dojji]

And I say again: The timetable for compensating teams in trades like this one is different from the timetable for paying actual player salaries. It comes out of a different checkbook too IIRC. Someone's playing a shell game to try to keep their team.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

1. Buster Olney is a buffoon and

2. Don't believe anything the Yankees say

 

Are we out of the Al East race yet? :lol:

[AtWork]

And I say again: The timetable for compensating teams in trades like this one is different from the timetable for paying actual player salaries. It comes out of a different checkbook too IIRC. Someone's playing a shell game to try to keep their team.

 

Do you have any inside information about the payout schedule for K-Rod and how it compares to the payout schedule for this trade?

[boston22407]

According to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals would "most covet" right-hander Jeremy Hellickson in a potential trade with the Rays.

The Rays are known to have long-standing interest in Cardinals center fielder Colby Rasmus, who has clashed with management and issued more than one trade request since arriving in St. Louis in 2009. Tampa Bay is still very much in contention this season and would certainly prefer to keep its starting rotation intact, but Rasmus' five-tool potential may lure them into trade

[SoxSport]

Olney and Heyman are both Yankee stooges out of NY.

 

There is competition for Beltran. The Mets can be choosy.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Olney and Heyman are both Yankee stooges out of NY.

 

There is competition for Beltran. The Mets can be choosy.

 

Huh?!? Heyman, maybe. But he's pretty unbiased compared to others. Olney is more of a Sox homer than a Yankees homer.