2011 Trade Deadline Thread

[Palodios]

I think he is in the last year of a two year deal.

 

 

From Dylan Hernandez:

 

Ethier is team-controlled through 2012, one year in a contract, one in arbitration. I just meant, would it be possible to sign him from his last arbitration year, through to 2014/2015 at that cost?

 

Edit: Based on his numbers, I don't think he'll be worth his contract. He has never been anything special defensively, and RF in Fenway will expose him. This team might be interested in him short term, but Kalish is the answer long term for this team.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I think he is in the last year of a two year deal.

 

 

From Dylan Hernandez:

 

Yup he is in the last year. But he's arbitration eligible in 2012, so he would still be under club control. It'd be a lot easier to give up a couple good players for Ethier since you'll have him for 2+ years. Go ahead and trade for him, and then lock him up.

 

By the way - This isn't the first I've heard of Ethier's desire to play for the Red Sox. This seems to be an ongoing thing. What luck. Who knew that when we drafted Pedroia, we also got Ethier! :thumbsup:

[Spitball]

Ethier is team-controlled through 2012' date=' one year in a contract, one in arbitration. [/quote']

 

Right. I was just going back to edit my response.

 

I just meant' date=' would it be possible to sign him from his last arbitration year, through to 2014/2015 at that cost?[/quote']

 

:dunno:

[SoxFanForsyth]

Ethier is team-controlled through 2012, one year in a contract, one in arbitration. I just meant, would it be possible to sign him from his last arbitration year, through to 2014/2015 at that cost?

 

Edit: Based on his numbers, I don't think he'll be worth his contract. He has never been anything special defensively, and RF in Fenway will expose him. This team might be interested in him short term, but Kalish is the answer long term for this team.

 

His fielding is improving a lot. He's a 6.2 UZR/150 player right now. Ethier has proven he can do it in the MLB. He's under club control through 2012. You can extend him to around 5/60 or something like that, and make him a cost efficient player. You take out Drew, Cam, and Scut from next years payroll (27mm) and you can afford the increase in Gonzo's contract (15mm) as well as a $12mm, 5 year deal with Ethier.

 

Not to mention Ortiz is going to take a paycut, Navarro could be the 2012 utility man/SS if Lowrie can't stay healthy and Iglesias isn't ready. I like the move.

[boston22407]

I wrote something a while ago about him and everybody was saying no chance to me lol

[example1]

Wouldn't it be great if a player wanting to play for a particular team meant a trade there was more likely to happen? I'm pretty sure that Ethier to Boston has been rumored before because he and Pedroia are close friends.

 

That said, what type of package would it even take to make it happen?

 

His defense would be vulnerable in RF, but he would be dangerous in the mid-lower part of the order with other offensively limited players like David Ortiz and Carl Crawford ( ).

[SoxSport]

The Sox don't really struggle against lefty pitchers. They OPS .790 versus lefties and .809 versus right handers. Since they face far more right handers' date=' that isn't that significant.[/quote']

 

misleading. check out the power numbers. the lefties don't hit LHP with the same power as they hit RHP. that's why they see LHP all the time--more than normal.

[Dawgma]

I think Papi should be secured with a contract by the middle of Sept... He has red sox blood in his veins.

Reddick has all that it takes to play at the major league level. He's got a good mind... I like him over Kalish.

Crawford is a disappointment to say the least........

I'll be surprised if this team doesn't win 100+ games. They're coming together as a team and that's key.

Any one want to discuss?

[SoxSport]

Wouldn't it be great if a player wanting to play for a particular team meant a trade there was more likely to happen? I'm pretty sure that Ethier to Boston has been rumored before because he and Pedroia are close friends.

 

That said, what type of package would it even take to make it happen?

 

His defense would be vulnerable in RF, but he would be dangerous in the mid-lower part of the order with other offensively limited players like David Ortiz and Carl Crawford ( ).

 

The need is for a RHd hitting outfielder. Ethier doesn't fit the need. Beltran is one guy who fits the need. Cuddyer might be another.

[Dawgma]

Crawford may leave anytime he wants... What a disappointment, he may leave even if he wants to stay.

Bye Carl..............

[Dawgma]

Conclusive data involving Tito's value as a manager: Darnell McDonald is hitting 5th in this monster lineup with his .108 average. Reddick's .409 average is on the bench.

 

He must think something more of the kid than we know. Depends on the team we're playing as well.

Don't get me wrong I'm a Reddick fan. I'd go with him over Kalish any day. The kid has what it takes mentally. He's tough.. I don't think I can say the same for Kalish.

[Spitball]

misleading. check out the power numbers. the lefties don't hit LHP with the same power as they hit RHP.

 

I don't think I posted anything misleading, and I did check the numbers. Versus left handers, the slugging percentage is .436. Against right handers, it is .458.

 

Much of the difference is because Gonzalez has a huge split because of his monsterous .706 slugging against right handers. David Ortiz is actually slugging better this year against lefties (.591 compared to .576).

 

that's why they see LHP all the time--more than normal.

 

But they still see more than twice as many right handers as left handers.

[example1]

The need is for a RHd hitting outfielder. Ethier doesn't fit the need. Beltran is one guy who fits the need. Cuddyer might be another.

 

I think that's a slightly overblown need. They would be in better shape if their actual LF was hitting at all, or if their RHH were hitting at usual levels (Pedroia and Youkilis, which they are showing signs of now) and if they were healthy across the board. Beltran isn't a savior, he's a good player but he would cost a shitload.

 

Ethier would be a nice addition anyway, but he wouldn't be a solution. If there were a RH RF it would be ideal, but there isn't so a simple upgrade at the position might be the best we can hope for.

[redsoxbeatz]

Just wish the trade deadline would arrive so I can find out what will happen!! Ahhhh! the suspense!!

[boston22407]

Carlos Beltran said accepting a trade to the Red Sox would be a "no-brainer."

Beltran will be a free agent after this season upon completion of his seven-year, $119 million deal with the Mets. Beltran has a full no-trade clause and was asked if he would waive it to join Boston. "They're in first place," he said. "That's a no-brainer." Red Sox sources, however, said they won't have much money to spend this summer in order to upgrade the roster. Beltran is owed more than $6 million during the second half of the season. The outfielder is hitting .285/.377/.503 with 13 homers and 58 RBI in 377 plate appearances. He leads the league with 28 doubles.

[boston22407]

A source told Brian Costa of the Wall Street Journal that the Yankees are not on Francisco Rodriguez's no-trade list.

The source told Costa that when K-Rod chose the teams, he did so based on which teams he wouldn’t want to play for, even if those teams would be unlikely to trade for him. In many cases, players have large-market teams on their no-trade list in order to secure some degree of leverage. Therefore, that the Yankees aren't on his list is notable. While the Bombers reportedly don't have interest right now, they could if Rafael Soriano doesn't progress from an elbow injury.

[a700hitter]

Carlos Beltran said accepting a trade to the Red Sox would be a "no-brainer."

Beltran will be a free agent after this season upon completion of his seven-year, $119 million deal with the Mets. Beltran has a full no-trade clause and was asked if he would waive it to join Boston. "They're in first place," he said. "That's a no-brainer." Red Sox sources, however, said they won't have much money to spend this summer in order to upgrade the roster. Beltran is owed more than $6 million during the second half of the season. The outfielder is hitting .285/.377/.503 with 13 homers and 58 RBI in 377 plate appearances. He leads the league with 28 doubles.

Getting him should be a no-brainer for the Red Sox.

[jacksonianmarch]

If Crawford comes back healthy and if Reddick continues to hit, the sox wont need Beltran.

[AtWork]

Why fill right field internally with one of the hottest hitters in baseball when we can pay $6 million and a couple prospects more to get a brand name who will walk at the end of the year?

[d-money]

I dont think a RF is an option at this point.I like what i have seen from Reddick.His plate discipline has gotten better.

[a700hitter]

If Crawford comes back healthy and if Reddick continues to hit' date=' the sox wont need Beltran.[/quote']Cut the s*** Jacko. You know that is BS. Stop egging on the idiots who think Reddick can do for the Sox what Beltran would and the idiots who think it would deplete our farm system to acquire him. Neither of those trhings are true and you know it. He will cost money and little else. You just don't want us to get him. Theo, get your checkbook out and get Beltran! It is a no-brainer on every front.

[iortiz]

Cut the s*** Jacko. You know that is BS. Stop egging on the idiots who think Reddick can do for the Sox what Beltran would and the idiots who think it would deplete our farm system to acquire him. Neither of those trhings are true and you know it. He will cost money and little else. You just don't want us to get him. Theo' date=' get your checkbook out and get Beltran! It is a no-brainer on every front.[/quote']

 

oks get Beltran then... hehehe :thumbsup::harhar:

 

Beltran would be very nice, who wouldn't like him?, but if they can't afford him, i feel comfortable with Reddick... but for God's sake, don't shuffle the damn spot with D-McD.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Dumb question but what's a bigger need pitcher or RFer?

[jacksonianmarch]

Cut the s*** Jacko. You know that is BS. Stop egging on the idiots who think Reddick can do for the Sox what Beltran would and the idiots who think it would deplete our farm system to acquire him. Neither of those trhings are true and you know it. He will cost money and little else. You just don't want us to get him. Theo' date=' get your checkbook out and get Beltran! It is a no-brainer on every front.[/quote']

 

It depends on the amount. Right now, the sox are right up against the lux tax limit, and if Theo surpasses it this yr, he crosses into the 20+% range, which would be a problem. If they add Beltran, they'll get the Mets to eat a considerable chunk of the money.

 

Also, Reddick has an OPS of 1.100 in 60+ABs thus far. The kid has essentially another 3 weeks to prove he stays, and if he doesnt, then the Sox should get Beltran. The problem with Beltran is two-fold. Assuming the sox dont open the checkbook, he will cost prospects. AND with the fact that Beltran wont be a Type A or B FA, he'll walk for free in the offseason

[a700hitter]

Dumb question but what's a bigger need pitcher or RFer?

Close call, but is there an All Star pitcher who would be available for little more than money. Plus, we'd have have more competition for pitching than for Beltran.

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, Beltran will be in pretty high demand come the deadline. He's the best hitter on the block with possible 2 teams needing bats either in the OF or at DH. I am going out on a limb here, but if Posada continues to have a poor July, I think the Yankees just eat the salary and take him on

[a700hitter]

It depends on the amount. Right now, the sox are right up against the lux tax limit, and if Theo surpasses it this yr, he crosses into the 20+% range, which would be a problem. If they add Beltran, they'll get the Mets to eat a considerable chunk of the money.

 

Also, Reddick has an OPS of 1.100 in 60+ABs thus far. The kid has essentially another 3 weeks to prove he stays, and if he doesnt, then the Sox should get Beltran. The problem with Beltran is two-fold. Assuming the sox dont open the checkbook, he will cost prospects. AND with the fact that Beltran wont be a Type A or B FA, he'll walk for free in the offseason

If he doesn't pay Beltran's salary, someone else will. Prospects will not get the job done.

[a700hitter]

BTW' date=' Beltran will be in pretty high demand come the deadline. He's the best hitter on the block with possible 2 teams needing bats either in the OF or at DH. I am going out on a limb here, but if Posada continues to have a poor July, I think the Yankees just eat the salary and take him on[/quote']I don't doubt that the Yankees would eat his salary just to keep him from the Sox. He wouldn't waive the no trade clause to go to the Yankees unless they would assure him that he would be playing RF every day. The Yanks would have to DH Swisher or Gardner. I'm not so sure that they would do that.

[boston22407]

PHOENIX – Talking during the media availability for the National League All-Star team, San Diego closer Heath Bell admitted that while his priority is focusing on the current season, he is keeping an eye on the closing situation with the Red Sox. Boston’s current closer, Jonathan Papelbon, is slated to become a free agent following this season.

 

“I look at free agency as, ‘I’m unemployed,’ and I really don’t want to be unemployed,” said Bell, who is the final year of his current deal with the Padres. “I knew Papelbon was a free agent, but that was about it, just because my friend Adrian [Gonzalez] was over there, so I wanted to see if I could go over there. That’s about it. I haven’t really thought much about it. I’m just worried about the games of right now. I’m not really worried about the offseason.”

 

According to a major league source, the Red Sox have not engaged Papelbon in talks regarding a contract extension at any point this season.

 

Bell has been rumored to be on the trading block as the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline approaches. He currently has 26 saves to go along with a 2.43 ERA in 37 appearances.

 

“I’d say my dad and my mom have worried about that, my wife. They’re worried about where I’m going to go,” Bell said. “I can’t handle that. If it happens, it happens. Do I want it to happen? No. Is it a reality? Yes. I’m fine with it. I just take it as I’m going to work my butt off and give everything I have to the San Diego Padres.

 

“When they tell me that I’m with Philly or St. Louis or Texas or the Yankees or the Angels or whoever it is, then I’m going to give my heart and soul to that team. Until then, I’ve got 24 teammates right next to me.”

 

One team of interest to the Red So that has been linked to Bell has been the Yankees, who would use Bell in a set-up role for Mariano Rivera.

 

“I don’t want to set up, but if I got traded to a team that was heading to the playoffs and they needed me to set up, I would definitely set up,” Bell explained. “I know I’m going to become a free agent, and I want to close after that. I definitely want to close. But if they ask me to set up the last two months of the season, then I would. I know how to do it. I know how to bust my butt, go out there, pitch the eighth inning or get the seventh and eighth. I’ll do anything to win.”

[a700hitter]

I'm not a huge Heath Bell fan. He didn't have a good year until age 31. He is no replacement for Papelbon.