Anti-Fantasy League Draft and Discussion Thread

[ORS]

All that a side for now' date=' considering what's left for 3B, how would you guys rate the pick?[/quote']

There are others I would have gone after at that position. He's probably going to be solid (offensively, not sure about the D), but there are a few potential stars out there still available (similar to what you did with your pitching).

[Dipre]

There are others I would have gone after at that position. He's probably going to be solid (offensively' date=' not sure about the D), but there are a few potential stars out there still available (similar to what you did with your pitching).[/quote']

 

His D is awful.

 

He has stiff hands, even though exceptional reaction time kinda makes up for it, his arm is really erratic, he has improved a lot over time though.

[ORS]

That's what I meant when I said "not sure", as in he won't be dependable. I haven't seen him play consistently, but the stats don't paint a pretty picture.

[Dipre]

That's what I meant when I said "not sure"' date=' as in he won't be dependable. I haven't seen him play consistently, but the stats don't paint a pretty picture.[/quote']

 

I've seen the guy play in the winter, and you're being very kind by using the phrase "not dependable".

[Dojji]

Probably a bit early for Delcarmen, but the guy's a proven and durable righthanded power arm and I liked him better than most of the closers left out on the market.

[TheKilo]

Methinks some Red Sox bias is showing with the number of RS relievers flying here.

[BoSox21]

thats cause no one knows anyone else's bullpen, now's when actual research has to be done

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah I would have passed on MDC/RR until more closers went off the board.

[Keeper]

thats cause no one knows anyone else's bullpen' date=' now's when actual research has to be done[/quote']

 

Haha, so true.

[BSN07]

thats cause no one knows anyone else's bullpen' date=' now's when actual research has to be done[/quote']

 

Hit the nail on the head there:D

[Dojji]

Yeah I would have passed on MDC/RR until more closers went off the board.

 

I did look around the league at some of the closers. Frankly I wasn't impressed by the guys that are left out there -- at all. The only closers I'd take straight up over Delcarmen are already claimed. Pretty much it was between Delcarmen and J. J. Putz, who is playing a similar role and putting up worse numbers in a lesser league. So at that point you stick with the devil you know.

 

Delcarmen would be a closer right now on at least 18 major league teams.

[ORS]

At least 18? You sure it isn't 17, or 19?

 

At this point, I say, name 'em.

[BoSox21]

out of the 10 relievers taken so far, 3 are Red Sox. no one can tell me we 3 of the top 10 relievers in baseball, as good as the Sox pen is

[YanksHater213]

18 is a stretch but I think Delcarmen could close for a lot of teams at the moment. Probably around half, give or take a few to the less than half side, more likely closer to 10?

[YanksHater213]

out of the 10 relievers taken so far' date=' 3 are Red Sox. no one can tell me we 3 of the top 10 relievers in baseball, as good as the Sox pen is[/quote']

 

Well I took Marmol as a closer, RR as a set up.

 

RR has proven so far this year to be an elite set-up man entering the prime of his career.

[Cocos Disciples]

Honest question that I think I know the answer to: In this league is it important what a reliever's specific role is? For example, if MDC was closing on one of the 18 teams, would he be more valuable than he is now?

[BoSox21]

Well I took Marmol as a closer, RR as a set up.

 

RR has proven so far this year to be an elite set-up man entering the prime of his career.

 

yea, I've got no problem with your picks, I think they're good actually but MDC is when I step back a bit and say wtf

 

Honest question that I think I know the answer to: In this league is it important what a reliever's specific role is? For example' date=' if MDC [i']was[/i] closing on one of the 18 teams, would he be more valuable than he is now?

 

probably, cause debating how MDC would be as a closer right now is debating a hypothetical. if he's shown the ability to get saves, it's a different story. that's just the debate point people will get if they draft a non-closer to be their closer

[Dojji]

out of the 10 relievers taken so far' date=' 3 are Red Sox. no one can tell me we 3 of the top 10 relievers in baseball, as good as the Sox pen is[/quote']

 

Yeah but those 3 are our best and between them are the reason our bullpen stands out as such a dominant weapon. Those 3 between them might be the top ten in baseball this year, and all of them have solid overall track records, and there's going to be a Sox bias on a Sox forum, so whatcha gonna do?

[BoSox21]

so whatcha gonna do?

 

im gonna make Hulkamania run wild on you

[Dojji]

yea, I've got no problem with your picks, I think they're good actually but MDC is when I step back a bit and say wtf

 

Wouldn't see why. MDC's numbers over the last three years have been dominant, arguably better than Ramon Ramirez and actually better than the majority of closers, and he's got an 8.2 career K/9. I don't know what he has to do to earn a bit of respect as a very good relief pitcher.

 

He's just one of those guys who can't buy himself any love no matter what the numbers look like I guess.

 

Delcarmen has ERA+ of 232 and 141 over the prior 2 years and is at 568 ERA+ this year. We're talking about a very good pitcher here.

 

Also just because I drafted him first of the relievers I'm drafting doesn't necessarily mean he's my closer. Although he probably will be when the chips are down.

[BSN07]

MDC can be undervalued at times. Like I've said before I think it's because he does his work in the 6th/7th inning. If he put those numbers up in the 8th/9th inning, there would be a waiting line to jump on his jock strap...

[Dojji]

Kind of makes him a good potential for the 'relief ace' role with a solid but lesser closer.

[TheKilo]

GOD DAMN YOU ORS

[WhiskeyBreath]

im gonna make Hulkamania run wild on you

 

lmao

 

I'm a huge MDC fan. Local kid who throws heat. He's been very good in his career so far aside from the playoffs. Like Dojji said earlier, he could close for a good amount of teams right now.

[Dojji]

Now you see why I reached for Alex Gordon.

 

MSU might want to think about drafting a 1B and shifting Youks over.

[ORS]

Honest question that I think I know the answer to: In this league is it important what a reliever's specific role is? For example' date=' if MDC [i']was[/i] closing on one of the 18 teams, would he be more valuable than he is now?

I see no reason why he would be, not in this exercise. We are drafting players for their ability. I'm going to draft relievers for their ability to get outs, not record arbitrary meaningless stats (saves), and I'm of the opinion that someone who can record outs in the 6th-8th innings can do it in the 9th too.

[Cocos Disciples]

That's what I thought.

[BoSox21]

lol, thats 4 out of 11 relievers that are Sox

[Dojji]

I considered Bard too but in the end he's too much of an unknown quantity still. He's probably awesome but there's that element of risk. With Delcarmen even if everything implodes you have a track record to fall back on to justify he pick.

[castigs850]

it was about time i got a catcher.

 

also, shouldnt that lineup thing be stickied or something? its kinda slippin