mvp 78’s 2027 Payroll Blueprint: No copying my work, Brez!

[mvp 78]

Traded Duran for prospects. Traded Bello to finally get off that rollercoaster. Assumed no dead money on any trades. All FA amounts taken from FanGraphs Free Agent Tracker. 

• C: Adley Rutschman ($8.50M)
• 1B: Willson Contreras ($13.00M)
• 2B: Caleb Durbin ($1.00M)
• 3B: Teruaki Sato ($20.00M)
• SS: Trevor Story ($25.00M)
• LF: Roman Anthony ($4.00M)
• CF: Ceddanne Rafaela ($3.50M)
• RF: Wilyer Abreu ($5.80M)
• DH: Curtis Mead ($1.00M)
• 4th OF: Mauricio Dubon ($9.00M)
• Utility: Masataka Yoshida ($18.00M)
• Utility: Nick Sogard ($1.00M)
• Backup C: Austin Hedges ($5.00M)
• POS: Add Dead Money Here ($0M)
• SP1: Garrett Crochet ($28.00M)
• SP2: Ranger Suarez ($15.00M)
• SP3: Tarik Skubal ($42.0M)
• SP4: Payton Tolle ($1.00M)
• SP5: Jake Bennett ($1.00M)
• RP: Aroldis Chapman ($13.00M)
• RP: Adrian Morejon ($16.00M)
• RP: Justin Slaten ($1.00M)
• RP: Johan Oviedo ($1.55M)
• RP: Erik Miller ($1.35M)
• RP: Tanner Houck ($4.00M)
• RP: Tyron Guerrero ($1.00M)
• RP: Garrett Whitlock ($8.25M)
• POS: Add Dead Money Here ($0.00M)

Payroll is 4.63% under budget

[moonslav59]

I might put Sato at 2B.

Why wouldn't you want Brez to steal your plan?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I dunno how the boys in the locker room will feel about paying Dubon more money than half the starting line-up... but the Sox did with IKF last year, too.

They all must be used to this, since Yoshida is a bench-warmer who makes more than any position player except Story, who's been paid the most to nurse injuries 4 of the last 5 years.

[mvp 78]

8 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

I dunno how the boys in the locker room will feel about paying Dubon more money than half the starting line-up... but the Sox did with IKF last year, too.

They all must be used to this, since Yoshida is a bench-warmer who makes more than any position player except Story, who's been paid the most to nurse injuries 4 of the last 5 years.

Dubon has 2 GG's, doesn't k and doesn't whiff. It's good motivation for a guy like Durbin and seeing that he can get that payday down the line. 

[mvp 78]

49 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I might put Sato at 2B.

Why wouldn't you want Brez to steal your plan?

Sato definitely cannot play 2B. I only put him at 3B temporarily until an OF spot opens up down the line. 

[NHNative]

9 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Dubon has 2 GG's, doesn't k and doesn't whiff. It's good motivation for a guy like Durbin and seeing that he can get that payday down the line. 

Hey--someone agrees with me! Cool Boston Baked Beans.

;-)

[moonslav59]

21 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Sato definitely cannot play 2B. I only put him at 3B temporarily until an OF spot opens up down the line. 

In some ways 2B is harder then 3B, so you could be right.

As long as Mead is at DH, Anthony is in LF, so Sato stays at 3B for a while.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Dubon has 2 GG's, doesn't k and doesn't whiff. It's good motivation for a guy like Durbin and seeing that he can get that payday down the line. 

He's also arguably become the best player Dombrowski traded away from the Red Sox org, back when DD scorched the Earth.

At least Dubon is still a factor in the majors.

[Randy Red Sox]

6 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Traded Duran for prospects. Traded Bello to finally get off that rollercoaster. Assumed no dead money on any trades. All FA amounts taken from FanGraphs Free Agent Tracker. 

• C: Adley Rutschman ($8.50M)
• 1B: Willson Contreras ($13.00M)
• 2B: Caleb Durbin ($1.00M)
• 3B: Teruaki Sato ($20.00M)
• SS: Trevor Story ($25.00M)
• LF: Roman Anthony ($4.00M)
• CF: Ceddanne Rafaela ($3.50M)
• RF: Wilyer Abreu ($5.80M)
• DH: Curtis Mead ($1.00M)
• 4th OF: Mauricio Dubon ($9.00M)
• Utility: Masataka Yoshida ($18.00M)
• Utility: Nick Sogard ($1.00M)
• Backup C: Austin Hedges ($5.00M)
• POS: Add Dead Money Here ($0M)
• SP1: Garrett Crochet ($28.00M)
• SP2: Ranger Suarez ($15.00M)
• SP3: Tarik Skubal ($42.0M)
• SP4: Payton Tolle ($1.00M)
• SP5: Jake Bennett ($1.00M)
• RP: Aroldis Chapman ($13.00M)
• RP: Adrian Morejon ($16.00M)
• RP: Justin Slaten ($1.00M)
• RP: Johan Oviedo ($1.55M)
• RP: Erik Miller ($1.35M)
• RP: Tanner Houck ($4.00M)
• RP: Tyron Guerrero ($1.00M)
• RP: Garrett Whitlock ($8.25M)
• POS: Add Dead Money Here ($0.00M)

Payroll is 4.63% under budget

Skubal????_Ha Ha Ha Ha HAH !!!

[Randy Red Sox]

3 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

I dunno how the boys in the locker room will feel about paying Dubon more money than half the starting line-up... but the Sox did with IKF last year, too.

They all must be used to this, since Yoshida is a bench-warmer who makes more than any position player except Story, who's been paid the most to nurse injuries 4 of the last 5 years.

IKF- another great use of $$$

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, Randy Red Sox said:

IKF- another great use of $$$

He got hurt.  It happens.

[JimEd]

1 hour ago, Randy Red Sox said:

Skubal????_Ha Ha Ha Ha HAH !!!

it would be a great team, but the Sox are about as likely to sign Skubal as they are to sign me.

[notin]

32 minutes ago, JimEd said:

it would be a great team, but the Sox are about as likely to sign Skubal as they are to sign me.

I think Rhode Island native/BC alum King is actually realistic…

[JimEd]

29 minutes ago, notin said:

I think Rhode Island native/BC alum King is actually realistic…

yeah, that would be a typical Henry move. go for the low and mid-level players rather than the top tier. cause that would cost him money. and he doesn't have enough.

[mvp 78]

14 hours ago, Randy Red Sox said:

Skubal????_Ha Ha Ha Ha HAH !!!

If there's a budget, I'm going to use it! 

[mvp 78]

12 hours ago, JimEd said:

it would be a great team, but the Sox are about as likely to sign Skubal as they are to sign me.

Per the instructions:

"It’s meant to give fans the opportunity to discuss (and, let’s be honest, argue) how they would approach the long, dark MLB offseason. This tool is intended to be informal and fun, so we’ve left it as open as possible."

If I'm the GM, I'm going after the best players on the market so that I can win a ring. Why else would I work for the franchise with the third most revenue? 

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, notin said:

I think Rhode Island native/BC alum King is actually realistic…

Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! Nae master! We willna' be fooled again!

[mvp 78]

11 hours ago, JimEd said:

yeah, that would be a typical Henry move. go for the low and mid-level players rather than the top tier. cause that would cost him money. and he doesn't have enough.

Bad extension. FIP exceeds his ERA probably due to Petco (2.74 HOME/3.64 AWAY). Doesn't have a lengthy track record of starting. Is probably going to get overpaid. 😑

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

12 hours ago, notin said:

I think Rhode Island native/BC alum King is actually realistic…

Wait -- he's from New England and went to college in Boston? 

Cross him off the list; those types never make it in the majors.

Plus, signing a guy like that goes against company policy, because the front office is already too smart, and the last thing they need are outside eyes bugging them about can't-miss prospects.

There are just too many schools in the Boston area to scout, anyway, and nobody has time anymore to learn about potential draft picks' personalities... just have Asst. VPs scroll their phones for insta vids to analyze.

[JimEd]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Per the instructions:

"It’s meant to give fans the opportunity to discuss (and, let’s be honest, argue) how they would approach the long, dark MLB offseason. This tool is intended to be informal and fun, so we’ve left it as open as possible."

If I'm the GM, I'm going after the best players on the market so that I can win a ring. Why else would I work for the franchise with the third most revenue? 

oh, i know. i think you did great. i'd hire you over Brslow any day if i was Henry. now....git-r-done!

[notin]

13 hours ago, JimEd said:

yeah, that would be a typical Henry move. go for the low and mid-level players rather than the top tier. cause that would cost him money. and he doesn't have enough.

King isn’t “low to mid” level.  He’s a good pitcher.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, notin said:

King isn’t “low to mid” level.  He’s a good pitcher.

[notin]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

Bad extension. FIP exceeds his ERA probably due to Petco (2.74 HOME/3.64 AWAY). Doesn't have a lengthy track record of starting. Is probably going to get overpaid. 😑

He’s been starting for 3 1/2 years and has a better track record than Clay Holmes in that regard.   
 

Can we see what he gets paid before we label him overpaid?  Seems like an odd criticism from someone calling for Skubal… 

[moonslav59]

16 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

He's also arguably become the best player Dombrowski traded away from the Red Sox org, back when DD scorched the Earth.

At least Dubon is still a factor in the majors.

Good point: that vaunted "Cherry Farm" sure turned sour.

The "Devastated DD Farm" produced better players.

[mvp 78]

9 minutes ago, notin said:

He’s been starting for 3 1/2 years and has a better track record than Clay Holmes in that regard.   
 

Can we see what he gets paid before we label him overpaid?  Seems like an odd criticism from someone calling for Skubal… 

'23 transitioned to SP and had 9 GS

'24 30 GS

'25 Injured

'26 32 GS

Going into his age 32 season, that's not necessarily a "lengthy track record" of starting. 

[mvp 78]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Good point: that vaunted "Cherry Farm" sure turned sour.

The "Devastated DD Farm" produced better players.

And Cherington did a pretty bad job of drafting players while not trading anyone away.

Bloom stockpiled picks, but did a good job of at least identifying guys that had value. There were a bunch of MLB guys in dev when he left in '23.

 

[moonslav59]

Yes, and that was Bloom's number one task.

His second one was to build up the 26 and 40 man roster foundation, which had serious issues at the middle and  bottom portions on those rosters during and after the 2020 season. He did okay on this task, but mediocrity is not what Sox fans wanted. Withe budget he was handed, it wasn't ever easy to build better than meh.

Man! Brez sure did not hesitate to use his farm capital and borderline 40 man roster depth via trades.

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Yes, and that was Bloom's number one task.

His second one was to build up the 26 and 40 man roster foundation, which had serious issues at the middle and  bottom portions on those rosters during and after the 2020 season. He did okay on this task, but mediocrity is not what Sox fans wanted. Withe budget he was handed, it wasn't ever easy to build better than meh.

Man! Brez sure did not hesitate to use his farm capital and borderline 40 man roster depth via trades.

He built up the bottom of the 40 man (at least better than DD). However, he really struggled to create a successful 26 man roster. That was the downfall. 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

Yes, and that was Bloom's number one task.

After trading Mookie Betts (sorry, I just can't let anyone involved ever forget what they did).

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

He built up the bottom of the 40 man (at least better than DD). However, he really struggled to create a successful 26 man roster. That was the downfall. 

No doubt. My mantra was that he was expected to find "sdiamonds in the rough," like the Rays were known for, but found very few low grade gems.