Why isn’t Witt a realistic option?

[Hugh2]

23 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

My guess is that Witt has excess value of ~ $160M.  Neto has an excess vale of maybe $100M.  I'd rather add Neto and save half my farm.

Witt has a surpluss value of $230 million, while Neto has surplus value of 60.1 million

Witt's seems a little high, but he would still take a king ransom almost entirely not worth it.  Neto may be more realistic and he offers multiple years of control. 

[Hugh2]

BTV ACcepts Mayer/Eyanson/Harold Rivas for one Zach Neto.  Angels are getting $6 million surplus value from that trade, not sure if that's enough but it would certainly be close.  I'd make that deal. 

[Hugh2]

Only thing I don't like about Neto is his defense.  I suppose you could move him to 2nd/3rd and move up Arias to SS.  Maybe not this year but certainly going forward in 2027 they can do that.  He has the arm for 3rd, but the way Durbin has looked lately makes me think we have our 3rd baseman of the future now. 

[mvp 78]

I'm not giving up Eyanson for a guy who needs to be moved off SS and whose plate approach resembles Trevor Story. 

 

[drewski6]

16 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Neto seems much more worthy of pursuit than Witt. I'm not coming close to those offers suggested for Witt.

lol those offers are mostly not even close to what it would take.  neto isnt a generational player.  

[drewski6]

"im not giving up...."

"thats too much....."

"Oh no, not my beloved....."

I say trade em all 😎

[drewski6]

4 headlinez + tears

[drewski6]

im actually going to fenway today.  

[drewski6]

i have a papelbom, pedroia, and betts jersey....may pick up a new one.....

[drewski6]

i actually may have lost the pap in a move.

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, Hugh2 said:

He still has about 6 years of team control before he has an opt out. 

27-28-29-30

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

I'm not giving up Eyanson for a guy who needs to be moved off SS and whose plate approach resembles Trevor Story. 

 

Having seen some of the comments from the Angels fans in MLB-R, many are not fond of his fielding.

[Hugh2]

5 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

27-28-29-30

4 years my bad, that’s still a lot.  And if he’s opting out it’s because he was well worth it

[mvp 78]

11 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Having seen some of the comments from the Angels fans in MLB-R, many are not fond of his fielding.

He could benefit moving to 2b like Story did in '22. That's a lesser trade though! 

[JBontheMonstah]

I feel like nobody sees the big picture everyone keeps saying he’s untouchable. KC is not a big market team they are already talking about selling off wacha and Lugo and clearing that money, why would KC want to pay Witt $23 mil next year for a lockout and then 3 years later not even be able to sign him long term for what he’s worth.. his hometown discount deal is still worth $50-$60 mil a year and that will give the royals no money to spend around him . So now you got him for 3 years chancing injury and fall of play when you have a huge market for RHH right this second that would pay a ransom. Right now they could capitalize potentially save $70 mil from taking their 3 top paid guys off the payroll. Get a freaking haul for Witt that are younger and longer control than Witt.

it’s a perfect situation

im sending Roman-Early-Arias-Eyanson-J Gonzales-Witherspoon and Meyer for Witt/Lugo and eat Lugo’s money with it and not batting an eye. Red Sox showed they’d sign Soto so why not go get a better fit in Witt and pay him $800 million till he retires. 

[Behindenemylines]

It would start with Anthony and Early plus others to get Witt. Investing that much on one player never made sense to me. Look at the Mets and Soto. As great of a hitter he is, he is going to be a full-time DH before he is 30. 

[mvp 78]

10 minutes ago, JBontheMonstah said:

I feel like nobody sees the big picture everyone keeps saying he’s untouchable. KC is not a big market team they are already talking about selling off wacha and Lugo and clearing that money, why would KC want to pay Witt $23 mil next year for a lockout and then 3 years later not even be able to sign him long term for what he’s worth.. his hometown discount deal is still worth $50-$60 mil a year and that will give the royals no money to spend around him . So now you got him for 3 years chancing injury and fall of play when you have a huge market for RHH right this second that would pay a ransom. Right now they could capitalize potentially save $70 mil from taking their 3 top paid guys off the payroll. Get a freaking haul for Witt that are younger and longer control than Witt.

it’s a perfect situation

im sending Roman-Early-Arias-Eyanson-J Gonzales-Witherspoon and Meyer for Witt/Lugo and eat Lugo’s money with it and not batting an eye. Red Sox showed they’d sign Soto so why not go get a better fit in Witt and pay him $800 million till he retires. 

KC is trying to build a new stadium. Dumping your franchise player while doing so is really bad for business.

[JBontheMonstah]

1 minute ago, Behindenemylines said:

It would start with Anthony and Early plus others to get Witt. Investing that much on one player never made sense to me. Look at the Mets and Soto. As great of a hitter he is, he is going to be a full-time DH before he is 30. 

Witt isn’t Soto. Soto is a bad corner outfield with future DH written all over him. The nationals made the padres look like fools for that trade. Witt is hands down top 3 player in baseball. Soto is top 10 but I don’t know if he cracks top 5 with Ohtani, Judge, Witt, Skubal, Yordan in my top 5.  He sits in the Harper, Tatis, Guerrero, Henderson, Acuna level and probably worse defense than all of them and probably #1 in offense. 
 

Witt is young at a position that tends to stay in great shape long into their career. He has a better chance of playing later into his career like A Rod or Jeter at a higher level than turning into a Soto who’s going to continue getting fatter and slower and may turn into a Big Papi doubles home run and walk machine but has to be in a DH role for 7-10 years. 
 

if you replace Witt with Soto in that Nationals trade I don’t know if that’s a crazy bad deal if you end up signing him thru his entire career. Abrams great bat he should now be a 2nd basemen, saw hassell for a minute no clue what’s up with him, wood looks fantastic but he’s Stanton and judge size so how long does that last, gore looked great his arm will blow off sooner or later and probably for multiple seasons. 

[JBontheMonstah]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

KC is trying to build a new stadium. Dumping your franchise player while doing so is really bad for business.

I saw you say that before but they gonna have money for a new stadium and resigning Witt to a $500-$600 million contract at the exact same time while putting 24 other players around him with Noah Cameron, Caglianone, and Carter Jensen looking they could be worth a pretty dime a couple years later. If they start a stadium today it’s not done for 2-3 years and you got Witt looking for a new contract in 4-6 years and that stadium isn’t starting today so it’s gonna be around the same time.