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[moonslav59]

47 minutes ago, notin said:

1. Red Sox first 9-0 road trip since 1977.

2. Sox have swept 4 of the last 5 series.  That’s crazy. 

We only had won two series in a row once- way back in early/mid April.

It is crazy!

The one series we lost in this stretch was to WSH. The one before that was to COL.

W2-1 SEA

L1-2 COL

W4-0 NYY

L1-2 WSH

W3-0 LAA

W3-0 CWS

W3-0 NYM

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

It does clear it up, because earlier you said one way or another, implying maybe be all out buyers.

I'd rather see us sell than do nothing or very minor buying, but above all, I don't want to see us trade Eyanson or Arias to try and win now.

To me by choice (and this could change in 21 days) :

1. (Barely) Sell all free agents to be and maybe 2 year players, too.

2. (Barely) Mildly buy a bat and RP'er for prospects like Cespedes and maybe Phillips at most.

3. Buy moderately by trading Witherspoon or Valera and maybe Gonzales, Azocar or Godbout

4. Buy all out to try and win in 2026 (trading Arias and or Eyanson)

I said, I believe, that the worst possible alternative is to hedge AGAIN. I think we are on the same page except sell for me is much preferred. But if we are going to be buyers go all in. We have the pitching staff to compete but we will need at least one more good RHH and for Anthony to return. 

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

You thought and think this team sucks, yet you act like we are now 1-2 players away from a ring.

How many days ago was he quoting stats about how we had no chance?

[illinoisredsox]

2 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

3-3 in extras.

Nice editing.  You left off “especially on the road.”

At the time I wrote that, they were 0-2 in extras on the road this year (now1-2).  They were something around 1-8 in extras on the road last year.  Today doesn’t change those stats very much; they are bad in extras on the road mostly because they have been terrible about moving the ghost runner up and scoring him, leaving the home te needing only one run to win.

[moonslav59]

38 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I said, I believe, that the worst possible alternative is to hedge AGAIN. I think we are on the same page except sell for me is much preferred. But if we are going to be buyers go all in. We have the pitching staff to compete but we will need at least one more good RHH and for Anthony to return. 

If we are as bad as you think, "all in" cannot be even close to enough, and it would ruin the future.

That's one reason I am still for selling, although I'm nearly on top of the fence of 50-50.

If I ever get to the "buy" side of the fence, I will not be for trading Arias or Eyanson.

I might go as high as Witherspoon or Valera and Gonzales or Godbout, but not 3 of these 4 prospects. Okay, maybe Valera, Gonzales & Godbout, if it got us two studs, which they wont, but hey, Aldo Ramirez got us Schwarber, so...

[FredLynn]

29 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

If we are as bad as you think, "all in" cannot be even close to enough, and it would ruin the future.

That's one reason I am still for selling, although I'm nearly on top of the fence of 50-50.

If I ever get to the "buy" side of the fence, I will not be for trading Arias or Eyanson.

I might go as high as Witherspoon or Valera and Gonzales or Godbout, but not 3 of these 4 prospects. Okay, maybe Valera, Gonzales & Godbout, if it got us two studs, which they wont, but hey, Aldo Ramirez got us Schwarber, so...

As I have written we have the pitching to compete, but we will need a lot of help offensively. We aren't completely awful, but there is no legitimate source that even gives us even odds to get into the playoffs. This should have been taken care of over the winter. Its wasn't. The talent was out there, but Henry was too cheap to pay for it and/or BresLOW was too dumb to make it happen. The team isn't terrible, but it needs a lot of help and I am not sure BresLOW is smart enough to get it without giving up the farm. From what I hear teams do not want to deal with him. 

Pitching and defense wins rings, but during the season you have to score runs and we aren't capable of that right now.

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, JoeBrady said:

How many days ago was he quoting stats about how we had no chance?

Fangraphs gives us about a 40% chance. Vegas much less than that.

[JoeBrady]

1 hour ago, illinoisredsox said:

Nice editing.  You left off “especially on the road.”

At the time I wrote that, they were 0-2 in extras on the road this year (now1-2).  They were something around 1-8 in extras on the road last year.  Today doesn’t change those stats very much; they are bad in extras on the road mostly because they have been terrible about moving the ghost runner up and scoring him, leaving the home te needing only one run to win.

We were 2-3 before today.  There is a 50% you can be 2-3 or worse, or 3-2 or better.  IRT to road extras, we were 6-4 in 2024.  Add 1-8 to that and we are 7-12.

I don't think there is anything else there besides normal variance.  The Yankees are 1-4 in extras on the road this year. 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, FredLynn said:

As I have written we have the pitching to compete, but we will need a lot of help offensively. We aren't completely awful, but there is no legitimate source that even gives us even odds to get into the playoffs. This should have been taken care of over the winter. Its wasn't. The talent was out there, but Henry was too cheap to pay for it and/or BresLOW was too dumb to make it happen. The team isn't terrible, but it needs a lot of help and I am not sure BresLOW is smart enough to get it without giving up the farm. From what I hear teams do not want to deal with him. 

Pitching and defense wins rings, but during the season you have to score runs and we aren't capable of that right now.

Just admit we aren't close to being good enough to go "all in." If you can't, then all your talk of us being flops was in jest.

[FredLynn]

3 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Just admit we aren't close to being good enough to go "all in." If you can't, then all your talk of us being flops was in jest.

Gladly. As currently constructed we aren’t good enough to go all in. That’s why I want us to be sellers. Second choice-buyers. Last choice-hedge

[moonslav59]

Just now, FredLynn said:

Gladly. As currently constructed we aren’t good enough to go all in. That’s why I want us to be sellers. Second choice-buyers. Last choice-hedge

Having all in second doesnt make sense, if we are as bad as you think.

[FredLynn]

6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Having all in second doesnt make sense, if we are as bad as you think.

We aren’t good enough to compete for a ring right now. Add a couple of good bats to replace some of the bums and we could compete. It all depends on how BresLOW does at the TD. The pitching and defense are good enough. The offense needs improvement. 

[moonslav59]

18 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

We aren’t good enough to compete for a ring right now. Add a couple of good bats to replace some of the bums and we could compete. It all depends on how BresLOW does at the TD. The pitching and defense are good enough. The offense needs improvement. 

We aren't getting 2 controlled bats at the deadline. Thats not what all in is.

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

We aren't getting 2 controlled bats at the deadline. Thats not what all in is.

One is Anthony. The second one needs to be obtained. Perhaps one additional accessory piece to replace a bum now on the team. Same as over the winter. Yes-it will not be cheap. But we don’t have the pitching and defense every year to compete like this year. 

Better still, BresLOW could admit he screwed up this past winter and just sell.

[moonslav59]

30 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

One is Anthony. The second one needs to be obtained. Perhaps one additional accessory piece to replace a bum now on the team. Same as over the winter. Yes-it will not be cheap. But we don’t have the pitching and defense every year to compete like this year. 

Better still, BresLOW could admit he screwed up this past winter and just sell.

I'm not buying it.

You shoulda just stuck with calling us "flops" and beyond any hopes of midseason turnarounds, by saying "even with 2-3 additions."

[FredLynn]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm not buying it.

You shoulda just stuck with calling us "flops" and beyond any hopes of midseason turnarounds, by saying "even with 2-3 additions."

We are where we are. If Henry and BresLOW had done their jobs this past offseason we’d have been much better off. They are getting an undeserved second chance to make it right by preparing for a couple of years down the road. Or going all in. 

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

I enjoy reading the game threads the next day.  LOL at all the posts already calling it a loss before the 9th, I had the same feeling.  But when a team is on a roll the other team's shortstop boots a game ending double play ball and their worst hitter hits a bloop to tie the game.  Yes the Masa line drive was frustrating bad luck, that's baseball, but the damage had been done and we stole one yesterday.

Not sure I agreed with Tracy's strategy to play for 1 run in extras, seems to me you need 2, but it held up for one of the biggest wins of the year.  Shame they are breaking while they are so hot but Duran certainly needs a reset.  Wong is the correct answer at catcher, unfortunately.  

[mvp 78]

18 hours ago, jad said:

... we can all wonder, WTF is Duran doing in there as DH?  We don't have any other .190 hitters?

Y'all can just make a game thread. It wasn't a big deal before? 

If a game is about to start and one isn't made, just create one. 

[JoeBrady]

10 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm not buying it.

You shoulda just stuck with calling us "flops" and beyond any hopes of midseason turnarounds, by saying "even with 2-3 additions."

It's always the same.  Last week, we had no chance.  Now he wants Mulligan so that he can later say that he was right that we should've tanked, or that he was right that we should've gone all-in.

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

LOL at all the posts already calling it a loss before the 9th,

That's why I usually sign in after the game is over.  I'd prefer to talk BB during the game, and not listen to people losing their $chitt when the lead-off hitter gets to a 1-2 count.  I don't mind the complaints about a pitch challenge on the first pitch of the game, but the pitch-by-pitch criticisms are a bit too much.

[JoeBrady]

2 hours ago, Yaz Fan Since 67 said:

Shame they are breaking while they are so hot

Shades of Mortimer & Randolph Duke (2 of the greatest casting decisions ever) screaming "I want trading reopened right now. Get those brokers back in here! Turn those machines back on!"

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

It's always the same.  Last week, we had no chance.  Now he wants Mulligan so that he can later say that he was right that we should've tanked, or that he was right that we should've gone all-in.

Nobody on here has been right about this season. It's been a very weird season so far.

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Shades of Mortimer & Randolph Duke (2 of the greatest casting decisions ever) screaming "I want trading reopened right now. Get those brokers back in here! Turn those machines back on!"

It's the 4th year in a row where they've gone on a hot streak prior to the break. No excuses if they come back and drop a few. Need to keep the momentum going. 

[jad]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Y'all can just make a game thread. It wasn't a big deal before? 

If a game is about to start and one isn't made, just create one. 

That's what I did.  And you're even posting on it.

[Donnie Sadler was short]

14 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Gladly. As currently constructed we aren’t good enough to go all in. That’s why I want us to be sellers. Second choice-buyers. Last choice-hedge

I agree...try to get some long term pieces..but really try to improve this yeras team as all these young guys need to get a taste of the playoffs so in future years they will know how to handle being in the playoffs.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

22 hours ago, FredLynn said:

Masa waddles in from third

I thought you predicted the Sox to lose when it was 2-0. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

And if anyone actually waddles, it's probably you.

[JoeBrady]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Nobody on here has been right about this season. It's been a very weird season so far.

That's the difference between me and the rest of y'all.  You guys are wrong 50% of time.  I, OTOH, am right 50% of the time.

[Yaz Fan Since 67]

4 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

Shades of Mortimer & Randolph Duke (2 of the greatest casting decisions ever) screaming "I want trading reopened right now. Get those brokers back in here! Turn those machines back on!"

I didn't get the reference until I read the quote.  I really liked that movie. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

2 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

That's the difference between me and the rest of y'all.  You guys are wrong 50% of time.  I, OTOH, am right 50% of the time.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[FredLynn]

3 hours ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I thought you predicted the Sox to lose when it was 2-0. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

And if anyone actually waddles, it's probably you.

I’m not wrong often enough to get tired of it