Boston Red Sox, Houston Astros Engaging in Trade Talks

[moonslav59]

14 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

romy is hitter depth against righties, but pretty far down on the list I think.

romy is not hitter depth against lefties, hes a featured part of our lineup and a massive contributor.

Romy was not bad vs RHPs in 2025, either. He was the same as Rafaela v R, so he might be better at 2B, in theory- full time. They both had similar DRS and OAA at 2B.

[drewski6]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

Romy was not bad vs RHPs in 2025, either. He was the same as Rafaela v R, so he might be better at 2B, in theory- full time. They both had similar DRS and OAA at 2B.

Par? (defensively at 2b)

[moonslav59]

Just now, drewski6 said:

Par? (defensively at 2b)

In terms of DRS and OOA, yes, close.

DRS Rafaela +1/ Romy -1 Okay, Not super close

OAA Rafaela 0/ Romy -1 (in 123 more innings) very close.

I'd pull out Flg% but then I'd be a hypocrite.

91 assists & 43 POs in 288 innings Romy

34 assists & 35 POs in 165 innings Ceddanne

[drewski6]

32 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

They also have these projected games

111 Roman (122 wRC+)

105 Contreras 115

100 Abreu 114

99 Story 92

These are bad projections.

[drewski6]

so is paredes at weak side platoon.

[moonslav59]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

so is paredes at weak side platoon.

I think they just plan on everyone getting hurt for 50 games.

[drewski6]

their formula isnt taking enough into account.  they are prob weighing last years games played heavily or last 3 years, but its not valid for roman. 1. it skews his expected games played because his lower games played last year was partly due to him not being established and obviously hes not starting 2026 in aaa

also sure got hurt last year but thats not enough data for me to consider him so injury played that 111 starts making sense as an objective best guess to games played

[moonslav59]

I do agree that his wRC+ projection is better than anyone on the Sox is reason enough to make the trade happen-- like-- YESTERDA!

[drewski6]

"i hate jd drew. yes he does everything well, but hes only going to give you 135 games played. grrrr. outta town with that bum"

[notin]

Another potential pivot for the Sox might be Lenyn Sosa.  His 22HRs for the White Sox would have been third on the Red Sox.  The White Sox seem to have spent the offseason quietly rebuilding their infield, which might relegate Sosa to the bench…

 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/lenyn-sosa-672820?stats=statcast-r-hitting-mlb

[Jean-Sébastien Blouin]

Why not give Mayer and Campbell a chance with another season in the major leagues? Campbell finished strong in AAA last year.

[drewski6]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

I do agree that his wRC+ projection is better than anyone on the Sox is reason enough to make the trade happen-- like-- YESTERDA!

and i do agree that bad projected games played (in romans case) made me compare apples to oranges (not checking romans games played)

I 2x checked cuz notin said hes currently penciled in for weak side platoon so i went to check his projected games and saw less than 100 and thought thats prob 100% against lefites but 50% against righties so not pure platoon but obvs platoonish

so then i was like wow, well, thats even worse (and saw no red sox were ranked in the top 31 and paredes was) but i didnt think to check red sox players game played projected cuz i thought maybe notin was right on the platooning and thats why paredes gp was so low

so sorry notin, im back to thinking no way paredes is anything of a platoon, because you find a way to get that bat in. If it was 105 wRC+ thats one thing, but 125 is a "no bench" unless theres splits and its only like 100 against righties (which if its me, i prob still play) but im a bat first kinda guy.

but yes, these i agree. Need paredes.  his wrc+ would be best based on zips projections and even though im losing faith in these projections based on their low games played projections - i still think that says something.

like if someone leads the league in strikeouts and youre like well theres contributing factors for example he has noodlebats around him so hes not going to take a walk and he always has the green light, im like okay maybe that explains some of it but you cant context away dead last.

im losing faith in the calculation, but hed be #1 on sox in wrc+ so this trade needs to happen. ANd if the formula is bad and romans wrc+ should be higher because they are not projecting enough at-bats for roman...then great. But that would make paredes second and still a must get.

[notin]

2 minutes ago, Jean-Sébastien Blouin said:

Why not give Mayer and Campbell a chance with another season in the major leagues? Campbell finished strong in AAA last year.

Mayer likely already has a role; the only question is where.

Campbell is probably in the picture, but shouldn’t be handed anything in January..

[moonslav59]

Some notable wRC+ projections for 2026:

1. Judge 172

2. Soto 165

11. KMarte 136

15. Schwarber 133

21. Alonso 130

29. Devers 125 & Paredes (wanna talk replacing Devers?)

38. Anthony 122 & Bichette

41. Bregman 121

62 Donovan 117

69. Polanco 116 & Bellinger

75 Contreras 115 & Vientos

85. Abreu 114

90. Chisholm 113 & Casas/Okamoto

100 G Torres 112

105 Bogey 111

110 Yoshida 110

130. Meidroth 108 & E Suarez/B Baty

140. Hoerner 107 & Duran

155. Teel 106

175. M Shaw 104 & Romy

 

[Jean-Sébastien Blouin]

For months I thought that Mayer could play third base against right-handers and Gonzalez against left-handers, and Campbell could be the regular second baseman.

[notin]

3 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

and i do agree that bad projected games played (in romans case) made me compare apples to oranges (not checking romans games played)

I 2x checked cuz notin said hes currently penciled in for weak side platoon so i went to check his projected games and saw less than 100 and thought thats prob 100% against lefites but 50% against righties so not pure platoon but obvs platoonish

so then i was like wow, well, thats even worse (and saw no red sox were ranked in the top 31 and paredes was) but i didnt think to check red sox players game played projected cuz i thought maybe notin was right on the platooning and thats why paredes gp was so low

so sorry notin, im back to thinking no way paredes is anything of a platoon, because you find a way to get that bat in. If it was 105 wRC+ thats one thing, but 125 is a "no bench" unless theres splits and its only like 100 against righties (which if its me, i prob still play) but im a bat first kinda guy.

but yes, these i agree. Need paredes.  his wrc+ would be best based on zips projections and even though im losing faith in these projections based on their low games played projections - i still think that says something.

like if someone leads the league in strikeouts and youre like well theres contributing factors for example he has noodlebats around him so hes not going to take a walk and he always has the green light, im like okay maybe that explains some of it but you cant context away dead last.

im losing faith in the calculation, but hed be #1 on sox in wrc+ so this trade needs to happen. ANd if the formula is bad and romans wrc+ should be higher because they are not projecting enough at-bats for roman...then great. But that would make paredes second and still a must get.

Fangraphs Roster Resource, or ss I call them the Very Unofficial Roster Resource, lists him as a platoon corner OF.  Not me.

 

But with the return of Carlos Correa taking over 3b, if the Astros keep Altuve at 2b, it does get tough to find a spot for him.  Do you bench Christian Walker? Yordan Alvarez? 
 

I could see him getting traded…

[drewski6]

18 minutes ago, notin said:

Fangraphs Roster Resource, or ss I call them the Very Unofficial Roster Resource, lists him as a platoon corner OF.  Not me.

 

But with the return of Carlos Correa taking over 3b, if the Astros keep Altuve at 2b, it does get tough to find a spot for him.  Do you bench Christian Walker? Yordan Alvarez? 
 

I could see him getting traded…

I dont work in these absolutes, i believe in rotations. but some games christian walker rides the pine, some days altuve plays outfield, some days i do other things, but im not keeping paredes on the bench more than i would any other 125 wRC+ to prevent me from moving guys around. i move guys around.

[drewski6]

if everyone is getting 140 games, then theres a lot of games to super-sub in for.  Paredes may be a weak side platoon in the outfield vs lefties, but he would also be a supersub against righties.  Maybe not plan a at a position for any position against righties, but hes playing in more than 100 games for me.

I embrace platoons, nights off, versatility, shuffling, flexibility. Im new school.

[drewski6]

altuve gets 15 games off, correa does, walker does. thats 45 games against righties. one of them will get hurt at some point, so thats another 14-45 games. plus he plays against every lefty.

Hes not going to sit against every righty, and if he were, his projected games played wouldnt be 95, it would be 45. Still 95 is too low.

[JoeBrady]

55 minutes ago, Jean-Sébastien Blouin said:

Why not give Mayer and Campbell a chance with another season in the major leagues? Campbell finished strong in AAA last year.

In the last 15 games, Campbell had 2 doubles, -0- triples, -0- HRs, with a 19/6 K/W.  I really wish he had finished strongly.

[vjcsmoke]

Parades would be a solid pickup. He's at least average to above average defensively. If he puts up .800 OPS again he is a notch below Bregman as a hitter but at least he would not be a liability either defensively or offensively.

I'm willing to give up one of Abreu or Duran for Parades as we have a surplus of corner outfielders.  I think the wrangling will come down to money and the secondary prospects given up in the deal. We might even need a 3rd team to come in so that the desired prospects change hands.

I'm optimistic if this trade gets done. Parades fills a need and his spray chart for Fenway park is very favorable.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, vjcsmoke said:

Parades would be a solid pickup. He's at least average to above average defensively. If he puts up .800 OPS again he is a notch below Bregman as a hitter but at least he would not be a liability either defensively or offensively.

I'm willing to give up one of Abreu or Duran for Parades as we have a surplus of corner outfielders.  I think the wrangling will come down to money and the secondary prospects given up in the deal. We might even need a 3rd team to come in so that the desired prospects change hands.

I'm optimistic if this trade gets done. Parades fills a need and his spray chart for Fenway park is very favorable.

I think Paredes has a better OPS than Bregman & Bichette in 2026 and maybe even Alonso & possibly Schwarber.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2 hours ago, JoeBrady said:

In the last 15 games, Campbell had 2 doubles, -0- triples, -0- HRs, with a 19/6 K/W.  I really wish he had finished strongly.

I heard he beat everybody in Woo in an arm wrestle except Payton Tolle. But he didn't Noah Song.

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, Jean-Sébastien Blouin said:

Why not give Mayer and Campbell a chance with another season in the major leagues? Campbell finished strong in AAA last year.

AUG - 744 OPS

SEP - 815 OPS

Seeing that Campbell still doesn't have a defensive home, he needs to do more than that to get a call up.

[moonslav59]

48 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

AUG - 744 OPS

SEP - 815 OPS

Seeing that Campbell still doesn't have a defensive home, he needs to do more than that to get a call up.

It will be interesting to see what position he plays in ST'ing.

Gotta be LF or 2B (maybe both.)

[JoeBrady]

15 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It will be interesting to see what position he plays in ST'ing.

Gotta be LF or 2B (maybe both.)

I have a good friend that knows a lot about real BB, and still thinks KC can be a 2B.  The problem is the RS have to pick a lane for him.

[moonslav59]

10 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

I have a good friend that knows a lot about real BB, and still thinks KC can be a 2B.  The problem is the RS have to pick a lane for him.

Agreed. He won't every become "capable" at one position, if they keep jerking him around.

The thing is, even if we trade Duran, the OF is still blocked. 2B does seem like the best "lane" in terms of team needs.

The OF might be his best chance at being "capable," or else he'll end up a DH, assuming he regains his hit tool.

[mvp 78]

31 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It will be interesting to see what position he plays in ST'ing.

Gotta be LF or 2B (maybe both.)

Someone said that they think he can still be good at 2b. So why send him to 2b? I think there must be considerable discussions about what he is and isn't good at with people on both sides. Since he didn't play 2b in the winter leagues, I think we know where Craig stands. 

[mvp 78]

19 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Agreed. He won't every become "capable" at one position, if they keep jerking him around.

The thing is, even if we trade Duran, the OF is still blocked. 2B does seem like the best "lane" in terms of team needs.

The OF might be his best chance at being "capable," or else he'll end up a DH, assuming he regains his hit tool.

I think they know 2b was his best chance for playing time. Even knowing that, they moved him off the position. 

[moonslav59]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I think they know 2b was his best chance for playing time. Even knowing that, they moved him off the position. 

I'm thinking they must believe his defense it just too awful to keep him at 2B.

Trading an OF'er makes his path a little easier, but he'd need an injury to play FT- or another OF'er trade. If we trade Duran, our OF is under team control for 4 years or more!

Maybe he ends up at DH, since we all know that slot is not logjammed... LOL!