Boston Red Sox Looking For An Upgrade Over Jarren Duran

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Of this list only Tucker is in Scwharbers league , hitting wise.  And I dont see that happening.  Im interested in Paredes, but hes not a big enough bat.

wRC+ over the past 3 years:

Tucker 147

Yandy 139

Ozuna 137 (never mentioned on here and would be cheap)

Schwarber 135

Alonso 128

Paredes 126

Naylor 124

Bellinger 123

Bregman 122

O'Hearn 121

Bichette 116

Soler 115

Suarez 115

Arraez 114

Torres 113

Lowe 111

Turner 110

[Larry Cook]

If we keep yoshida, then we may have to move an outfielder!

if we jettison yoshida, then we can keep our 4 current outfielders and everybody still gets enough at bats 

[mvp 78]

13 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

If we keep yoshida, then we may have to move an outfielder!

if we jettison yoshida, then we can keep our 4 current outfielders and everybody still gets enough at bats 

Do the 4 OFers include or exclude Campbell? 

[drewski6]

16 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Do the 4 OFers include or exclude Campbell? 

exclude. Hes talking about wanting to keep duran, cedanne, abreu, RA in the lineup.

[drewski6]

55 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

wRC+ over the past 3 years:

Tucker 147

Yandy 139

Ozuna 137 (never mentioned on here and would be cheap)

Schwarber 135

Alonso 128

Paredes 126

Naylor 124

Bellinger 123

Bregman 122

O'Hearn 121

Bichette 116

Soler 115

Suarez 115

Arraez 114

Torres 113

Lowe 111

Turner 110

Yes, but weighted for recency (which we should) and Schwarber looks much better.  Not saying we should only loook at last year, but last year should carry more weight than 3 yrs ago re: expected future performance

I really wanted Ozuna in a trade last offseason, and traded for him in my show franchise.  He won back to back MVPs as a DH.

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

Of this list only Tucker is in Scwharbers league , hitting wise.  And I dont see that happening.  Im interested in Paredes, but hes not a big enough bat.

Agreed, but if we get Paredes (3B/1B) and Suarez (3B) or Polanco (3B) that might be enough. Paredes (1B) and Bichette (2B) or Bregman (3B) ???

[drewski6]

Just now, moonslav59 said:

Agreed, but if we get Paredes (3B/1B) and Suarez (3B) or Polanco (3B) that might be enough. Paredes (1B) and Bichette (2B) or Bregman (3B) ???

sure. Paredes plays 3b and suarez plays 1b though.  Hes too old to play 3b full season (my opinion).  He can play there sometimes.  Like when we had Turner. He played some 2b, 3b, but also played a lot of 1b and DH because your body just cant handle 150 games at 3b when you are over 35.

[drewski6]

Most likely to get injured in RF at fenway, but 3b might be second.  Ball comes at you fast and theres a lot of diving around.

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Yes, but weighted for recency (which we should) and Schwarber looks much better.  Not saying we should only loook at last year, but last year should carry more weight than 3 yrs ago re: expected future performance

I really wanted Ozuna in a trade last offseason, and traded for him in my show franchise.  He won back to back MVPs as a DH.

Three years ago, Schwarber was 30. Was he not in his prime yet? Why should we heavily weight his '25 seasons that was a career high 152 wRC+? Do we think he'll be more likely to hit that way going forward? 

I can see minimizing 3 years ago for much older players and much younger players, but it doesn't seem to make too much sense for guys that are already in their prime. 

[drewski6]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Three years ago, Schwarber was 30. Was he not in his prime yet? Why should we heavily weight his '25 seasons that was a career high 152 wRC+? Do we think he'll be more likely to hit that way going forward? 

I can see minimizing 3 years ago for much older players and much younger players, but it doesn't seem to make too much sense for guys that are already in their prime. 

You should always weigh most recent season more.  Yes, when a disparity exists between last season and 2 seasons ago, a player is more likely to perform according to his most recent season.

But I agree that if he was 25, you would weight the 24 season even more.

[moonslav59]

17 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Yes, but weighted for recency (which we should) and Schwarber looks much better.  Not saying we should only loook at last year, but last year should carry more weight than 3 yrs ago re: expected future performance

I really wanted Ozuna in a trade last offseason, and traded for him in my show franchise.  He won back to back MVPs as a DH.

The recency has to be weighed with age, too.

[moonslav59]

16 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

sure. Paredes plays 3b and suarez plays 1b though.  Hes too old to play 3b full season (my opinion).  He can play there sometimes.  Like when we had Turner. He played some 2b, 3b, but also played a lot of 1b and DH because your body just cant handle 150 games at 3b when you are over 35.

Yes, I meant to put "1B" next to the Suarez-Paredes pairing.

[notin]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

wRC+ over the past 3 years:

Tucker 147

Yandy 139

Ozuna 137 (never mentioned on here and would be cheap)

Schwarber 135

Alonso 128

Paredes 126

Naylor 124

Bellinger 123

Bregman 122

O'Hearn 121

Bichette 116

Soler 115

Suarez 115

Arraez 114

Torres 113

Lowe 111

Turner 110

I don’t mention Ozuna because he’s a DH/OF type.  If he was a DH/1b, that’s different…

[notin]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

Yes, but weighted for recency (which we should) and Schwarber looks much better.  Not saying we should only loook at last year, but last year should carry more weight than 3 yrs ago re: expected future performance

I really wanted Ozuna in a trade last offseason, and traded for him in my show franchise.  He won back to back MVPs as a DH.

No one mentioned he won back-to-back MVPs in The Show.  That changes everything!

I had him ok mu MLB 9 Innings team, but halfway through the season his character got arrested for DUI so I had to drop him…

[drewski6]

22 minutes ago, notin said:

No one mentioned he won back-to-back MVPs in The Show.  That changes everything!

I had him ok mu MLB 9 Innings team, but halfway through the season his character got arrested for DUI so I had to drop him…

I wanted him so bad when he was a free agent. But the character concerns are real. I care more about choking women than the DUI.

[drewski6]

22 minutes ago, notin said:

No one mentioned he won back-to-back MVPs in The Show.  That changes everything!

I had him ok mu MLB 9 Innings team, but halfway through the season his character got arrested for DUI so I had to drop him…

In the year 2031, Elly had a  46 HR, 154 SB season 

[Larry Cook]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Do the 4 OFers include or exclude Campbell? 

Exclude! He needs more time in Worcester! His confidence and swagger are lacking! 

[Deja Doh]

Paredes' home run spray chart makes him look like he's built for Fenway.

 

[drewski6]

1 minute ago, Deja Doh said:

Paredes' home run spray chart makes him look like he's built for Fenway.

 

wow, thats pretty extreme, haha.  Good!

[Larry Cook]

26 minutes ago, Deja Doh said:

Paredes' home run spray chart makes him look like he's built for Fenway.

 

Does he hit into a ton of double plays??

[Duran Is The Man]

1 hour ago, drewski6 said:

In the year 2031, Elly had a  46 HR, 154 SB season 

and he lost out on the MVP award to Aaron Judge and his 12 HR, 52 RBI season because, well...he plays for the Yankees.

 

 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Does he hit into a ton of double plays??

55 in over 2200 PAs.

14 in his last 650.

Over the last 2 seasons, he's averages 25 HRs/162.

115 Ks and 80 BBS per 162.

.348 OBP

.420 SLG (not great)

.768 OPS for the 26 year old.

[notin]

16 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I wanted him so bad when he was a free agent. But the character concerns are real. I care more about choking women than the DUI.

I do, too.  But I was writing a joke about him in video games, and I felt it best to keep that particular incident out of the punchline…

[notin]

16 hours ago, Deja Doh said:

Paredes' home run spray chart makes him look like he's built for Fenway.

 

While I love Paredes at Fenway, bear in mind most of those pepper off the monster rather over it.  Hes got some line drive in that swing.

Ive mentioned him before, but Houston reportedly has no interest in moving him…

[Deja Doh]

The problem with Suarez is he'll be 35 (and could get drafted into the Venezuela army).  His OBP the last few years has been terrible.  At the most we would be looking at a one or two year rent option.  Doesn't fill the hole for next 3 years.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

3 minutes ago, Deja Doh said:

The problem with Suarez is he'll be 35 (and could get drafted into the Venezuela army).  His OBP the last few years has been terrible.  At the most we would be looking at a one or two year rent option.  Doesn't fill the hole for next 3 years.

The real problem with Suarez in his 30s are his 162-game averages for the past four seasons:

34 Home Runs but .318 OBP and 201 STRIKEOUTS...

... that's a lot of nothing for not very much all.

[Deja Doh]

Just now, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

The real problem with Suarez in his 30s are his 162-game averages for the past four seasons:

34 Home Runs but .318 OBP and 201 STRIKEOUTS...

... that's a lot of nothing for not very much all.

I was kidding about the army thing.  He's hit 49 HR's in a season twice.  This last season his OBP was 0.298.  198 K's and 16 GIDP, doesn't help matters.  And he's 35.

[moonslav59]

34 to 49 HRs are not really nothing.

His age is very worrisome, but he may cost half of what Alonso & Schwarber will cost.

I'd love to see us get 2 big bats- one from each group (last resort a B with a C) :

A: Alonso or Schwarber

B: Suarez, K Marte (trade) or Polanco

C: Bregman or Bichette (both fill our high need at 3B or 2B)

The B group will likely cost less money than the C group.

I'm not sure Suarez and Polanco float my boat, but KMart & Suarez, along with a solid #2 SP'er would get me close to my minimum needs-filled point.

 

[Larry Cook]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

34 to 49 HRs are not really nothing.

His age is very worrisome, but he may cost half of what Alonso & Schwarber will cost.

I'd love to see us get 2 big bats- one from each group (last resort a B with a C) :

A: Alonso or Schwarber

B: Suarez, K Marte (trade) or Polanco

C: Bregman or Bichette (both fill our high need at 3B or 2B)

The B group will likely cost less money than the C group.

I'm not sure Suarez and Polanco float my boat, but KMart & Suarez, along with a solid #2 SP'er would get me close to my minimum needs-filled point.

 

Not a lot of talk among the national media about either twins starter that might or might not be available 

[moonslav59]

1 hour ago, Larry Cook said:

Not a lot of talk among the national media about either twins starter that might or might not be available 

I've heard some talk on Ryan and Lopez.

Google Pablo Lopez available and it lists the Braves, Dodgers and others. On the "Twins Digest" they suggest he is "more available" than Ryan, and for obviou$ rea$on$.

The Joe Ryan available google nets more nuances links- more speculative than hard facts. Their owner even hinted that he's not available, but I have to think they'd say yes to the right offer. Waiting for the deadline might be their thought. One article suggested Arias and Witherspoon. It also mention using players from this group: Romero "blocked" and a 1-2 pitchers from Phillips, Eyanson, Monegro & Clarke, but I think it takes more than 3 from that group. I'm not even sure Arias, Witherspoon and Phillips/Monegro/Eyanson is enough.