A Realistic Look at the 2026 Red Sox: Part I

[drewski6]

8 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

If they trade Chapman AND Whitlock, that bullpen is going be really, really bad next season. The end of this year would be tank city. 

Reminder: Breslow spit in whitlocks face too.

[drewski6]

2 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Indeed, but at least this is a better combo.

Some are still complaining about us not getting some players that are off to bad starts- like it wouldn't have helped anyway, right?

some people are high fiving about all the guys we didnt sign.  Calm down, last place

[JoeBrady]

46 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

So just because he isnt hitting in Chitown isnt a guarantee to me he wouldnt hit well here.

Reminder: we lost bregman because of breslows inability to not talk down to people.

1-You can justify any player signing on that basis.  We should've signed signed Bichette and traded Tolle & Early for Marte, because both guys might have a .900 OPS at Fenway.

2-My understanding was that the biggest issue for Bregman was the no-trade.

[JoeBrady]

40 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Brez didnt start saying pitching and D until Bregman walked out of the room laughing at Breslow with Breslow screaming "you dont have an offer from the cubs" 

Do you have backup for that?

[JoeBrady]

26 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I think the hope was that the younger players improve and provide lift to the lineup. That clearly hasn't happened. Also, younger players have a wide variance in their performance early on in their careers. It should have been anticipated that everything would be smooth. 

A very fair observation.  But Story & Duran have been every bit the problem as Anthony, Mayer and Durbin.

[moonslav59]

8 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

some people are high fiving about all the guys we didnt sign.  Calm down, last place

It's fair to point out that while Brez's choices have not done poorly- Suarez, Contreras and Gray, we still suck, other people's choices look worse, so far.

There were plenty of players I wanted signed- some doing okay or well- and some sucking.

It's not high-fiving, but laying blame on others, while our ideas sucked, too just seems a bit lame, to me.

[moonslav59]

4 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

A very fair observation.  But Story & Duran have been every bit the problem as Anthony, Mayer and Durbin.

And having Bregman and or Alonso would not make them better, this year.

[JoeBrady]

11 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Indeed, but at least this is a better combo.

Some are still complaining about us not getting some players that are off to bad starts- like it wouldn't have helped anyway, right?

That's my favorite part of the conversation. Marte, Bregman, Bichette, etc., to revert to form.  As I do Story, Duran, (Anthony and Crochet as well, if healthy).  But to hear fans say, or at least imply, "if only we paid $72M for Bregman's and Bichette's combined 0.2 bWAR, and traded Tolle and Mayer for Marte's 0.2, we'd be doing great", is amusing.

[JoeBrady]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It's fair to point out that while Brez's choices have not done poorly- Suarez, Contreras and Gray, we still suck, other people's choices look worse, so far.

And again, as I point out everyday, the issue is Story, Anthony, Duran, Crochet & Bello.  They are NOT the only issues, but if we had last year's stats from them, we'd have already clinched a playoff spot.

[drewski6]

13 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Do you have backup for that?

already provided multiple times.

[drewski6]

6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

It's fair to point out that while Brez's choices have not done poorly- Suarez, Contreras and Gray, we still suck, other people's choices look worse, so far.

There were plenty of players I wanted signed- some doing okay or well- and some sucking.

It's not high-fiving, but laying blame on others, while our ideas sucked, too just seems a bit lame, to me.

yes, if a bunch of randos on a sox forum propose signings / trades that may have had mixed results (we dont know for sure that players struggling elsewhere should have struggled here)....Then the only logical conclusion that a GM who took this team straight to last place, with a bunch of experts who preseason said "19th best offense, pass" , when that GM also ruined multiple relationships (Tek aint coming back) and spit in the face of multiple players (bregman, whitlock, devers).....Then the only conclusion is that the GM cannot be blamed ever.

I wanted Schwarber and Bregman, adn I think (sincerely) with GM Drewski, we wouldnt be here in  last place.

[drewski6]

Hey hey ho ho, craig breslow has got to go

[mvp 78]

21 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Do you have backup for that?

This is a misattributed quote!!! I didn't say this. 

[drewski6]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

This is a misattributed quote!!! I didn't say this. 

how does that even happen?

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

I wanted Schwarber and Bregman, adn I think (sincerely) with GM Drewski, we wouldnt be here in  last place.

Who plays 1b? 

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

how does that even happen?

Sometimes, it's just not my day. 

[moonslav59]

6 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

yes, if a bunch of randos on a sox forum propose signings / trades that may have had mixed results (we dont know for sure that players struggling elsewhere should have struggled here)....Then the only logical conclusion that a GM who took this team straight to last place, with a bunch of experts who preseason said "19th best offense, pass" , when that GM also ruined multiple relationships (Tek aint coming back) and spit in the face of multiple players (bregman, whitlock, devers).....Then the only conclusion is that the GM cannot be blamed ever.

I wanted Schwarber and Bregman, adn I think (sincerely) with GM Drewski, we wouldnt be here in  last place.

I'm not sure where you are getting that train of logic from. Not a single poster is even hinting at the idea that the GM can never be blamed.

Also, I doubt Schwarber & Bregman (and no Suarez, Contreras and Gray) keeps us out of last place, so nice try. Maybe even those 2 plus 1-2 of the 3 we got wouldn't have been enough.

 

[mvp 78]

23 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

A very fair observation.  But Story & Duran have been every bit the problem as Anthony, Mayer and Durbin.

Expecting consistency from Story may be too much to ask. Duran? IDK. 

[drewski6]

3 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Who plays 1b? 

Roman

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm not sure where you are getting that train of logic from. Not a single poster is even hinting at the idea that the GM can never be blamed.

Also, I doubt Schwarber & Bregman (and no Suarez, Contreras and Gray) keeps us out of last place, so nice try. Maybe even those 2 plus 1-2 of the 3 we got wouldn't have been enough.

"Some people thought it was good that Cora was fired. Therefore, they believe that Breslow is amazing and should never be fired." 

Cora bad. Breslow bad, but has plot armor. 

[Old Red]

11 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Hey hey ho ho, craig breslow has got to go

I understand there were fans at Fenway last night with bags on their heads. Could have been Cora, but it could get ugly.

[moonslav59]

2 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

"Some people thought it was good that Cora was fired. Therefore, they believe that Breslow is amazing and should never be fired." 

Cora bad. Breslow bad, but has plot armor. 

Good one!

[mvp 78]

2 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Roman

You're going to make one of the best young defensive OFers in baseball a 1B? 

 

[drewski6]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

I'm not sure where you are getting that train of logic from. Not a single poster is even hinting at the idea that the GM can never be blamed.

Also, I doubt Schwarber & Bregman (and no Suarez, Contreras and Gray) keeps us out of last place, so nice try. Maybe even those 2 plus 1-2 of the 3 we got wouldn't have been enough.

 

Okay, but this GM specifically needs to be blamed for taking this team straight to last place.  Most preseason predictions were low on our offense.  And now we have the worst offense.....since......ever?  Oh and weve ruined multiple relationships.  Even the ownership had to correct Breslow when he was like it was a joint decision....They were like what? no , it was you.

It all reeks of dysfunction.  

If you cant turn around and identify Breslow as a problem here, then you are incapable of blaming a GM.

[drewski6]

5 minutes ago, Old Red said:

I understand there were fans at Fenway last night with bags on their heads. Could have been Cora, but it could get ugly.

Im with the bagheads.  I mean , I wouldnt give up a night to watch these lifeless, pathetic losers...Even if I had a free ticket....But if like I had to be there for some reason, Id be hiding my face too.

This is an embarrassing team put together by a smug ego-tripper who is fumbling his way though. This chump  (bres) cant even fake it till he makes it.

But if some people want to high five over all the guys we didnt sign, I mean have at it.  Its weird, but fine.

[mvp 78]

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

Okay, but this GM specifically needs to be blamed for taking this team straight to last place.  Most preseason predictions were low on our offense.  And now we have the worst offense.....since......ever?  Oh and weve ruined multiple relationships.  Even the ownership had to correct Breslow when he was like it was a joint decision....They were like what? no , it was you.

It all reeks of dysfunction.  

If you cant turn around and identify Breslow as a problem here, then you are incapable of blaming a GM.

Honestly, Sam doing that was a big PR mistake. What a dum dum. Even if it was up to Breslow, you don't say put it back on the CBO like that. Sam is just worthless. All communication from the Sox FO stinks (Brez, Sam, Tom, Henry, etc.). 

However, who here hasn't held Breslow accountable at all? I don't understand that point. Who is this mysterious fanboy who refuses to let anyone be mean to Craig? Since the Devers trade, it's been a disaster. They are just stuck with him for now because they have had too much churn at the CBO position and nobody takes this FO seriously anymore. They got Craig because real candidates didn't want the job. 

[JoeBrady]

43 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

And having Bregman and or Alonso would not make them better, this year.

Bregman + Alonso = 1.6 bWAR

Contreras + Durbin = 1.9 bWAR

[Old Red]

10 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Bregman + Alonso = 1.6 bWAR

Contreras + Durbin = 1.9 bWAR

It doesn’t mean Bregman, and Alonso wouldn’t have better stats if playing in Fenway just as I believe Raffy would.

[drewski6]

8 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

You're going to make one of the best young defensive OFers in baseball a 1B? 

 

Yep.  I think a bodytype like Romans can play OF when you are young, but eventually the bulk causes a decrease in fleet-footedness and the injury risk starts outweighing the excess defensive value of having Roman there.  Hes had a few back injuries, and Im not sure he can give you more than 120 games in the OF.  Maybe next year and the one after, but not 100% its the right long term home.

[drewski6]

27 minutes ago, JoeBrady said:

Bregman + Alonso = 1.6 bWAR

Contreras + Durbin = 1.9 bWAR

Red Sox = last place