Red Sox 2025 Trade Deadline Thread

[FredLynn]

4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Beyond a solid SP and a platoon 1B bat, what are all these holes?

Two trades would have put us in the top 3 ballpark.

Those two would have helped. Also a backup catcher because Wong stinks and a solid RP. I would not have been willing to pay the price for filling all those holes. But not selling off valuable assets like Chapman? Thats just poor management.

[FredLynn]

1 minute ago, notin said:

I find it interesting they really need a 1b, but instead of acquiring one, they dealt away their top two in the minors…

Casas will be their primary 1B in 2026.

[notin]

2 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Casas will be their primary 1B in 2026.

Who knows when he will be back, or when he will be gone again…

[iortiz]

Matz and May will be noting but long RP arms which is not a bad idea on paper.

With Ryan obviously you get better but ain’t enough to contend though. You need a 800 1B as well to legitimately contend IMO.

[Kimmi]

32 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Sick of the whole "had interest in _____" reports.

I know it's frustrating when we don't get the player(s) we were hoping for.  We have to remember that it takes two to tango.  We don't know who was actually available at a reasonable price.  As far as the players who were traded, perhaps the receiving team matched up better with the team trading the player than we did.  There are a whole lot of conversations going on that we are unaware of.  It's not as simple as it may seem, especially balancing the present with the long term.

I'm disappointed in our deadline, but I try to keep these things in mind.

[FredLynn]

4 minutes ago, notin said:

Who knows when he will be back, or when he will be gone again…

I had this discussion  earlier. Most people with his injury take 6-12 months to fully recover. You can't plan for the worst possible case when the likelihood is that he will make a full recovery and be back on opening day or shortly thereafter.

[Kimmi]

Well, I wanted a #2 or #3 starter and a back end reliever.  We got May and Matz.  Do they qualify?  🙃

[iortiz]

Just now, FredLynn said:

I had this discussion  earlier. Most people with his injury take 6-12 months to fully recover. You can't plan for the worst possible case when the likelihood is that he will make a full recovery and be back on opening day or shortly thereafter.

IMO Casas is done as a Red Sox player. His train passed unfortunately for him this season. The window to contend has opened for the Sox and they won’t wait him.

[vegasbob]

3 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

I had this discussion  earlier. Most people with his injury take 6-12 months to fully recover. You can't plan for the worst possible case when the likelihood is that he will make a full recovery and be back on opening day or shortly thereafter.

But remember,  TC is a slow starter so you must add 3-4 months to the physical healing

Even then he is a weak fielder

[Jasonbay44]

4 minutes ago, Kimmi said:

Well, I wanted a #2 or #3 starter and a back end reliever.  We got May and Matz.  Do they qualify?  🙃

Matz is a pretty good reliever. May has looked really bad and I doubt he makes a positive impact 

[moonslav59]

16 minutes ago, notin said:

I find it interesting they really need a 1b, but instead of acquiring one, they dealt away their top two in the minors…

This, after having to trade for Garrett Cooper and Dom Smith, last year.

[moonslav59]

19 minutes ago, oldtimer said:

Numerous other teams made consequential trades, which on paper at least, should improve them. That indicates the Red Sox could have made those trades if the management had they had the will to do so. Clearly they did not, whether it be due to tight budget restrictions, ineffective management or any of many other reasons one could cite. Another year without the attempt to be a factor or even reach the playoff. It's a shame, since this team has the potential to make some noise. Now I expect that noise to be a whimper.

Some of these moves barely moved the budget needle.

Brez refused to part with better prospects or an established OF- plain & simple.

[moonslav59]

10 minutes ago, Kimmi said:

I know it's frustrating when we don't get the player(s) we were hoping for.  We have to remember that it takes two to tango.  We don't know who was actually available at a reasonable price.  As far as the players who were traded, perhaps the receiving team matched up better with the team trading the player than we did.  There are a whole lot of conversations going on that we are unaware of.  It's not as simple as it may seem, especially balancing the present with the long term.

I'm disappointed in our deadline, but I try to keep these things in mind.

Just about every trade made was an "overpay."

Brez was afraid to overpay by more.

[FredLynn]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

Some of these moves barely moved the budget needle.

Brez refused to part with better prospects or an established OF- plain & simple.

As well he shouldn't. But he should have sold off some players, like Chapman. who is what-37 now? Wonder what he would have brought here in return.

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

As well he shouldn't. But he should have sold off some players, like Chapman. who is what-37 now? Wonder what he would have brought here in return.

Bregman might have gotten what E Suarez got, despite the money, or we could have paid some of it.

Gio could have gotten a lot.

Chapman could have gotten what Duran and helsley got and then some.

Wilson, Buehler, Refsnyder could have gotten something with hope.

We could have been very well set up for 2026 had the Sox listened to you.

[FredLynn]

1 minute ago, moonslav59 said:

Bregman might have gotten what E Suarez got, despite the money, or we could have paid some of it.

Gio could have gotten a lot.

Chapman could have gotten what Duran and helsley got and then some.

Wilson, Buehler, Refsnyder could have gotten something with hope.

We could have been very well set up for 2026 had the Sox listened to you.

2026 or 2027, yes. They clearly played it dumb strategically. Now tanking won't even help much because the guys they draft won't be ready for years. I said a while ago I thought they needed to tear it all down starting at the top with the owner if they want to compete for a ring again. I haven't changed my mind.

[notin]

12 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Bregman might have gotten what E Suarez got, despite the money, or we could have paid some of it.

Gio could have gotten a lot.

Chapman could have gotten what Duran and helsley got and then some.

Wilson, Buehler, Refsnyder could have gotten something with hope.

We could have been very well set up for 2026 had the Sox listened to you.

Chapman as a 37yo rental was not getting a package anywhere near what Duran got.  Duran is over a decade younger and still has two seasons left after this one.

The Sox should have been able to rival Phillies package with Bryan Clarke and Password…

[Hugh2]

Dustin May was a top prospect at one point.  Have to think the Sox see something in him that can be fixed.

that would be fine but…..he’s a rental.  By the time they “fix” him if he is fixable he will probably be elsewhere.  

id love to be proven wrong and see the Sox help him put it all together but it’s certainly a very underwhelming move. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 hour ago, moonslav59 said:

I believe you, Fred.

So you believe a guy, who refers to the Sox as the Flops and the players as bums, has no pleasure in being right?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

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[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

1 hour ago, FredLynn said:

Basically they did nothing of significance at all to improve this year or in future years. Breslow should be fired and take Cora with him.

That I do agree with.

[FredLynn]

23 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

Dustin May was a top prospect at one point.  Have to think the Sox see something in him that can be fixed.

that would be fine but…..he’s a rental.  By the time they “fix” him if he is fixable he will probably be elsewhere.  

id love to be proven wrong and see the Sox help him put it all together but it’s certainly a very underwhelming move. 

Basically, to sum it up, the FLOPS did nothing significant again this year, being neither buyers nor sellers, while the competition significantly improved. Those are the facts and it just confirms what I thought the franchise has degraded into. I hope the fans boycott the part in protest. It was time to s*** or get off the pot and all they did was keep sitting.

[Randy Red Sox]

1 hour ago, FredLynn said:

Those two would have helped. Also a backup catcher because Wong stinks and a solid RP. I would not have been willing to pay the price for filling all those holes. But not selling off valuable assets like Chapman? Thats just poor management.

Like every year the Sox are just happy to be in contention for a WC. anything around .500 is fine with John Henry as long as the payroll continues to drop in relation to all of the other teams.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

5 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

That I do agree with.

Except who would want to be GM of this franchise? Maybe Cora.

[Randy Red Sox]

3 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Basically, to sum it up, the FLOPS did nothing significant again this year, being neither buyers nor sellers, while the competition significantly improved. Those are the facts and it just confirms what I thought the franchise has degraded into. I hope the fans boycott the part in protest.

it will never happen.  John Henry knows that

[moonslav59]

31 minutes ago, notin said:

Chapman as a 37yo rental was not getting a package anywhere near what Duran got.  Duran is over a decade younger and still has two seasons left after this one.

The Sox should have been able to rival Phillies package with Bryan Clarke and Password…

Yes, I forgot about Duran's control years.

He'd get what Helsely got.

[FredLynn]

3 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Except who wants to be GM of this franchise? Maybe Cora.

I’d do it. I couldn’t do any worse than Breslow.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, FredLynn said:

I’d do it. I couldn’t do any worse than Breslow.

You'd probably DFA Rafaela.

[FredLynn]

2 minutes ago, Randy Red Sox said:

it will never happen.  John Henry knows that

I don’t think they’re selling out every game anymore. That’s a start. 
The good news is that the Patriots start their season tomorrow. First preseason game. They made a lot of improvements and have the weakest schedule in the league. I think they’ll be much better than past years.

[moonslav59]

16 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

So you believe a guy, who refers to the Sox as the Flops and the players as bums, has no pleasure in being right?

Fred seems overly negative, especially in game threads, but he seems well informed and honest.

We have been flops and bums for over 5 years. Being realistic does not mean he takes pleasure in us being floppy bums.

I think he'd be happy to be wrong.