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Red Sox (Giolito) vs Blue Jays (Lauer): 4/30/25, 7:07pm

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vegasbob
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Good wishing, Nick.   My guess is that it will be a series of short starts 3-5 innings in May  to se if he can get people out at all.   Today will be interesting because the 5 short starts in AAA did

moonslav59
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Yes, especially with no outs.

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If I am interpreting Cot's correctly, Giolito is pitching this year at $19M and will be entitled to mutual option of $19M in 2026 if he pitches at least 140 innings in 2025. I think at most he has 25 starts left in 2025.

If he falls short of 140 innings, then the Sox has the option of returning him for 2026 at $14M.

Is it wrong of me to wish him 135 innings pitched with a ERA of 2.00?

 

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TBD is Jay's starter today.

Their rotation took a hit with double header versus the Yankees on Sunday, using Bassitt and Gausman. Berrios started Friday so he could pitch today or tomorrow. 

Jays sent down Lucas (#5 starter) after back to back poor starts on 4/20. 

Maybe they'll bring up someone or go with the bullpen.

I don't believe Scherzer is ready to pitch after his last injury.

They look thin at starting pitching.

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1 minute ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

Not wrong.

Delusional, maybe.

But not wrong.

I'm assuming 2.00 ERA is delusional and not the 135 innings pitched, correct? lo

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7 minutes ago, Nick said:

I'm assuming 2.00 ERA is delusional and not the 135 innings pitched, correct? lo

Correct.

gio has a career 4.43 ERA and hasn't had a sub-3.50 ERA since the covid shortened 2020 season.

Asking for him to now suddenly have the best ERA of his career might be a bit of a stretch.

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44 minutes ago, Nick said:

If I am interpreting Cot's correctly, Giolito is pitching this year at $19M and will be entitled to mutual option of $19M in 2026 if he pitches at least 140 innings in 2025. I think at most he has 25 starts left in 2025.

If he falls short of 140 innings, then the Sox has the option of returning him for 2026 at $14M.

Is it wrong of me to wish him 135 innings pitched with a ERA of 2.00?

It's going to be close to 140 if he pitches a full year from here on out. If he's great, he'll reach 140. If he starts off really slow, he has a really tough time of reaching 140. If he's absolutely atrocious, maybe the Sox don't even want him at 14M? 

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57 minutes ago, Nick said:

If I am interpreting Cot's correctly, Giolito is pitching this year at $19M and will be entitled to mutual option of $19M in 2026 if he pitches at least 140 innings in 2025. I think at most he has 25 starts left in 2025.

If he falls short of 140 innings, then the Sox has the option of returning him for 2026 at $14M.

Is it wrong of me to wish him 135 innings pitched with a ERA of 2.00?

 

Good wishing, Nick.   My guess is that it will be a series of short starts 3-5 innings in May  to se if he can get people out at all.   Today will be interesting because the 5 short starts in AAA did not give a lot of encouragement, but it's EARLY .

The 140 inning option trigger seems safe .  25 starts at 5 2/3rds  = 141 innings.  Gio isn't getting there.

 

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11 minutes ago, vegasbob said:

Good wishing, Nick.   My guess is that it will be a series of short starts 3-5 innings in May  to se if he can get people out at all.   Today will be interesting because the 5 short starts in AAA did not give a lot of encouragement, but it's EARLY .

The 140 inning option trigger seems safe .  25 starts at 5 2/3rds  = 141 innings.  Gio isn't getting there.

 

I agree about the 140 innings. That's why I said he'd have to be really great to get over 140 at this point. He averaged 5.5 IP/GS the previous two seasons. He hasn't averaged 6 IP since 2020 when he was 25 and receiving CY votes. 

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1 hour ago, mvp 78 said:

It's going to be close to 140 if he pitches a full year from here on out. If he's great, he'll reach 140. If he starts off really slow, he has a really tough time of reaching 140. If he's absolutely atrocious, maybe the Sox don't even want him at 14M? 

We'll pick him up at $14M and then he'll get hurt again with our luck....$52M investment, ugh (sorry, just get cynical at times)

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Just now, Nick said:

We'll pick him up at $14M and then he'll get hurt again with our luck....$52M investment, ugh

Would be like $430k per inning pitched! What a bargain in this economy! 

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2 hours ago, Nick said:

Yariel Rodriguez will be the starter. Bullpen game. He has pitched 2 innings on 2 occasions.

A Gio start could turn into a pen game, very quickly.

The odds may be close to even on who pitches more innings: YR or LG?

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One final thought before the game. There was a piece on MassLive talking about Devers playing 162 games because he is just a DH. Cora spoke about keeping Devers healthy and that seems to be his biggest concern with Devers.

That concern maybe what's holding back Devers from playing the field. Lots of interaction with ball and players while manning 1B. No point in losing 30 games because of a pulled muscle stretching to dig a ball on an errant throw.

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7 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

A Gio start could turn into a pen game, very quickly.

The odds may be close to even on who pitches more innings: YR or LG?

I'm okay with him giving up hits. Please no walk-a-thon. You know, throwing 50 pitches in 2 innings.

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6 minutes ago, Nick said:

One final thought before the game. There was a piece on MassLive talking about Devers playing 162 games because he is just a DH. Cora spoke about keeping Devers healthy and that seems to be his biggest concern with Devers.

That concern maybe what's holding back Devers from playing the field. Lots of interaction with ball and players while manning 1B. No point in losing 30 games because of a pulled muscle stretching to dig a ball on an errant throw.

I mentioned this over the winter and also suggested that if Casas and Devers shared DH/1B, maybe both could play 80+80 for 160. That could get both a lot more PAs, if it helps them stay healthy. (I'm still assuming Casas will start hitting well, again.)

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It may only be April 30, but Bregman is paying dividends on that contract.  Hope  the Red Sox have found and can keep Alex for the full term.

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