Red Sox 2025 Starting Rotation

[mvp 78]

7 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

Im not counting it out.  And hes closing the other 4

I don't have the right emoji for that one. 

[drewski6]

1 minute ago, mvp 78 said:

I don't have the right emoji for that one. 

💪

[drewski6]

And Im not sure that our game 2 starter wont be Crochets right arm.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

And Im not sure that our game 2 starter wont be Crochets right arm.

I like your attitude, and so do the ghosts of Christy Mathewson and Joe McGinnity -- who threw all but one inning of the '05 Series for the champion Giants... and their staff ERA of 0.00.

That was 1905.

[drewski6]

4 minutes ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

I like your attitude, and so do the ghosts of Christy Mathewson and Joe McGinnity -- who threw all but one inning of the '05 Series for the champion Giants... and their staff ERA of 0.00.

That was 1905.

Things come back around if you wait long enough. Even bell-bottoms.

[drewski6]

Even tweed!

[Larry Cook]

8 hours ago, 5GoldGlovesOF,75 said:

If Duran, Chapman and Bregman can carry a team to the World Series, then why not us?

because the rest of the Phillies team is so much more superior to ours. Just look at their starting rotation for example. 

[Kimmi]

6 hours ago, drewski6 said:

I do appreciate your mentality.  I dont jump for joy when a player gets trapped into such a team friendly deal that hes just trapped for life (get scottie pippen'd).  But I guess I do lvoe me a contract that works for both sides (even if its slightly more favorable to the team than the player, but key word is slightly)

Hey look Kimmi, looks like you dont exclusively root for "the laundry" (which you shouldnt and you dont).  

You're right, I don't root exclusively for the laundry.  There are a lot of former Red Sox players and players in general that I root for when they're not playing against the Sox.  Devers is not one of them, however.

[Kimmi]

5 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Contenders for a WC spot, sure. For the WS, not a chance even if they traded for Joe Ryan. 

The key is to make the playoffs.  Once there, anything can happen.  I'm a firm believer that the playoffs are a crapshoot.  If we make the playoffs, we'll have almost as good a chance as any of the other teams.

[moonslav59]

The last 30 Days...

Rotation:

0.70 Giolito 39 IP

2.18 Bello 33 IP

2.51 Crochet 32 IP

3.55 Fitts 13 IP

3.60 Dobbins 10 IP

(8.49 Buehler in 5 GS and 23 IP)

Pen: (5+ IP)

0.00 Chapman 9 IP

0.00 Murphy 6 IP

0.96 Alcara 9 IP

2.84 Kelly 6 IP

3.38 Wilson 5 IP

3.86 Whitlock 12 IP

4.86 Bernardino 10 IP

4.91 Weissert 11 IP

(10.13 Guerrero 5 IP)

WOW!!!

[Larry Cook]

Beuhler threw a decent game against Tampa!! The two meatballs hurt, but still a quality start!!!

just need everybody else in the rotation to keep throwing well!!!

I have more confidence in the lineup now than I did in April!!!  
 

but we only go as far as the rotation takes us!!!

[moonslav59]

9 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Beuhler threw a decent game against Tampa!! The two meatballs hurt, but still a quality start!!!

just need everybody else in the rotation to keep throwing well!!!

I have more confidence in the lineup now than I did in April!!!  
 

but we only go as far as the rotation takes us!!!

Hardly quality.

6 IP and 5 hits, including 2 HRs and 3 BB.

[mvp 78]

9 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Hardly quality.

6 IP and 5 hits, including 2 HRs and 3 BB.

Fine for a 5th starter. TB isn't a slouch offense either. 

[Soxlover]

Adding a solid #2 would be very nice for the playoffs, too

[Larry Cook]

6 hours ago, Soxlover said:

Adding a solid #2 would be very nice for the playoffs, too

Bres-slow says pitching is the priority for the deadline. 
It will be expensive, but I think he can find us a guy.  Probably someone we never discussed!! 

[moonslav59]

16 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Fine for a 5th starter. TB isn't a slouch offense either. 

It's not fine, when this is the best start the guy can give, and it happens once every 5 starts.

[Larry Cook]

Buehler has good stuff, but command and control are lacking!!  
he started the season with decent command and control, but got hurt and when he came back, he could not throw anything but balls and meatballs!!!  
I think he is starting to figure it out, but what if he regresses over the all-star break????

[mvp 78]

9 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

It's not fine, when this is the best start the guy can give, and it happens once every 5 starts.

I was saying THAT start was fine for a 5th starter not his overall performance.

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

I was saying THAT start was fine for a 5th starter not his overall performance.

Borderline, at best, unless you look at just ERs allowed (4.50 ERA for the game.)

His OPS Against that game must have been over 1.000.

[mvp 78]

12 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Borderline, at best, unless you look at just ERs allowed (4.50 ERA for the game.)

His OPS Against that game must have been over 1.000.

Doubtful since his OPS in 2 starts in July is 800.

[Soxlover]

2 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Doubtful since his OPS in 2 starts in July is 800.

.611 SLG and .380 OBP=..992. 
 

close and bad

[Larry Cook]

 Current rotation: 

1.) crochet - ace 

2.) tbd 

3.) giolita - pitching extraordinarily this past month!!!

4.) bello - starting to learn to go after hitters 

5.) fitts - we won the last two games he started. None before that!!

6.) beuhler - struggles to find the plate even if he has military grade gps!!!!!

put skenes in that number 2 spot and I think we can win the World Series!!! 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

On 7/11/2025 at 4:29 PM, Larry Cook said:

Bres-slow says pitching is the priority for the deadline. 
It will be expensive, but I think he can find us a guy.  Probably someone we never discussed!! 

Freddy Peralta of the Brewers has been mentioned by some Sox talking heads. He's under team control thru 2026.

[sk7326]

19 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Freddy Peralta of the Brewers has been mentioned by some Sox talking heads. He's under team control thru 2026.

Anything is possible - but the Brewers are like good and stuff.  They will need some path to not backslide if they were to do that. 

[Maxbialystock]

26 minutes ago, sk7326 said:

Anything is possible - but the Brewers are like good and stuff.  They will need some path to not backslide if they were to do that. 

 

[Maxbialystock]

I think the Sox already have a good enough rotation, lineup, and even bullpen for the playoffs.  

So job 1 is to get to get there.   The 2011 Sox were pretty good, but couldn't do it after they collapsed in September.  This team still has 67 games to play, and a lot can happen.  

 

 

[Soxlover]

We should start hearing about Sandoval, soon. We sigh guys like him, so we have a reason to not make a big deadline deal.

This one might just work! He’s a good one!!!

[Maxbialystock]

3 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

 Current rotation: 

1.) crochet - ace 

2.) tbd 

3.) giolita - pitching extraordinarily this past month!!!

4.) bello - starting to learn to go after hitters 

5.) fitts - we won the last two games he started. None before that!!

6.) beuhler - struggles to find the plate even if he has military grade gps!!!!!

put skenes in that number 2 spot and I think we can win the World Series!!! 

Forget tbd.  Not gonna happen by 31 July.  

When was the last time the Sox had 3 starters as good as Crochet, Bello, and Giglio?   They already have 31 quality starts in 49 starts and ERA's of 2.23, 3.14, and 3.36.  

 

 

[Larry Cook]

2 minutes ago, Maxbialystock said:

Forget tbd.  Not gonna happen by 31 July.  

When was the last time the Sox had 3 starters as good as Crochet, Bello, and Giglio?   They already have 31 quality starts in 49 starts and ERA's of 2.23, 3.14, and 3.36.  

 

 

Definitely been a while since we had three good starters, but I believe bres-slow will continue to be aggressive and try to find us that number 2 starter this month!!!

[moonslav59]

59 minutes ago, Larry Cook said:

Definitely been a while since we had three good starters, but...

You mean like over the last 4 weeks?

0.83 Giolito

2.18 Bello

2.18 Crochet (not counting today)