7/28 NYY at BOS

[vegasbob]

Remind me again, Weissert is the answer to what need ?

[d-money]

Yup on to 2025.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Losing Martin and Slaten has been a big hurt to this BP, but it's all part of the Story of this fragile team. Pun intended.

[vegasbob]

Who knew that Weissert was the answer to getting Verdugo out. Way to go

[illinoisredsox]

Remind me again, Weissert is the answer to what need ?

 

He fills the 5th-6th spot in the pen okay. Unfortunately, without Slaten and Martin, he’s being asked to fill anywhere from the 2-4 slot, and he’s not that type of pitcher.

 

Plus asking pitcher to get 5 outs in an inning …

Edited July 29, 2024 by illinoisredsox

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Remind me again, Weissert is the answer to what need ?

 

Need to stop getting players from Goodwill. Need to start acting like a big market team again. Need to get new ownership.

[illinoisredsox]

Who knew that Weissert was the answer to getting Verdugo out. Way to go

 

Who you going to use? You’ve got another game tomorrow and you’re going to need arms then, too.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Yup on to 2025.

 

 

They've overachieved for more than half the season, so kudos to that.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The only good thing about Conehead is he won't ever be inducted into the HOF.

He's got a voice for silent movies.

Edited July 29, 2024 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[illinoisredsox]

Sox pitching since the All Star break have allowed 4, 7, 9, 9, 0, 20, 7, 11 and 7 (so far) runs. 74 runs in 9 games, and include 1 shutout. That’s almost unfathomable.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Sox pitching since the All Star break have allowed 4, 7, 9, 9, 0, 20, 7, 11 and 7 (so far) runs. 74 runs in 9 games, and include 1 shutout. That’s almost unfathomable.

 

That '0' looks strange. But, then, so does the '20.'

[vegasbob]

He fills the 5th-6th spot in the pen okay. Unfortunately, without Slaten and Martin, he’s being asked to fill anywhere from the 2-4 slot, and he’s not that type of pitcher.

 

Plus asking pitcher to get 5 outs in an inning …

 

Correct. Gonzo and Devers provided no help. And the FO has known that Martin is likely a basket case for the duration, and Slaten has been out at least 2 full weeks. None of this is actually Weissert's fault. As you say he would normally be a #5/6 in a pen.

 

Only thing I'll say is he palays defense with his butt, but gets the out which Gonzo and Raffy didn't do

Edited July 29, 2024 by vegasbob

[moonslav59]

What an ugly way to end the weekend, and after such a nice start with Friday's big win.

[vegasbob]

Even if Brez made a deal for 2 relievers tonight, the players have 3 days, I believe , to report, so you will get into the Mariner's series with no help. I'm ready to put this season on the FO not reacting smartly to the injury situations, and to a MiLB contingent, not quite ready for primetime.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Before the ASB it was "full speed ahead, Captain." Since the ASB, it's been "we've just hit an iceberg, Captain. Women and children first."

[vegasbob]

Before the ASB it was "full speed a head, Captain." Since the ASB, it's been " we've just hit an iceberg, Captain. Women and children first."

 

But Captain, the ownership tried to save money so didn't buy any lifeboats for this freighter

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Based on the SOX pitching(actually lack of) and their remaining tough schedule, don't count the SOX out of reaching the cellar. They still have a lease on that basement apartment. Edited July 29, 2024 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

But Captain, the ownership tried to save money so didn't buy any lifeboats for this freighter

 

 

Well then it's "start swimming ya buggers."

[vegasbob]

It's one thing to get beat, it's another thing to get embarrassed by mental and physical errors, along side a disinterested attitude towards the game. A deserved loss that was over after the top half of 1st.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Based on the SOX pitching and their remaining tough schedule, don't count the SOX out of reaching the cellar. They still have a lease on that basement apartment.

 

And w/o super-sized Kenley and muscle-bound Tyler there will be much more room in the apartment.

Edited July 29, 2024 by SPLENDIDSPLINTER

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Even with all the time-saving clocks, the Yankems and SOX games still able to reach the 3 hour mark.

[moonslav59]

Pitchers who allowed a run per game:

 

4/4 today

4/6 yesterday

3/7 Friday

4/6 Wed

 

15 out of the last 23 outings

 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Cora now claims someone forged his name on that 3 year contract.

[FredLynn]

Well then it's "start swimming ya buggers."

 

It’s the same comment God had when Noah asked him to build an ark and Noah asked him if he was kidding:

 

“Noah-how long can you tread water?”

[moonslav59]

Even if Brez made a deal for 2 relievers tonight, the players have 3 days, I believe , to report, so you will get into the Mariner's series with no help. I'm ready to put this season on the FO not reacting smartly to the injury situations, and to a MiLB contingent, not quite ready for primetime.

 

They often take 1/2 day to 1 and 1/2 days to report.

[dgalehouse]

No drama in this game. Other than a couple of solo homers, just a dismal performance.

[Bellhorn04]

No drama in this game. Other than a couple of solo homers, just a dismal performance.

 

We gave up 7, 11 and 8 runs in the 3 games. With our 2 best starters going.

 

Our pitching is in meltdown mode.

[Old Red]

No drama in this game. Other than a couple of solo homers, just a dismal performance.

 

The Red Sox had the Yankees teetering on the ropes after Friday’s game, but let them off the hook Saturday, and now I believe the Yankees are in a lot better shape going forward than the Red Sox. Big Mo swung hard this weekend.

[Old Red]

We gave up 7, 11 and 8 runs in the 3 games. With our 2 best starters going.

 

Our pitching is in meltdown mode.

Last year it was the starters going down, and No replacements were added, and the team went with openers after openers for a long stretch, which turned out disastrous. This year the Red Sox knew they were in trouble at the AS break, and knew it was even going to get worse in Colorado without a closer in the BP, and NOTHING was done, and the results were 4 blown games late by the BP. Even if something is done big now to help the BP you won’t get those 4 losses back, and those 4 losses as all losses do could be the difference at the end of making the postseason, or not'

[moonslav59]

We gave up 7, 11 and 8 runs in the 3 games. With our 2 best starters going.

 

Our pitching is in meltdown mode.

 

Houck and Crawford hit the wall weeks ago. We needed to manage their IP and or pitch counts, all along. The lack of pitching depth killed us.

 

It might be too late to hope for a return to form from those two pitchers, even if we go to a 6 man rotation and baby them the rest of the way.

 

I can't see Pivetta, Criswell, Paxton and Bello taking up the slack.

 

We would need to trade for an ace and 2-3 solid RP'ers to get our staff back to top tier (10) or maybe 11th to 15th best.

 

I'm not feeling all that optimistic, anymore. I know two games should not flip a switch, but it's been more than the last 2 games. The rotation was showing signs of decline before th AS break, and the whole staff collapsed after the break.

 

I'm not sure adding 4 solid pitchers will be enough.