2024 Prospects

[mvp 78]

Here is a Q, who wins a 7 game series (w 2 days off) between Woo and POR?

 

Worcester

[moonslav59]

Worcester

 

The pitching is way better.

[moonslav59]

I really want to get excited about Yorkes play but it's such a small sample size after doing nothing to improve his stock for two years.

 

It's nice to see the big three are all looking great in AA, and all three look like they could be ready to start contributing to the team at some point in 2025.

 

I want to see more of this Ovis Portes kid, it's always fun to see someone pop. 19 tall righty already up to 98 MPH and misses bats.

 

Agreed.

 

Except for Wikelman, many of our top prospects and a few of the farther away ones have done pretty good to great, so far. It seems like there are now more than just 3 to have high hopes on, and the big three have done nothing to lower their stock, so far.

 

The Big 3

.856 Roman Anthony

.855 Marcelo Mayer

.853 Kyle Teel

(Amazing how they all have almost exactly the same OPS)

 

The Rising 3

.996 Kristian Campbell (This kid looks for real!)

.929 Jhostynxon Garcia (Maybe the biggest surprise)

.726 Bleis (staying healthy: promoted to A+)

 

The Welcome Back 3

1.110 Matthew Lugo (was pretty highly rated, once before)

.966 Niko Kavadas (maybe belongs in the Career AAA category)

.754 Nick Yorke (came alive in AAA SSS at 1.246)

 

The Still Far Away but Looking Good 3

1.063 Johanfran Garcia (SSS due to IL)

1.009 Yoelin Cespedes (Getting attention)

.786 Frankin Arias (FCL)

 

 

Have to work on some things/Career AAA 3

.892 Mickey Gaspar

.867 Nick Sogard

.801 Chase Meidroth

 

The Pitchers:

 

May Graduate Soon/Recent Graduate 3 (OPS Against)

.553 at MLB level Justin Slaten

.288 Zach Kelly (.539 in MLB in 84 PAs Against)

.374 Cam Booser (.667 in MLB w 101 PAs Against)

 

The Near MLB Ready 3

.671 Richard Fitts

.710 Luis Guerrero

.536 Bailey Horn

 

The Surprising 4

.593 Zach Penrod

.631 Perales (promoted to AA, but on IL)

.642 Hunter Dobbins (AA)

.695 Hayden Mullins (A+)

 

The Far Away 3

.354 Ovis Portes (promoted to SAL)

.514 Juan Valera (FCL)

.668 Connelly Early (A+)

 

The More Highly Ranked 6

.611 Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz #16 (A-)

.771 David Sandlin #9 (A+)

.755 Wikelman Gonzalez #15 (AA and lost)

.809 Yordanny Monegro #20 (A+)

.685 Angel Bastardo #28 (AA)

.634 Ryan Zeferjahn #30 (AAA)

 

Not So Sure About 8

.534 Jonathan Brand (promoted to AA)

.551 Blake Wehunt (promoted to A+)

.572 Helcris Olivarez (AA)

.582 Danny Kirwin (A-)

.600 Jojo Ingrassia (A-)

.676 Matt Duffy (A-)

.682 Jedixson Paez (promoted to A+)

.717 I Coffey (AA)

 

The Meh 5

.731 Grant Gambrel

.744 Jason Alexander

(IL) #40 Bryan Mata

#46 Brandon Walter

.769 #47 Dalton Rogers

 

Edited June 12, 2024 by moonslav59

[mvp 78]

Jhostynxon has 5 HR's in 11 G's since being called up to GRE. He's been tearing the cover off the ball all season long.

[Hugh2]

Jhostynxon has 5 HR's in 11 G's since being called up to GRE. He's been tearing the cover off the ball all season long.

 

Isn't Greenville supposed to be the killer of all homeruns???

[mvp 78]

Isn't Greenville supposed to be the killer of all homeruns???

 

That’s Salem.

[mvp 78]

Drohan cleared waivers and is back with Red Sox.

[Larry Cook]

That’s Salem.

 

Is Salem still considered a terrible minor league facility???

[Larry Cook]

Drohan cleared waivers and is back with Red Sox.

 

Getting the 2020 draft band back together again???

[mvp 78]

Getting the 2020 draft band back together again???

 

Yorke - AAA

Blaze - AA

Wu Yellend - A+

Drohan - AAA inactive

[mvp 78]

Is Salem still considered a terrible minor league facility???

 

Oh yeah. That's in large part why they were flipped from High A to A a few seasons ago. Greenville is a much nicer facility. Salem is death for hitters and a bad facility overall from what I've heard.

 

Unfortunately, Sox sold the Salem Red Sox this offseason to Diamond Baseball Holdings. I'm not sure if they have control to move the team now or put pressure on them to make the facilities nicer.

[moonslav59]

Is Wink out of the doghouse, yet?

6IP, 3H, 1ER, 0BB, 8K

Woo wins 14-1 w no HRs and just 3 2Bs. (18 hits and 8 BBs)

Meidroth 1-3 w 3BB (.806)

Sogard 3-6

Yorke 2-5 w BB

Hickey 3-5 w BB

Lugo 0-6

Alvarez & Heineman 3 hits each

 

POR lost 8-6

Jordan 2-5 w HR (.797)

Teel 2-3 w BB

Campbell and Mayer 0-5

 

GRE won 8-5

Mullins 10K and o BB in 5IP (3H and 2 ER)

Coffey homered and walked 3 times

Bleis 1-4 w BB

 

SAL won 12-6

 

Seems like the whole system was hitting, tonight as the 2 DSL teams combined for 15 runs.

[mvp 78]

Cutter Coffey last 4 games:

8-16

2B

4 HR

7 RBI

3 BB

2 K

1868 OPS

[moonslav59]

Woo lost 8-3

Meidroth homered (.829)

Yorke 1-4 (1.106)

Lugo 3-4 (1.019)

 

POR lost 13-5

Mayer 3-5 w 2B (.849)

Campbell 2-4 w HR & BB (1.175)

Teel 1-4 (.862)

 

GRE wom 13-4

Monegro 8Ks and 0BB in 4.0

As reported, Coffey is going nutty. (Up to .812)

Bleis 2-4 w BB

 

[moonslav59]

The 2020 draft has gotten a lot of criticism, over the year, but without the Anthony pick at #79, the '22 draft was looking pretty sketchy. Not sure a few days makes much of a difference, but Cutter Coffey has exploded.

 

Romero has not done much to redeem himself, but has looked a little better.

 

Other, later picks have done well, but none look destined to rock MLB.

 

129. Meidroth

 

99. Dalton Rogers

 

159. Noah Dean

 

189. Alex Hoppe

 

Best hope from the later may be #369 Hayden Mullins

 

[Larry Cook]

The 2020 draft has gotten a lot of criticism, over the year, but without the Anthony pick at #79, the '22 draft was looking pretty sketchy. Not sure a few days makes much of a difference, but Cutter Coffey has exploded.

 

Romero has not done much to redeem himself, but has looked a little better.

 

Other, later picks have done well, but none look destined to rock MLB.

 

129. Meidroth

 

99. Dalton Rogers

 

159. Noah Dean

 

189. Alex Hoppe

 

Best hope from the later may be #369 Hayden Mullins

 

 

The 2023 draft has teel and Campbell tearing it up right now

[moonslav59]

We all know Youk was the Greek God of Walks, but does everyone know who the German God of Walks is?

 

His name starts with an "M" and ends in "roth."

 

Meidroth with 3BBs, tonight in the Woo win.

Kavadas went 2-4 w 4 rbi (2 x 2B)

Yorke 1-2 w 2 BB

 

POR lost.

Mayer 1-4 w BB

Teel 2-3 w 2BB

Campbell 1-5

 

How about Coffey? He hit another dinger!

JH Garcia did too while going 2-4.

Romero 2-5

 

SAL won 2-1 as Dean pitched well and Anderson homered.

[moonslav59]

Woo's offense has been on fire. 12-6 win, today.

Romy G 4-6

Yorke 3-6 w 2B

Kavadas 2-4 w 2B & BB

Hickey 0-3 w 3BB

Gaspar homered

Martin pitched a scoreless inning.

 

POR won 10-5 as Mata pitched 2 scoreless and Coffey pitched no hits for 3 IP.

3-5 Campbell w 2B

3-5 Jordan w HR

3-5 Teel w HR

1-5 Anthony w HR

2-5 Mayer

 

GRE scored 10, also, but lost 11-10

3-5 JH Garcia

 

SAL lost 2-0

Brannon 2-4

 

 

[Hugh2]

Woo's offense has been on fire. 12-6 win, today.

Romy G 4-6

Yorke 3-6 w 2B

Kavadas 2-4 w 2B & BB

Hickey 0-3 w 3BB

Gaspar homered

Martin pitched a scoreless inning.

 

POR won 10-5 as Mata pitched 2 scoreless and Coffey pitched no hits for 3 IP.

3-5 Campbell w 2B

3-5 Jordan w HR

3-5 Teel w HR

1-5 Anthony w HR

2-5 Mayer

 

GRE scored 10, also, but lost 11-10

3-5 JH Garcia

 

SAL lost 2-0

Brannon 2-4

 

 

 

It also helps that they play teams like 6 games in a row now, makes me wonder if the opposing team just had horrible pitching.

[mvp 78]

The 2020 draft has gotten a lot of criticism, over the year, but without the Anthony pick at #79, the '22 draft was looking pretty sketchy. Not sure a few days makes much of a difference, but Cutter Coffey has exploded.

 

Romero has not done much to redeem himself, but has looked a little better.

 

Other, later picks have done well, but none look destined to rock MLB.

 

129. Meidroth

 

99. Dalton Rogers

 

159. Noah Dean

 

189. Alex Hoppe

 

Best hope from the later may be #369 Hayden Mullins

 

 

Romero -23

Coffey -35

Anthony - 1

Rogers -47

Meidroth - 11

Dean - 595 OPS, 1.04 WHIP for Salem

Hoppe -41

Brand - recently promoted to POR, GRE: .448 OPS, 0.00 ERA, 0.94 WHIP

Brannon -39

Isaac Coffey - lots of love given to him last year by some posters

Mullins - 32

Ehrlicher -52

 

Seems like a solid draft to me. If Mikey can stay healthy, it really improves the outlook of the team and Cutter (HS bat) has been mashing lately.

[mvp 78]

The 2023 draft has teel and Campbell tearing it up right now

 

Early, Wehunt and every college pitcher not named Duffy and Weins pitched really well in Salem. Nelly Taylor's stats aren't popping off the page, but MiLB guys really like him.

 

Riemer has still yet to play an inning and Anderson needs a while to get his game going.

[moonslav59]

It also helps that they play teams like 6 games in a row now, makes me wonder if the opposing team just had horrible pitching.

 

That has to be part of it, but we've had a few hot players going on weeks and weeks long stretches.

 

I look at our farm, this way: of course nothing is a guarantee. We entered the season viewed as a top 6-12 farm in all of MLB. Some services openly said they dinged our ranking due to an unbalance between pitching and everyday players (more on that later.) Here is my breakdown:

 

The Big Three

Basically everybody had and still has our big 3 in their top 25-40. I don't think any have taken a step back, in terms of expectations, and to me, all have improved their standing.

 

The Second Tier

While Yorke took a dip in the last rankings, even he has shown a strong resurgence after being promoted to AAA. Maybe he moves back to top 12 in the system. Players like Bleis stayed healthy and even in the standings, but we have seen some big jumps by Campbell, Cespedes, Lugo, Zanetello, and I suspect JH Garcia to join this group in the next rankings.

 

The Pitching

Slaten just graduated, but to me, he still counts on the 2024 farm list. He easily met expectations and then some. The injury to Perales may blow up all the gains he made, this season, but nonetheless, he looked great. Fitts has moved up to #7 and Sandlin #9. Both still have big questions about being solid ML pitchers, but they do have skills. The drop to the next tier is pretty wide. There is no sugar coating our lack of bonafide pitching prospects, and I'm never a fan of striving for quantity over quality, but sometimes some longshots work out fine. We have seen a couple, this year, already. We do have many ranked pitchers from #15 to the low 30's:

15. Wikelman (trending down)

16. E Rod (should pass Wikelman in July)

20, Monegro (not doing well)

22. Penrod (27 y/o)

24. Dobbins (may move up some and is Rule 5)

25. Guerrero (Rule 5)

26. Early (maybe a sleeper)

28. Bastardo (Rule 5, this year)

29. Portes (probably the real sleeper)

30. Zeferjahn (been up and down)

31. Gambrell (probably out of the

32. Mullins (the third sleeper)

 

I think the farm took a step up, but I know I'm a homer on this.

[mvp 78]

@RedSoxPlayerDev

In only his 2nd week in Double-A, Kristian Campbell has been named the Eastern League Player of the Week!

[mvp 78]

After 7 HR's in his last 6 games, Cutter Coffey wins the South Atlantic player of the week.

 

I should hope so!

[Larry Cook]

Cespedes with another tater in Florida today

[moonslav59]

Top OPS on the Farm (130+ PAs)

 

1.023 M Lugo AA/AAA

1.013 Campbell A+/AA

.954 Kavadas AAA

.943 JH Garcia A-/A+

.929 Gasper AA/AAA

.898 Teel AA

.864 Anthony AA

.859 B Gonzalez A+

.855 Sogard AAA

.849 Mayer AA

.832 Meidroth AAA (.448 OBP)

.820 C Coffey A+

.801 Jordan AA

.800 Westbrook AAA

.800 Alavarez AAA

.782 Yorke AA/AAA

.724 Bleis A-/A+

 

50-129 PAs

1.063 Jo Garcia A-

1.009 Cespedes FCL (not counting today's game)

.887 Valdez AAA

.875 Ayubi FCL

.860 Dalbec AAA

.857 Arias FCL

.757 Romero FCL/A+

[moonslav59]

AA June OPS

1.416 Anthony

1.283 Binelas (the other prospect in the Renfroe trade)

1.123 Campbell

1.067 Lugo

.990 Teel

.985 Jordan

.892 Mayer

 

AAA

1.359 Gasper

1.153 Yorke

1.009 Meidroth

.877 Sogard

.818 Lugo

.806 Alvarez

.802 Kavadas

 

 

 

[mvp 78]

@SPChrisHatfield

Maybe the worst part of the Perales TJS: b/c he's on the 40-man roster, he's going to have burned 2 options by the time he's fully rehabbed (I'm assuming he's out for most of 2025). He has 2026 to get ready to contribute full time in 2027. 2 offseasons of a dead roster spot too.

[moonslav59]

Woo took it on the chin, tonight, losing 16-4.

 

Yorke went 0-5 and Lugo 0-4 w 3Ks

Meidroth was 1-4 with his usual BB.

Abreu 0-4 in rehab

Alvarez homered and Kavadas, Sogard and Gasper all had 2 hits.

 

POR won 12-11.

Campbell is just going absolutely nutty: 3-3 w a HR and BB & HBP

Teel & Mayer went 3-5

Jordan had a 3-run triple

Anthony 0-5

 

GRE lost 1-0 as Early pitched well 5IP of 1 hit/2BB no runs allowed ball..

C Coffey sucks: no HR and only 2-4

 

SAL won 2-1 as Rodriguez "Cruzed" through 5 (2H, 1 BB 0ER)

Brannon 3-4 (up to .819)

Anderson 2-4

 

FCL won 5-4

Arias 3-4 w BB

Cespy 1-5

[moonslav59]

POR got crushed 18-4 and Teel went 0-5 w 3 Ks.

Anthony homered and walked twice

Mayer 2-3 w 2B

Campbell 1-3 w BB

 

GRE lost 6-4

Coffey 2-4 w 2B

Garica 2-4